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I do get tired of all this talk of "the united way", it was made up by Fergie because he didn't like the attention the arsenal undefeatables got, and as pointed out recently by Keane, was one of many bits of fergie bullshit that never got questioned by the media.
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Jesus, all betting must be suspended on Chelsea FTW - citeh should've slaughtered united but instead scraped it, ref's eyesight notwithstanding
We'll see if Chelski have their traditional mid season lurch if so we'll see how they perform under pressure.
As for todays game it's 3 points in the bag and should have been more. The ref was diabolical moaned about for giving a peno last week then not giving one of 3 clear penos today with the one on Kun right in front of him. Then the one one Yaya that would have seen Utd down to 9 men.
Got a bit nervy towards the end but no where near as bad as the SKY pro Utd commentary would have suggested.
How the mighty have fallen!!
Indeed but all things come to pass. the only question is if we are rebuilding and going fwd or going backwards.
Time will tell.
THM - I'm starting from a low base - last season. So I'm taking not getting absolutely slaughtered two weeks running as pretty positive. Remember what City have done to us last few seasons? The 6 - 1 for example.
We've put in two pretty respectable performances. I thought Rooney was prime for getting sent off when we went down to ten. I thought he'd get so frustrated he'd probably launch Aguaro into row Z
Our aim this season is top four. We were never going to be challenging for the title. I'm perversely quite enjoying our underdog status for the last couple of games. But chelski couldn't beat us, and city managed a 1nil against ten men
I'm sure you'll excuse me for feeling pretty positive about that. Everything's relative 😉
I'm starting from a low base
so are city, they aren't playing that well at the moment.
Apart from maybe Chelsea all the top teams look like they could do with strengthening at the back.
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Binners, yes I understand. I have no allegiance to any football side but admire Man U and don't like to see how bad things have gone. Other than the input this has on the role of a manager and the extent to which this is under or overstated.
I was teasing about Rooney. He has matured a lot (or got slower) so the old red card, rash tackles seem a thing of the past. Early 2H I thought MU were on for a battering a bit like the Ba Bas in the (better) other sport yesterday. But credit to both that they fought back.
Southampton are doing well, but they have yet to play city, arsenal, united, everton and chelsea in the league. Clyne though is one of the best defenders not at a champions league club.
I had Southampton down as relegation fodder this year. Shows how much I know. The table doesn't lie. And they deserve to be where they are. They've looked outstanding! To galvanise a new squad into playing like that is pretty bloody impressive! LVG doesn't seem to be doing so bad so far either IMHO, on that front
Makes a mockery of Brendan Rodgers and his frankly laughable 'we're a club in transition/the dog ate my homework sir' nonsense. 😉
Whilst this is true (december's going to be a toughy with the cup game included):
-we've already beaten two of the top 6 away from home
-as repeatedly demonstrated by Arsenal, you can be tonked by all of the big teams and still qualify for the CL if you in turn tonk all the smaller fish
-the Big teams aren't tonking as readily as usual this season
Agreed, since Clyne's learned not to fall over when a ball's played over his head he's looked excellent! i presume it's just the england U21s debacle that's stopping him getting a senior cap (plus that we haven't played arsenal, chelsea, city or a couple of mid-table teams yet)
Apart from maybe Chelsea all the top teams look like they could do with strengthening at the back.
Fantasy Football suggest Saints bucks that trend...
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He has matured a lot (or got slower) so the old red card, rash tackles seem a thing of the past
He has just come back , first game, from a 3 match ban for a rash challenge/hatchet job
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Southampton have been superb every one of their defenders except the one we bought and the one Liverpool bought....perhaps they dont travel well 😉
Interesting to see where they end up though
junky, the one you bought makes rooney look slim - that's something, surely ?
Binners is the diet consultant for Man U ...what could possibly go wrong
So now ManU are level on points on WBA & Newcastle - is that really good enough?
As one of the European greats there really shouldn't be a transition, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Celtic have all been continually successful through regime changes Fergie was always going to be a tough act to follow but they always knew he was going to retire at some point, so not to have had a strategy in place seems to be very short sighted by who ever is in charge...
NO MR savage it is not but the defence - injuries- has been a mess this season
Give them time and then decide.
