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and being admonished by the ref for being two rough in the clinch.
Granted
There is also a chasm though between someone sparing and trying to train you and someone in competition trying to beat you, part of which is by manipulating the ref.
It's a long way adrift i know but i doubt very much soccer players go down so hard/dramatic in training as on the pitch on match day and i fully expect if McGregor gives him an inch Mayweather will be taking a mile. (And i suspect he'll be under a whole bucket load of extra scrutiny given his background)
nice, sadly nothing like either of those available now!!
I dunno. Round betting isn't too bad.
dangeourbrain - MemberIt's a long way adrift i know but i doubt very much soccer players go down so hard/dramatic in training as on the pitch on match day and i fully expect if McGregor gives him an inch Mayweather will be taking a mile. (And i suspect he'll be under a whole bucket load of extra scrutiny given his background)
I take your point about gaming the ref but it's a big part of Mayweather's game to fight in the clinch, rough house in the clinch and punch out of the clinch when his opponents are expecting a separation. He uses it to frustrate and tire his opponents. The Pacquiao fight is an example of where Mayweather's opponent was the one trying to play the ref by dropping his arms and going limp in the clinch.
It's never 100% one way or the other but typically Floyd enjoys dominating the clinch.
I doubt Mcgregor will be too bothered by losing points ... but losing by disqualification is a different matter; because apparently if he fouls and gets disqualified he doesn`t get paid.
Floyd will be setting traps that he wouldnt even try on another top class boxer ... and Conor will get caught out by them and not even know why he keeps getting caught.
People who have never boxed do not see the traps and little tricks the top guys do, and so wrongly assume it just trading punches, and the biggest or hardest hitting guy wins.
People who have never boxed do not see the traps and little tricks the top guys do,
Very true
and so wrongly assume it just trading punches, and the biggest or hardest hitting guy wins.
I don't believe anyone who has ever even watched any combat sport thinks this, let alone someone who has participated at the level McGregor has.
If nothing else, Conor deserves credit for being able to present the air of confidence he does.
If he is actually buys his own he'll get dumped on his backside with the first minute.
(The same is true of Mayweather if he turns up for a walk of ccourse)
Jesus Christ on a bike, this post blew up didn't it!
Even though, thanks to all the experts, I now know exactly what's going to happen Sunday, I still can t wait to watch it.
I genuinely cannot see mcgregor doing what De la Hoya, Canelo, Pacman failed to do. Even a 100mph Ricky Hatton couldn't rough him up. There's just something about his self confidence that almost makes me think I'm a fool to doubt him ๐
Steve Bunce is such a donut.
Weight in happening now, Mayweather`s walk out music was phil collins :/
Mcgregor - 153lbs
Mayweather - 149.5lbs
just watched it. i had go for mc gregor
Conor probably a good 20lbs heavier than floyd tomorrow.
Looking forward to it
Ive got a few little bets on to make things interesting.
Now do I sleep early and wake up for it or stay up?
BoardinBob - MemberConor probably a good 20lbs heavier than floyd tomorrow.
I think the max he can fight at tomorrow is 168lbs.
Haven't seen a maximum weight mentioned in the build up. Would be amazed if Conor doesn't weigh more than 168 tomorrow
I've stuck money on Conor to win in round 1,2,3,4 or 5 and (or) Floyd to win on points
Mayweather`s walk out music was phil collins
Bizarrely popular amongst black and hip hop culture
I believe there's a maximum percentage of the fight weight he can weigh in at under the rule set.
Two thoroughly unpleasant individuals; McGregor is doing a great job of presenting himself as an ignorant, arrogant shit.
Mayweather should have stayed away from this but....maybe he needs the money.
If Mayweather hasn't lost too much of his skill he should punish McGregor just enough in every round to make it very painful and give him a legal working over and we will the see how much 'heart' McGregor has - stick it for 12 rounds of unrelenting punishment or throw in the towel?
TBH I don't care who does it... I just want to see Mayweather sparked out in the first round.
The more ignominious and anticlimtic... the better.
I want it to be so embarrassinghe can never show his **** face in public again.
I'll be happy to see either knocked out.
Not sure why other boxers/mmartists dont cotton on to the fact that being a **** gets ppvs. Kevin Lee slightly trying, Rockhold would be brilliant at it!
I can't imagine Mcgregor ever weighing 168 I bumped into him in Lakeside, he's tiny!
rankconway - MemberIf Mayweather hasn't lost too much of his skill he should punish McGregor just enough in every round to make it very painful and give him a legal working over and we will the see how much 'heart' McGregor has - stick it for 12 rounds of unrelenting punishment or throw in the towel?
