[Closed] Mayweather Vs McGregor

Been looking at some of McGreggors recent Insta pics, he certainly looks like a boxer now. He's worked incredibly hard.

Although I am not sure some big hitters could take that amount of time of arguing on the internet.

Never heard of mum's net? (Actually don't think they'd survive).

I'll go for Mayweather, rather than a hiatus though I'll wager you a beer* Jamie as i think timing means I'll be having one anyhow.

I have no follow through, so will probably have forgotten all about it by the weekend.

Hope conor does it my money's on him anyway

Add me to Team Floyd FTW - despicable person but just cannot see McGregor landing anything to make a difference. Floyd's like Neo, he can damn-near slip a bulley. 🙂

Sure I read that AJ is open to the idea of fighting someone from MMA on a no submissions basis. That'd be more interesting. 🙂

We know what the verdicts going to be, but if McGregor puts him on his arse the boxing world will be turned upside down. Come on lad!

I couldn't bet against McGregor, it would be unpatriotic and a betrayal of the martial arts 🙂

I had money on him as soon as the betting lines came up on William Hill. I don't believe that he will actually win, a boring decision loss or late tko seems more likely but I can visualize several ways that he can engage Floyd.

Not sure I'll take a week off posting. As someone else pointed out Mayweather is a "certainty" so it's not a fair bet.

I propose a wager. If Conor wins, then all those saying he has no chance are banned from STW for a week (midnight Sunday 27th till midnight Sunday 3rd), and if Floyd wins, then all those backing McGregor take a little holiday.

How can I say told you so if you are not here?

Mcgregor actually looking ok in videos I've seen. Hes clearly not a bad boxer im the grand scheme of things

If this was against someone for the british title I'd think he'd have a chance, but he wouldn't be the favourite

Now look at it the other way.. the current british Light Middle champ is a chap named Liam wiliams as I recall. Would anyone honestly give him a prayer if he fought Mayweather.

As with any sport , its all about levels. Showing you can compete against a complete non punching washed up ex fringe word class fighter in sparring bears absolutly no relation whatsoever to taking on what is IMO one of the top ten PFP fighters of all time, and certainly in the top 3 of the past 25 years.

People seem to think that his unorthodox style is going to cause Mayweather problems. If unorthodox styles meant you could beat top boxers we'd have had many more unorthodox world champs..and mcgregor is no Prince nas after all.

this is what usually happens to unorthodox boxers..:-)

this is what usually happens to unorthodox boxers..:-)

Good mullet though 🙂

and definetly unorthodox right up to not knowing how to punch

Brilliant. 🙂

Edit - to TPBiker's vid, not checked Jamie's yet.

I think surprising Mayweather with some totally weird attack is McGregor's only possible chance to win.

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Used to love that film. 🙂

Mayweather must be happy with McGregors promo skills. Of course he nicked them from Floyd anyway!

Just caught up on the All Access stuff. They're pitching it as Conor training his arse off and Floyd messing around with family stuff and not really training or taking it seriously 😆

Presumably just to balance it out and make it feasible that Connor isn't going to get beaten very quickly.

I'd say in 99 out 100 versions of fight Floyd would win. I suspect how quickly depends on if he wants to keep boxing's reputation vaguely intact (ie win quickly) or wants to string it out for money/possible 'rematch' potential.

this is what usually happens to unorthodox boxers..:-)

Quite an interesting back story about that bloke.

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As much as I'd like to see Conor win - I just can't ever imagine him winning. So it's Floyd FTW

Every scenario is an easy win for Floyd.
1. If decides to make a statement; he can easily get a 1st rnd TKO.
2. If wants to humiliate Conor; he can hit him from pillar to post ... and get the TKO mid rounds.
3. If he wants a rematch he allows Conor to last till late rounds by doing very little.

I go with option 2

There was a bit in the Mayweather v Alvarez fight where Canelo had been swinging at empty air for the 300th time in a row, and he just paused, visibly sighed then tried for the 301st time in vain.

Find the recent Berto interview where he talks about how hard it is to touch Floyd.

He's the master at not taking risks. He's not going to do an Aldo and sprint from the opening bell.

I can see Conor trying a Maidana type approach. Up close, overhand rights, trying to rough him up. By the 3rd round Floyd takes over and scores his way to a wide UD.