I think van gal comment that there is not much difference between us and the best is a reasonable comment
Its a 38 game season
I think van gal comment that there is not much difference between us and the best is a reasonable comment
Only 13 points difference after 10 games...
in the last two games we played against them.
Given you said what savage had said I assumed you had read the BBC website
Sorry if it was unclear and my assumption was not true
We are most unlikely to challenge Chelsea
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30128792 ]oops new[/url] signing need in midfield and defense [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30099482 ]or not![/url]
[s]So that's Man U into the top four...[/s]
5 mins left yet.......
See - as soon as I typed it.....
whoops, I can't read
Well this could get embarrassing fast
We have now reached full Arsenlol.
The goal in the 95th minute was just the icing on the cake.
So that's Man U into the top four...
How I feel about Arsenal....
I feel about Arsenal, the same way Fellaini felt about Wilsheres headbutt attempt:
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I had a chance to go today, but things didn't quite work out.
Bullet. Dodged.
Thank god we've got the best shot stopper in the premiership! No question about man of the match!
We weren't great. To say the least. I feared the worst when I saw the formation he was playing. Because it's worked so well every other time he's played 3 at the back. Didn't turn out a bed game plan. Soak it up and hit them on the counter. But that's how we've won premierships. Grinding out wins when you're playing gash! Top 4 might be realistic. The title certainly isn't. But the arse must be more worried than us tonight though. That should have been wrapped up first half. 😀
And Wiltshire should have been off. The dick! That's the kind of nonsense you'd expect from Rooney years back! He'd have been in serious trouble if he was actually tall enough to reach sideshow bob
Wiltshire
Who? 🙁
The little-man-complex gobshite who should have been off for an early bath. 😉
U Wot M8? 😀
What is the usual punishment for wiping your nose on an opponent's shirt ?
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[url= http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/04/manchester-united-arjen-robben-mats-hummels-dani-alves ]Looks like they're set for another mahoosive spending splurge[/url]
[i]The Dutchman is targeting Roma’s Kevin Strootman, who would cost around £30m, Borussia Dortmund’s Mats Hummels who may be priced up to £35m, Atlético Madrid’s Diego Godín – in the region of £25m – Barcelona’s Dani Alves, for around £15m, and may potentially move for Arjen Robben, with the Bayern Munich winger costing no less than £40m. If United decide against taking Radamel Falcao permanently from Monaco – it would cost £43.5m to take up the club’s option – then Van Gaal would also be in the market for a striker.[/i]
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TBH they need to be careful about disrupting a team which appears to be starting to gel a bit.
Yes I saw that, £100m. IMO it's not nearly enough these days to re-build a squad to compete at the top level, also with no CL football a lot of players won't come for anything other than ridiculous money. So if Manu U don't finish in the top 4 their budget will go even less far. Bale cost £90m (?), as has been shown at Spurs one £90m player is worth more than 4 guys at £25m
ManU are one of the most entertaining teams in the premiership, nearly as good value as Tottenham.
Keep doing what you are doing and don't change a thing.
Kind regards
A Chelsea Fan.
Now now MrSmith - I did nearly choke as Jose spoke how Spurs didn't deserve to lose 3-0 after playing most of the football and controlling the game for long periods 🙁
3rd, playing badly, with lots of injuries.
Looking forward to them getting those wheels back on.
Still only a point above West Ham.
Still only a point above West Ham
Didn't realise some clubs weren't allowed to be considered decent enough to be measured alongside. Must mean Liverpool, Arsenal etc are really in a bad way.
Where's that wheel polish?
Just going back to the first post on this thread ..
[i]the thing I find funny is that United have shorter odds of winning the title than liverpool[/i]
Just goes to show what we all know anyway. The bookies usually know what they're talking about. I've got a tenner on with a scouser in the office, from the start of the season, that normal service will be resumed, and we'll finish more than 12 points above them. That's looking pretty safe right now 🙂
Wa hey!
Played well considering the injury list!
Liverpool hammered them last year but good to see Utd come through!
Let the thread rise once more...
Shaping up to be an interesting afternoon at OT. 🙂
Great assist by De Gea
Not the expected top defensive display, eh?
EDIT: Jaysus. When that one scores against you, you know something's not quite right in the set-up.
