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You are talking about observing something other than sublimation Mike… both happen. You’re right that it’s the suspended condensing vapour you see though, in both cases.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:05 pm
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Damn… that means, in full pedantry mode, that none of us have actually seen water vapour coming off of ice… only observed the effects of it.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:20 pm
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My brane hurts.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:36 pm
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in less densely populated places like Australia (and presumably US and Canada) people refer to distances in travel time

In my anecdotal experience the US definitely does, often to the exclusion of even knowing the actual distance. I've had this conversation more than once:

"How far is it to town?"
"About an hour."
"But how far is it?"
"About. An. Hour."
"Yes, but what's the actual distance?"
*looks at me like I'm a crazy person*


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:39 pm
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UK TV news does the same now. Car culture.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:44 pm
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in less densely populated places like Australia (and presumably US and Canada) people refer to distances in travel time

Surely most of us do that? There's a reason Google Maps shows the quickest route first, not the shortest.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:51 pm
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A kilo isn’t ‘about the same as a litre,’ it’s exactly a litre

needs the purity of the water to be specified if you're being exact.

/nitpick


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:54 pm
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I was told at school that water vapour is visible.
Steam is a gas and isn't.
However I went to an Imperial school - but never got to be a Stormtrooper.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 6:06 pm
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Are we comparing to the original kilo, litre etc?

/nitpickier


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 6:07 pm
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If you go to a tool shop in the most metric country there is & ask for a 19mm socket, I bet it still has a 1/2" drive.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 6:31 pm
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I was told at school that water vapour is visible.

So was I. But it never goes well when you tell other people that. I’ve had to accept since that ‘water vapour’ is the invisible (in small quantities at low density) gaseous water, rather than a mix of gas and condensing droplets. Where as steam is a visible vapour (made visible by the droplets suspended in it). Our teachers confused us. Even if there were right and the rest of the world is wrong. Still find it hard to shake of their teaching though… to me a vapour and a gas are clearly defined… but “common usage” has warped their meaning when referring to water.


 
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The most ironic fact I ever learned about Metric and Imperial is that the bastion of inches and ounces that is the US of A defines the inch and pounds and ounces etc by metric equivalents.

The US were early adopters of metric and decimal - Dollars and Cents for instance rather than our slightly bonkers Pounds / Shillings and Pence and the extra weird Guinea (base 21 - nice)

They didn't proudly uphold Imperial measurements - they tried to implement metric and cocked it up. In the UK we set a date and said from that point on for given transactions they must be done in metric. In the US they did the same thing but instead of 'must' it was 'should'.

If you were a shop keeper you were told you 'should' change your weights and measures - that might mean printing up new signage. If you went to that expense and your competitor didn't then you felt you were at a disadvantage. So nobody did. Within a few years of course everyone has reprinted their signage so it was all moot, But by then the moment had passed.

They also didn't have Max Bygraves


 
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At 61 my secondary school years were 1970-1977 and I'm pretty sure we were taught using metric/SI units. I grew up on a farm and sometime around the late 1960s remember there being conversion tables for acres to hectares and the like since the government subsidies were moving to metric. I honestly can't remember the last time I heard a farmer talk about the weight of an animal in anything but Kg.

I'm ambi-system about most things so bigger distances will go: 100m, 200m, 400m, half a mile, a kilometre, one mile, two kilometres, etc. I'll just choose the closest convenient measure.

EXCEPT - temperature. Fahrenheit is just a bodge of a system and I really can't get my head around it or why anyone would want to use it.

I listen to a US cycling podcast and they are 50/50 between imperial and metric and will usually convert one to the other as well. Their race analysis videos also have speeds displayed in mph and kmh. Obviously World Tour road cycling is European centric so races, speeds and the like are metric so using it makes sense in that regard.

@Cougar - a lot of places "measure distance" by time, makes a lot of sense when the roads are less than ideal and actual speed on the ground is highly variable.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 9:47 pm
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I can't wait. FASL will offer more precision than MASL so my coffee will taste even better!


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 10:09 pm
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Water vapour can be below 0C if it's mixed in with other gasses like air, it's to do with partial vapour pressure.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/380551/why-doesnt-the-moisture-freeze-out-of-the-air-when-the-air-temperature-is-below

But air can be super-saturated with water vapour if there aren't any nucleation sites to attract condensation. Hence dew and frost.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 10:45 pm
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I (50 plus years and still handsome) work in metric for measurements except for long journeys where I use miles to avoid confusion with most other people in England.

My wife (a touch older and still gorgeous) uses imperial.

When working together we use the universal body part measurement. "Move it a fat thumb this way", "Stick your hand above your head and nail the wood there", "Take three baby steps and plant the tree facing the sun".

Thankfully we are not engineers and few things we do together are life critical.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 11:00 pm
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Ooooh Engineering "measurements"

1. A midges dick -approx 3 thou..
2. A nudge - approx 1/4 inch
3. A shove - approx an inch
4. Give it a nip - approx 5 ft/lbs
5. Dog it up - stop when it squeals

4 and 5 are not euphemisms


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 11:43 pm
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I just hope it applies to shocks, I've still got a few in the old sizes to sell which got randomly obsoleted by the change to metric


 
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