I reckon it'll go eight rounds . . . McGregor will KO Mayweather. There's gonna be punches raining in from places that Mayweather doesn't know exist - watch out for that vicious backhand.

McGregor is hungry for it, whereas it's just a cash-cow for Mayweather.

watch out for that vicious backhand.

and the subsequent disqualification.

BoardinBob - Member

I can see Conor trying a Maidana type approach. Up close, overhand rights, trying to rough him up. By the 3rd round Floyd takes over and scores his way to a wide UD.

I think by round three we'll be lucky if there's been a punch thrown in anger, a lengthy feeling out process would seem more likely with Floyd trying to get an idea of McGregor's speed and his reactions to feints and Conor trying to do the same to Floyd.

Ultimate surrender.

- watch out for that vicious backhand.

Pretty sure that's a DQ

Beaten to it. Must read/watch video quicker

and the subsequent disqualification.

My heart sank a little when I learned spinning back fists where not allowed.

Spinning is fine though if that helps Jamie

Quite an interesting back story about that bloke.

reckon it'll go eight rounds . . . McGregor will KO Mayweather. There's gonna be punches raining in from places that Mayweather doesn't know exist - watch out for that vicious backhand.

Conor can't throw anything more than a 2 punch combo ... he simply does not have the boxing skills to pressure Mayweather as Maidana did.
Right - left ... then he needs to re-set/position himself.

Big surprise here will be seeing the effect the non-punching feather fisted Mayweather has on McGregor... it will look like he being hit by Mike Tyson

The stance McGregor takes will give him no leaverage for throwing punches.

Am I being cynical in thinking it is all a big con?

Some sound technical advice for McGregor courtesy of Malignaggi 😆

Pigface

Am I being cynical in thinking it is all a big con?

Depends on how you define con, but yes you are being cynical.

Not a con, it's entrainment in theory not an actual contest. I'm just not of the impression it'll actually be entertaining - regardless of it being one sided or not, Mayweather would have to not be Mayweather for it to be entertaining.

dangeourbrain - Member

regardless of it being one sided or not, Mayweather would have to not be Mayweather for it to be entertaining.

I think (or certainly hope) that McGregor will bring enough of his style and mannerisms to keep it entertaining up to a point. I fully expect hands behind his back, creeping across the ring like a spider monkey and epic, epic amounts of shit talking.

Also he'll neutralize Floyd in the clinch, if not dump him on his ass so that incredibly frustrating aspect of Floyds game may not be so bad.

I reckon k.o for Floyd. Watch the Hatton fight and see how energetic Hatton was. Floyd just soaked it up for a while without using too much energy then picked him apart.

I expect McGregor to be fitter than when fighting Diaz but in the first fight Diaz landed a decent shot and Mcgregor looked knackered instantly. I see this happening again.

Big mma fan and boxing fan but not a CM fan really. Mayweather has earned his place at the top of boxing CM not so much. For me its a shame this fight is happening I'd have loved to have seen CM versus Khabib or Tony Fergouson, he could have cleared out the division! (or not) As it is he hasn't defended either of his titles once.

Also he'll neutralize Floyd in the clinch, if not dump him on his ass so that incredibly frustrating aspect of Floyds game may not be so

I'm not so sure, I'll be honest, if i were Mayweather I'd be staying well away from that, one thing McGregor definitely has plenty of experience of is grappling and i don't think I'd be keen to see how effective he is that close, especially given Floyd has no need to hug him. Just stand and out box him.

Equally though I'm not sure how well McGregor will do in a cinch, it's a damn fine line between a hug or a wrestle and dq, and one thing that's nearly impossible to do in the time frame he's had is train your self not to do things which you've spent a long time making reflex.

(And actually that's a huge problem for McGregor, he's not just fighting the best boxer of his generation, he's fighting himself and years of MMA training too)

one thing that's nearly impossible to do in the time frame he's had is train your self not to do this which you've spent a long time making reflex.

This, really think CM will find it hard to suppress years of training and not do something outside the rules of boxing. Especially when tired after a few rounds/punches.

dangeourbrain - Member

I'm not so sure, I'll be honest, if i were Mayweather I'd be staying well away from that, one thing McGregor definitely has plenty of experience of is grappling and i don't think I'd be keen to see how effective he is that close, especially given Floyd has no need to hug him.

