Just listening to reports of arrests [i]before[/i] the game tonight...darts and golf balls being confiscated. Come on, Scousers have managed a peaceful hatred between the red and blue sides, North Londoners have managed it with Spurs and Arsenal. What's wrong with Mancunians that they can't just co-exist in a neighbourly fashion? Do we need a two nation solution for you lot?
One side don't like the idea of the other getting better and becoming a threat?
I agree - it's all a bit childish
Football is tribal and some of the fans are thick nobb3rs who want to fight.
Man City have been provocative - welcome to manchester for Tevez - which is their right- Man U with the banner commemorating how long since City won anything .... other equally emotive types have responded.
Thanks God the players have retained an air of dignified silence and not fueled the flames 🙄
This has little or nothing to do with the actual game of soccer. Sadly, the game has been appropriated by the sort of scum who just want a fight over anything and are using the tribalism of soccer as a vent for this.
It's only a game. It's not like it's life or death or anything.
Just a shame that all us non-interesteds (in football) have to suffer for it, to pay some of the cost of policing, insurance etc and then be subjected to having it rammed down our throats on the TV and news etc,
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They're all wa****s!
I'm from manchester btw and my in laws are all major city fans 😉
Soccer cfh, thought that word was the preserve of the colonials? Or are you being provocative as well?
First time I've heard of the coppers having to warn the managers before a fame. Shocking!
Quite enjoyable from the outside. Another opportunity for Neville to simulate bottom sex in front of the away fans perhaps? Still, it's certainly livened up the CC.
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Football, as we all know, is [i]Rugby[/i] football. Even Aussie rules or American football. Anything else is just soccer.
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I thought the clubs paid for the cost of policing, no?
Darcy, the clubs pay for policing in and around the immediate vicinity of the grounds. The public purse picks up the tab of policing/cleaning all transport links, and all areas away from the ground.
Or "association" football, where is where "soccer" came from. Tut tut flashy! And you forgot that mild mannered sport, Gaelic Football - according to Tommy Tiernan, a cross between rugby and the IRA 😯
EDIT: Fair point on the policing. Wasn't aware where the boundary between club and public expenditure was. So Mancunians have to pay for the city to be trashed this evening? 😆
Actually it's Association Football.
And for inter club rivalry, nothing in the UK comes to Celtic and Rangers.
Celtic and Rangers are in the UK are they not? Though sometimes it seems like a game of football between the INLA and the UVF.
Aye those scotch football fans are mentalists. They'll even start a fight about music. Someone pretended to play a flute once (note pretended - didn't ACTUALLY do it) and it all kicked off. If it had been a deep-fried flute I'm sure it would have been ok.
Celtic and Rangers are in the UK are they not?
Yes they are. I was limiting my comments to UK based clubs as I have no knowledge of inter club rivalries in other countries.
Fair enough gonefishin 🙂
Unfortunately it ain't just Footie that attracts the kn** heads. Stoke city centre (Hanley in old money) had to suffer a wave of scum bags, sorry "protestors" last Saturday for a lovely EDL march/rally/fight. It was lovely. 600 extra police on duty, at the cost of the good people of Stoke, coppers injured, town deserted and shops shut early so lots of income lost to help pay for the policing. It was lovely.
And who knows what they were/are protesting about and why Stoke (or any other town) has to put up with this cr*p? Supposedly passed off as every citizens right of freedom of speech, which I am a wholesale supporter of. In reality it was just a good excuse for a load of yobs to invade a city centre and fight with the Police.
Nice.
What's wrong with Mancunians that they can't just co-exist in a neighbourly fashion? Do we need a two nation solution for you lot?
I am from Manchester originally (well Stockport, but close enough) and I think this is the main reason why I hate Football and anything associated with it. Stupid game, boring to watch and it brings with it too many morons (and yeah especially in Manchester, I once saw a city fan getting thrown through the plate glass window of a pub by united fans, into the high street in the city centre on derby day).
Football has got to be the dullest sport. Sorry. You can go 1.5hours with no result. Just a draw.
Sorry. I just don't see the attraction, unless its looking at men sweating and showing their legs. I reckon half the football hooligans are closets' anyway.
It's only a game. It's not like it's life or death or anything.
You would think it was if you went to Glasgow on an Old Firm Match day.
Only 20 posts till hora brought it down to homosexuality 😀
I used to steward at all sorts of places while at uni - mainly Stamford Bridge though and the worst fans to have to steward by a long way were the Man Utd fans. Absolutely awful.
Blame Tevez - he was out to prove a footballer [i]can[/i] be worth £25million.
His claim to fame being he's an Ugly Betty lookalike ... only uglier.
Its been blown out of proportion imo, there were relatively few arrests at the last one, and no real trouble apart from two flares being lit. Its almost as if the media would like it to kick off, much like when the munich anniversary fell on derby day.
Like how scousers are being held up as an example though, only reason they don't hate everton so much is they're too busy hating man utd. These are the fans who dropped plastic cups of faeces and urine into the stand of utd fans below a few seasons back..
It's only a game. It's not like it's life or death or anything.Just a shame that all us non-interesteds (in football) have to suffer for it, to pay some of the cost of policing, insurance etc and then be subjected to having it rammed down our throats on the TV and news etc,
+1 to that.
hobby footballists are just as bad. I dont want to take my 2 year old son onto the field on a Saturday to hear 11 idiots screaming, shouting and swearing at each other for the whole time. Seems like a team game played by 11 idividuals who like to blame each other half the time, and who like o shout at the opposition/ ref the rest of the time. Not a good example to set IMO
have to disagree with the " 1.5H without a result" comment though. After all, a nice, civilised (ok used to be) game of test cricket can be a draw after five days...and still be fantastic!