Big man at the back post
Thanks Moyes
offside, by a hair
kompany could have been off for that one but more an orange card than red or yellow.
Lot of city players booked so far wonder what the odds are in a red card?
Tomorrow cannot come quickly enough now
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that one was off side but who cares
Noisy neighbours shushed [ finally]
Oh that does Mata !!
Glad MU are winning but have to smile at Gary Neville comments on the Fellaini elbow and Matas offside. Through red tinted glasses!!!
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[quote=teamhurtmore said]Through red tinted glasses!!!
Happens on internet fora too 😉
RED REVENGE
That's been coming all season. Will be interesting to see if the owners start operating the usual revolving door policy.
ATP 😀
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not sure sacking the manager helps City tbh ....though it has helped us...finally
Carrick returns home tonight and emptys his pockets ,car keys ,wallet, Yaya Toure
Old Louis was a bit bitter yesterday.
It's only goals that matter, but we were the best team with the best performce ever.* Err, does that make sense?
* broad summary
Sadly Mourinho is quite good at planning a game and his players are good at making it work. He was quite content to let Man U have most of the ball but restricted them to few chances.
Boring to watch but I suspect he won't care too much.
Still not sure why Di Maria or Falcao were signed? Maybe had van Gaal had started the season with Mata, Carrick with Rooney up front as well as a system the players could understand things might have been different.
@binners my £10 bet with you (and JY) not finishing in the top 4 isn't looking so daft so far is it ?
Binners, how do I send you your winnings.
JY, You corrected me to say your bet was honorary, if you disagree you can drop me an email.
If you could nip into Greggs and get gift vouchers, that'd be great thanks.
Also got to collect on a bet with a Scouse mate who foolishly thought they'd be above us and top 4. I said they'd be nowhere near the top 4 and at least 15 points behind Chelski (though everyone else ended up being so as well)
Still not sure why Di Maria or Falcao were signed?
They both have good track records, Falcao has done surprisingly bad happens sometimes. Di Maria is a good individual player but has always been a bad decision maker with the ball.
If you could nip into Greggs and get gift vouchers, that'd be great thanks.
Today I have learnt that Gregg's do gift cards and e-vouchers 😯
e-voucher is easiest, is that acceptable ?
Hernandez returning to united. I could see him getting around 20 goals a season for teams like Southampton or Swansea, but always being a sub for the very top teams.
Falcao has done surprisingly bad happens sometimes.
Apparently Chelsea are interested in Falcao, which no doubt means he will sign for them and rip every other team in the premier league apart next season.
JY, You corrected me to say your bet was honorary, if you disagree you can drop me an email.
No it was just mates banter in my world rather than a genuine bet
Fair play for being honest enough to bring it up though [ I had forgotten tbh] but I consider it settled .
I think we did it because others were more crap rather than because we were good though.
Falcao looks dire - I cannot see that anyone would want him tbh unless it was very cheap.
Di maria looked world class for a few games
Both the biggest flops this season in the entire league [ though pool come close but their players were at least cheaper]
Falcao is a terrific striker, not sure why it didn't work out for him, but it happens sometimes.
Falcao was a super striker
Think Owen before his knee injury etc
perhaps some confidence will change him but he was poor and i cannot see how any team would be willing to pay £40 million and his wages based on what they say at Man u
Still not convinced Van Gaal will bring any success to Old T.
He doesn't appear to know his best formation or line up...but he has done well elsewhere so I suppose he'll get another season at least.
Alex Neil on the other hand.....!
Will David De Gea stay?
If Van Gaal finishes 3rd or 4th in 15/16 will he stay?
Frankenstein and Hora, no to both.
I would be surprised if De Gea stays to be honest. You don't say no to Real Madrid (if the interest is genuine) and he could be their number 1 for ten years.
He is an Atletcio Madrid man
That is like Rooney signing for Liverpool
I am not saying it wont happen but he does not support them or even like them hence the delay
If he was from anywhere else in Spain I would be certain he would go but I am not sure he can bring himself to play for Real as we can be certain they want him and he has said nothing yet.
Time will tell and its balanced at the minute but I think he will probably leave.
LvG will do two seasons whatever the results
The team need to play better next season and get in the top 4 rather than win things...they just need to look more like they could win things.