It's a pretty key component of Floyd's game. He favours the clinch a lot either to neutralize opponents or to stall, or punch out of it. A lot of boxers instantly stop working, wait for the ref once the clinch is initiated. If he does clinch with McGregor it'll be fascinating to see what happens.

Equally though I'm not sure how well McGregor will do in a cinch, it's a damn fine line between a hug or a wrestle and dq, and one thing that's nearly impossible to do in the time frame he's had is train your self not to do this which you've spent a long time making reflex.

Which is why he's been working with Joe Cortez. Not that he needs to train himself out of habits as you describe, almost the opposite is true. He won't reflexively shoot a double on Floyd, they'll be exploring hip, knee and foot placements.

LeeW

This, really think CM will find it hard to suppress years of training and not do something outside the rules of boxing. Especially when tired after a few rounds/punches.

No. It's easy. Straight boxing is something Conor will have been doing as at part of his training for over ten years. Same with straight jiu jitsu. MMA athletes cross over and back into other combat sports all the time and what you are describing almost never happens.

If he did do something like that it would be a conscious decision.

MMA athletes cross over and back into other combat sports all the time and what you are describing almost never happens.

Train in them I'm sure but that's in no way the same as a pro fight with a pro ref, the rules might be the same but the application even from first to second teir is definitely not. (And we're not talking a "sneaky knee" or anything, were talking a bit too much of a grab etc. For a (poor) analogy, I'd get away with binding in a scrum very very differently at my local club than if i were playing for the England team)

I had money on him as soon as the betting lines came up on William Hill.

dangeourbrain

Train in them I'm sure but that's in no way the same as a pro fight with a pro ref, the rules might be the same but the application even from first to second teir is definitely not.

Sorry but that's nonsense. Not only do they cross train, they compete. The most obvious ones are grappling and brazilian jiujitsu tournaments where no striking is allowed. It's completely normal to see elite mma fighters compete in grappling matches like ADCC, EBI, IBJJF etc. They compete in judo, they compete in kickboxing and muay thai and of course boxing. Both amateur and professional and what you are describing virtually never happens.

I've had plenty of grappling matches with professional mma fighters and retired ones and at no point did they forget what they were doing and start raining down elbows from the guard.

[i]If[/i] Mayweather did something egregious, like bite McGregor or headbutt him repeatedly, he might respond in kind by launching his head into the front row like a football, but no.

zilog6128

just out of interest, what odds did you get?

I have him at 50/1 in the first and 40/1 in the 4th iirc.

just out of interest, what odds did you get? I'd be tempted to have a little tickle now, only the potential return not really worth it! (Although still probably unusually long odds for a boxing match!)

I got 5-1 outright on June 21st with SkyBet.

I've had plenty of grappling matches with professional mma fighters and retired ones and at no point did they forget what they were doing and start raining down elbows from the guard.

Hence the sneaky knee comment, it's not about being a long way outside, it's about how tightly the rules are enforced. Whilst I'll take your point to some extent, he's not normally competing at this level in this sport. I'm not suggesting he's going to deliberately smack Floyd in the nethers, I'm am suggesting that the rules are deliberately constrictive, and there are plenty of people in all sports, who fall foul (sorry for the pun) when progressing through different levels a sport they do do, let alone jumping in at the deep end.

I have him at 50/1 in the first and 40/1 in the 4th iirc.

I got 5-1 outright on June 21st with SkyBet.

dangeourbrain - Member

Hence the sneaky knee comment, it's not about being a long way outside, it's about how tightly the rules are enforced. Whilst I'll take your point to some extent, he's not normally competing at this level in this sport. I'm not suggesting he's going to deliberately smack Floyd in the nethers, I'm am suggesting that the rules are deliberately constrictive, and there are plenty of people in all sports, who fall foul (sorry for the pun) when progressing through different levels a sport they do do, let alone jumping in at the deep end.

There's a chasm of difference between him forgetting what he's doing and resorting to "an mma move" and being admonished by the ref for being too rough in the clinch.

Apparently he had two points taken off him in the spar with Malignaggi for being too rough. The reason McGregor's camp chose Cortez was because he's notoriously tight on the rules and doesn't tolerate excessive clinch work. You can read plenty into that if you want.