Football has got to be the dullest sport. Sorry. You can go 1.5hours with no result. Just a draw.
How many days can a cricket game go on for & produce a draw?
Like how scousers are being held up as an example though
I think many Everton fans would also call themselves "scousers" would they not?
I think the tevez case illustrates how fickle fans are
My mate, who's a city fan, used to chant at him when he played for us
You'll never shag a decent bird, Tevez! Tevez!
You'll never shag a decent bird, Tevez! Tevez!
You argie tw*t
You ugly c**t
They've sewn your head on back to front
Carlos Tevez - Herman Munster-head!!!
And thought it was hilarious. Now they think he's a god!
On the other hand we thought he was great last season, but i dread to think the vitriol that awaits him at Old Trafford tonight
How many days can a cricket game go on for & produce a draw?
I could have gone onto County level. My Dad made me play from a very young age, at club and in the nets most evenings. Hated it with a passion. I'd honestly rather try gay sex than play Cricket again.
What annoys me most about football is the fans causing trouble and fighting.
Notice how they fight in 'gangs' and need drink to give them courage to fight in the safety of a group?
Says it all to me.
Sorry if it sounds venomous. I just think its abit pathetic how a group of adults can worship and idolise a business/company that is owned by someone else.
North Londoners have managed it
Oh really? [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8221451.stm ]West Ham v Millwall[/url] last year.
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Surely only one set of supporters are from Manchester anyway, everyone knows Utd fans are all cockneys 😉
It'll be a storm in a teacup night anyway. The media will be there in droves hoping for some pushing. As soon as theres a jeer from a queue 10 cameras will be there with 'and there are scenes of angry violence from outside the ground'.
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Loving the irony of a Liverpool fan starting a thread about ill behaviour, especialy concerning games against Man Utd.
I'm guessing you don't know where Millwall or West Ham are, elliptic.
Are there any Roadies in the Oxfordshire area, me and the baggy wearing crew down here are looking for a ruck with some lycra wearing ponces! So what if we both like bikes, we're way better than you and I think some good honest fisty cuffs will sort this out!
I'm guessing you don't know where Millwall or West Ham are, elliptic.
They're in London, and north of the river.
Your point is...?
you callin my bike a puff 👿
The Southern Yeti - MemberAre there any Roadies in the Oxfordshire area, me and the baggy wearing crew down here are looking for a ruck with some lycra wearing ponces! So what if we both like bikes, we're way better than you and I think some good honest fisty cuffs will sort this out!
Me and the other Hamo fans are going looking for some Alonso fans to smash up.
Of course, in the tradition of football we will fight if there are odds of 10-1. If there are more of their fans we shall of course RUN.
Hora - You press that Button one more time.... I dare you!
Binners- you cant go to the match tonight. The media would be allover you saying
'christ and here is an injured Scouse fan caught up in the trouble'
They're in London, and north of the river.Your point is...?
That you don't know where North London is.
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Loving the irony of a Liverpool fan starting a thread about ill behaviour, especialy concerning games against Man Utd.
That's not really reasonable tm is it? My interest is more to do with how two sets of rival fans are struggling to contain their rivalry and just keep it to banter. I didn't really want to make an issue about what team anyone's supporting. Obviously you feel the need to - your call, but what is the problem up there?
I had Millwall and West Ham down as kind of East London teams, no? Anyway, it was Millwall involved, and we all know they're a bit mad anyway. Though, IIRC, it was West Ham that bore the brunt of the punishment wasn't it - strange that.
Well okay, East End sides rather than North London per se. But they're definitely not from Manchester, which I believe was your main point 😉
That you don't know where North London is.
I went out for two years with a girl who lived three minutes walk from the Highbury & Islington tube station, so I do have a rough idea of the geography... but ta for asking.
Well okay, East End sides rather than North London per se. But they're definitely not from Manchester, which I believe was your main point
Wasn't my point at all, but the point was that North London could manage to avoid this sort of aggro, despite a fairly fierce rivalry (I grew up somewhere where most people supported one or other of the big North London sides, but far enough away that there seemed to be no particularly logical reason to pick one over the other). You finding a contradictory example in some other part of London didn't really disprove the point that Arsenal and Spurs fans don't go round trying to kill each other (though you could get a thump for supporting the wrong one as a kid), any more than Bury and Bolton fans having a drink together after a match would prove anything about how well Utd and City get along.
football is tribal and tribal rivalries always have a violent element to them. Its a worldwide issue and will never go away.
Personally as long as the people fighting each other want to be there then I don't see what the problem is.
football is tribal and tribal rivalries always have a violent element to them.
So go on. What about other team sports?
Historically has football always been violent or in the last 20 or so years did it attract the depths of society? It became a beacon for the homophobic and racist?
The sort of scum who fight arent really football fans though. Its a place to go and fight other like-minded types. If they were really into football surely they'd want to watch a game and worry about being banned from watching their favourite team?
Just been down to walk the dog. Its all good natured. Some singing about 8-2 or something back in the 70's (or 80's?). Obviously later on when the beers flowed it might not be.
Darts? to throw at the other supporters during the match?
Another reason why I'd never go to a footy match.
(Unless I had box tickets!)
[i]Darts? to throw at the other supporters during the match?[/i]
better than human faeces I suppose. Manchester football fans obviously are of a higher class than Liverpool fans.
[i]Personally as long as the people fighting each other want to be there then I don't see what the problem is. [/i]
the people who are there but don't want to be fighting?
WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Get that up you, you blue bastards!!!!!!
Hats off to Old Trafford for playing 'Always Look on the bright side of life' at the end. Genius!!!!
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funny that 🙂
And the Man of the Match is... [b]Roovez[/b]!
Usually I hear alot of sirens after a Man U match- I cant remember many (any) last night.
Sounded like a cracking game alright.