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The girls have taken to FA Wildcats. They’re moving to an Astroturf pitch next week, before the grass one becomes a recreation of no-man’s-land at Passchendaele.

Apparently they’re ok to play on this in football boots; is this right and do I need to change the studs? I used to play hockey on sand an artificial pitch and I’m sure there was a no studs rule…


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 10:39 pm
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Had similar last week, if boots are blades apparently its fine, studs a no-no tho


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 10:41 pm
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Thanks, can I change studs for flatter ones?


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 10:42 pm
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Depends on the surface. Not all AstroTurf is the same. Check with the pitch owner.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 10:43 pm
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I'm a hockey player. Blades on hockey astro's is a big non-no. However most football is played on '3G' type pitches where studs/blades are acceptable. There are some hybird pitches, which are rubbish for both sports, in that case hockey astro boots are 'better' but short studs are just about ok.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 10:46 pm
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Check with the venue.
I’ve played on pitches that banned training shoes and you had to wear proper studs.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 10:54 pm
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Usually moulded studs are ok, metal studs are no.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 11:03 pm
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We play footie on 3G and are asked to wear studs

No blades or flat sole allowed

Think it can damage the pitch but also heard blades can get stuck and cause injuries


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 11:04 pm
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Hard ground (moulded) studs are best for 3G.  Screw ins are a no no.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 11:21 pm
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Blades no - rips the surface.

Generally moulded studs are best.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 11:23 pm
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Depends on the surface. Absolutely everyone here wears blades on 3G.


 
Posted : 30/09/2020 11:27 pm
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I don't like any kind of stud on AstroTurf, moulded or other. The surface doesn't give way like grass in high impact situations and seems to lead to more injuries.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 12:10 am
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Our home ground used to be a 4G pitch, I'd either wear AG(artificial grass) boots or as has already been mentioned moulded boots, anything other than these and you'll likely suffer achilles pain and hip pain.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 4:16 am
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You can get rubber studs to convert the boots for use on astro turf/4g


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 11:37 am
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Really depends on the astro.

I assume you're talking about a 3g long turf astro?

If you can remove the studs then you have SG or soft ground boots. These aren't right for any type of astro. Just six studs is not good on firmer ground they have a harder sole plate for, well, soft ground! They don't spread the load and can be very uncomfortable,cause hot spots and the plastic plate doesn't give on the surface. You can get shorter rubber studs but this is akin to putting road tyres on a mountain bike. Sort of a solution but does not a road bike make...

For 3g (or 4g) then you need what were called mouldies, but now have the FG or firm ground tag.

They come in a few different flavours. Some have "blades" or what is a more aggressive stud pattern. These should be avoided for 3g as they get stuck in the surface and cause injuries, sometimes serious. Also can damage the surface.

What's needed for 3g is a FG boot with conical studs that taper off. If you get a whack on your standing leg then they should pop off the surface. Too much grip isn't always good.

If you're talking hockey then this is on a flat astro, either sand, water or hybrid. Any kind of studs or moulds on here are a no no as you can't purchase into the surface, will damage it and have no grip. They won't or shouldn't be allowed. You should have an astro specific sole on these.

You can also wear flat astro shoes on 3g and they work OK. Not as good as moulds to play but certainly don't damage the surface.

For youth football on grass or long turf astro then I would say use conical mouldies for everything except a mudbath, but then juniors shouldn't play on those days anyway.

Hope that helps!

(I'm a hockey coach and run an amateur football club)


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 5:36 pm
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I've been wearing hybrids for years now. They work well on everything from astroturf to sun baked scrub fields.

Current ones are nike bomba pro tf iirc


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 6:28 pm
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What Hugo said, although I actually wear the flat astro shoes on 3G out of preference (my preferred boot in the link below), but admittedly FG boots will double up for summer on grass too.

Blades and also the boots that go over the ankle have both been blamed for injuries by an acquaintance of mine who is physio at a Championship football club. Of course you will still see players costing £100m wearing them though.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 6:40 pm
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Hybrid football shoes are like hybrid bikes imo!


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 6:58 pm
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And the old style astro shoes are dreadful on 3G/4G!


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 7:33 pm
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I find astro shoes great, like the Adidas ones linked earlier. If you get the right ones they have plenty of tread and you shouldn't have issues slipping at all. So supposed astro shoes have very little tread and are probably designed more for sand based pitches.


 
Posted : 01/10/2020 8:15 pm