Much as we saw when Tony Bellew turned his back to quit against Adonis Stevenson ... all pre-fight big talk, especially by the most vocal, is very often more about a person trying to convince themselves more than their opponent, and once they start catching a few hurtful shots all their insecurities come back to them.
The weight isnt an issue - not long ago it was common for top guys to move up divisions once they dominated their own division. If Mcgregor could actually box, and knew how to best use the weight advantage it may have cause for concern - but he doesnt ... itll be 2 punch combos falling short from him.
Mayweather will TKO him in the 5th.
McG will KO him in the 4th. ๐
Conor seems pretty cool when I've seen vids of him interacting with fans on a one to one level so it's obvious he's acting the dildo because he thinks it will get under mayweathers skin like it did aldo,but lets face it,ufc fighters first line of defence when trading punches is their face,he is in a different universe now,his only chance is be the Wildman and hope something lands,he will gas as usual and quit.
... lets face it,ufc fighters first line of defence when trading punches is their face...
Like. ๐
pondo - Member
... lets face it,ufc fighters first line of defence when trading punches is their face...
Like.
Excessive head movement or bobbing and weaving will get you kicked in the head. Four ounce gloves don't allow you to create the same protective shell that boxing gloves do, and if you did you'd be leaving yourself open to a liver kick or a takedown.
But yeah, they block punches with their face. Some deep insight there ๐
But yeah, they block punches with their face. Some deep insight there
To be fair, Justin Gaethje does just that ๐
Conor talks shit to hype the fight but he comes across as a good guy normally
Mayweather on the other hand is an absolute scumbag by all accounts
The big weight advantage may sound like it evens things up, but canelo weighed around 170 against mayweather in their fight, and it didn't help him in any way. And canelo is a pfp boxer who is as young as mcgregor and will punch just as hard with far better combinations and accuracy.
McGregor has two hopes, either mayweather has not taken this seriously, or he's completely shot since retirement. Either are possible which is why it's not a total foregone conclusion..
If mcgregor wins he'll proclaim himself the king of boxing. Hopefully he'll back it up with a fight against the winner of ggg vs canelo. That would be an absolute massacre.
Jamie - Member
But yeah, they block punches with their face. Some deep insight thereTo be fair, Justin Gaethje does just that
Yeah and Gaethje has said he doesn't care about getting brain damage so..... ๐
Yeah and Gaethje has said he doesn't care about getting brain damage so.....
That'll be the brain damage talking.
Anyone and everyone thinking that this is anything other than a multi-million making pantomime is deluded. The whole thing is carefully considered and choreographed.
It'll last to round 5 or 6, in order to provide some kind of satisfactory show for the crowd, at which point Mayweathers contractual domincance will see Greg KO'd.
If I'm wrong, pedigree will destroy Greg in the first round.
Who's Greg?
Boxing has a proud recent history of producing shit fights wherever the hand of expectation weighes heavy. Not expecting a lot of choreography tonight.
[i]Anyone and everyone thinking that this is anything other than a multi-million making pantomime is deluded. [/i]
Agreed!
This will go down in history along with Ali v Antonio Inoki and Tyson v Shawn Michaels (I had to look those up).
...but will probably still be more entertaining than Mayweather v Pacquiao.
I'll wait til they show it free next week. Cleverly v Jack is an interesting fight.
pondo - Member
Boxing has a proud recent history of producing shit fights wherever the hand of expectation weighes heavy. Not expecting a lot of choreography tonight
No doubt there has been some damp squibs but away from the superfights there have been some absolute crackers recently, and even then some of the recent big fights have been good (josh vs wlad for example)
If you havent seen him, go and watch Lomachenko's pro fights. Its like something from the matrix.
All this talk of boxing being dead is nonsense.
Lomachenko
GGG
Crawford
Canelo
Spence Jr
Thurman
Rigondeaux
Mikey Garcia
Joshua
Roman Gonzalez
Etc
All a joy to watch
If anyones up, the Cotto fight on box nation is great. Cotto looking brilliant in his last ever fight against a man mountain that keeps coming forward
how long did that take to choreograph?
1. Allow Conor to appear to outbox Mayweather for rounds (but Floyd doesn't have to take any big punches ... just jabs).
2. Make it look like Mayweather has forgotten how to box or throw a combination.
3. TKO him when you think the crowd have enjoyed it.
Well there's the TKO
Allow Conor to appear to outbox Mayweather for rounds
Were you watching the same fight?
Being offensive while landing absolutely nothing despite scoring you points for being offensive isn't outboxing someone.
It was simply a case of letting him tire and finding his gaps.
Mayweather was just getting started when the call came. Did anyone else catch the ferousious upper cut that wasn't far off landing on McGregor's chin in the round before. Don't care how good your chin is- if that connected it would have been good night vienna.
McGregor never even got close to looking like he was troubling Mayweather.

