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Absolutely agree. I recently listened to.mcilvanney on Ali, and even as a boxing aficionado, he couldn't help but talk of the big guys illness and how it was just accepted as the illness, when in reality it was caused by repeated blows to the head.
Was on bbcradio Scotland, well worth a listen.
Yeah, last heard his condition was "fair" which doesn't sound great.
Will be a very sad day when The Greatest goes.
A deeply deeply flawed bloke in his time. I still have a framed pic of him on my wall at home. He helped the equality movement for racial equality in a powerful way. I was thinking about him just today (I rewtched When we were Kings last week). Well made, beautiful songs.
****er pull through. Fight. Fight. ****er FIGHT.
I hope he pulls through but thats for me, for him whatever is best. Maybe its time. My thoughts and prayers.
A deeply deeply flawed bloke in his time.
Did you mean to say he had integrity?
If it's his time, then it's his time.
His place in history is assured and as far as I am concerned, he was a major force for good.
Go well mohammed/cassius.
A deeply deeply flawed bloke in his time.
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He could give a hell of an interview.
The Greatest.
:*(
I think you'll find he's just passed away.
A Legend.
RIP ๐ฅ
^^
I agree with every word you said.
Don't forget how pretty he was.
^^ I was just reading the BBC piece on him and found another quote
Asked how he would like to be remembered, he once said: "As a man who never sold out his people. But if that's too much, then just a good boxer. I won't even mind if you don't mention how pretty I was."
RIP.
A man who stuck to his principles regardless of how tough it got.
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"I never met any Vietnamese ever called me a ****".
Inspirational human being. We need more like him.
RIP
Amazing man - yes.
Flawed - yes.
Comes across deeply unpleasant in this vid.
Muslims are more civilised than African savages ๐ Erm...nope.
Superb boxer, and a real sporting superstar.
In his early days, and particularly his glory days ... he was a seriously flawed person. Deeply rascist and sexist, and lots around him at that time could never forgive him for the hurt he inflicted on them and their family.
But as Ali wrote in one of his money books: "a man who thinks the same at 40, as he did at 20, has wasted the last 20 years of his life".
RIP Ali
Good boxer to watch and a bit of a hero as a child but as grew more aware if his political views I liked him less. The shame is he'll be remembered as a sporting icon when that sport cost him the last 30 years of his life.
Question: How many boxers did it take to switch a light on? Answer: Muhammad Ali.
RIP
His fights (and interviews with Parkinson) were part of my childhood. Magical.
Was lucky enough to shake his hand at a book signing in the early 90s and it was so sad to see him them.
[i]"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?"[/i]
RIP ๐
When Ali was 12 yrs old his bike was stolen.Someone directed the young Ali to the local policeman who at the time was in the local boxing club.....
Trying to judge the behaviour of a young brash black man who had grown up in deep South of the US in the 40's and 50's by today's standards is purile. It was a different time then and he was a product of that era.
A wonderful man and a true superstar. RIP.
I'm not a boxing fan.
I am however a massive Ali fan.
He used to come to Abingdon where the manager of his fanclub lived. He got the job by simply getting in touch with Ali early on in his career and asking if he could start a fan club.
I have a photo somewhere of Ali in Abingdon with Mr T as his driver.
Top bloke according to everyone I know who met him.
Trying to judge the behaviour of a young brash black man who had grown up in deep South of the US in the 40's and 50's by today's standards is purile.
Actually it isn't imo, he was right to stand up to the white man. This was the white man who forced black women to give up their bus seats to them, this was the white man who banned black children from their schools, this was the white who lynched and left the bodies of innocent black men hanging from trees.
When Ali first became champ enforced racial segregation was still perfectly legal in the United States.
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Nice edit DrJ. ๐
The New York Times website is worth a visit today, watch 'what's my name' for starters.
RIP The Greatest
Strange, but over last week, I was watching the Sly Stone v Ali interviews on youtube and crying with laughter as Ali got frustrated and angry with a drugged up Stone who kept interrupting him.
Now I'll watch my old boxing tapes.
So many great memories throughout my life of this fantastic athlete and great man.
True hero.
R.I.P. Champ.
RIP ๐
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Nice edit DrJ.
The world will never know, well me anyway.
@hora I never knew those stories. As you say we need to see people in the whole and overall he was still an extra-ordinary man
I'll edit my post now as he's passed away and I don't want to speak ill. Do abit of background reading around Frazier and Zaire.
I didn't know that the punching meat in a abattoir and running up and down stairs used in Rocky the movie was based on Frazier who did this!



