[Closed] Losing around 6kg in 3 weeks, feasible? Tips & tricks invited 🙂

Atkins'll do it.

picolax

Amputate something?

(more seriously - good luck dude)

Psychle are you this forum's biggest daydreamer?

eat and drink a lot less. It sounds really obviuous.

Mumps? Lost a stone and a half in five days and only gained half a stone since then!!

A friend is going to go to British Military Fitness and that's meant to be good. Mrs has done something similar with a special diet.

i could tell you but i don't believe you'd do it

set me the challenge then guv... I shall be your guinea pig if you wish... won't have much else to do for the next 3 weeks except exercise and waste time on here, so may as well try the exercise bit first! Plus I have total control over my diet as well, so really could structure the next 3 weeks pretty regimentally if I had a plan...

EDIT: of course, if it involves amputation or dysentery, then that might not be a goer... 😆

Wow idave has a magic solution.

It's like my bank balance, more goes out than goes in.

Furious masturbation. Passes the time when the missus is away, enabled by free access to the web, burns off calories through vigorous exercise, takes your mind off food.

true dat

Its too much to be sensible. 1-2 lb a week is recommended - the faster you lose it the easier it is to regain and crash dieting puts your body into famine mode

The only answer to losing weight is eat less and move more

It's the new iCharlieMungus exercise regime

I reckon I'll stay away from the weights entirely (my muscle mass is fine, 'tis the layer of blubber on top that's the problem!), focus purely on cardio/fat burning zone work on machines (bike mainly) for 2 x 1hr sessions each day and set up a 2000 calorie meal plan (any suggestions? I'm guessing no starches, low fat, high protein, fresh veggies, lots of water), hows this all sounding?

Furious masturbation. Passes the time when the missus is away, enabled by free access to the web, burns off calories through vigorous exercise, takes your mind off food.

I shall incorporate this into my plan...

6kg in 3 weeks

That's Numberwang

Psychle please tell us you are joking?

not really... 6kg was just a number I plucked, but the general aim would be to lose a noticeable amount of weight in 3 weeks... no real idea what's feasible/achievable tbh, hence why I'm posting to the good folk of STW 😆

[i]thinking an hour in the gym each morning and evening[/i]

Running is the most efficient use of energy, and even then you're only burning about 100Kcal a mile. (actually for you it's a bit more, but not much) Going to Gym ain't gonna do squat. Sorry

Eat less. one meal a day and nothing else and shit loads of water, and get the running miles in.

It was the numbers I was referring to

how many calories would an hour on a stationary bike burn, say at around a 130bpm heart rate?

Running is the most efficient use of energy, and even then you're only burning about 100Kcal a mile. (actually for you it's a bit more, but not much) Going to Gym ain't gonna do squat. Sorry

Will do a bit of running, but a bit too heavy at the moment, it'll hurt my knees unfortunately...

prob around 500

'bout 550-600 maybe, bit more if your larger...

edit must be faster with the calculator... 😀

OK then... so what sort of basal metabolic rate would I have... stocky, fairly muscular chap, but with a thick coating of blubber... 172cm tall, currently 96kg (so obese according to a BMI chart!)... would probably say I'm no more than 10% fit compared to what I was a few years back, though fitness comes back to me quite quickly when I get back into some sort of training...

How do you work out your minimum required calorie intake?

Just don't eat and drink loads and ride a bike a lot. lots. Typing stuff on the internet won't make you less fat you know?

172cm tall ??

never seen those used together before

2000 kcals for you sonny jim

May I suggest a vial of dysentery.

Just don't eat and drink loads and ride a bike a lot. lots. Typing stuff on the internet won't make you less fat you know?

indeed it won't... I should be out walking/jogging right now 😆

anyhoo... off to bed now, feel free to deride me in my absence... nighty night chaps 🙂

It's not rocket science psychle, don't over complicate it. Just have, say half of what you eat now, and get out and do as much running and cycling as you can. (although it's the lack of food that'll do the most work).

No white carbs, don't drink calories. no dairy, no sugar. Loads of veg.

There you go

And pies, pies are really good for you. low calorie health food. Fill up on them, they make you feel full without adding any calories

And pies, pies are really good for you. low calorie health food. Fill up on them, they make you feel full without adding any calories

So masturbate furiously and eat lots of pies... check... shall let you know how I do in 3 weeks time 😆

Good! The first consultation is free.

Hi,
Told this story on the forum before here goes again.

Last October weight 143.5kg- weight on the 25th of June pre my Kilimanjaro trek 100kg dead.

Lost 15lbs in week one , extreme diet and gym/bike five times a week and 550calories per day.No fat and no carbs.

Anything is possible so do not hold back .i lost ten yaers of my life to being hugely overweight. Off to climb Aconcagua in Feb 2011.

Gave myself a new lease of life.

PS took two weeks off at Xmas and a week off in Feb to go to Rome.

Good luck fella.

I did this

http://www.flattyresmtbroutes.com/ABigRideForLittleLives.html

Didn't loose a single gramme during the ride, but in the two weeks after 5kg dropped off with little only a little exercise didn't do anything the week after and only a couple of rides in the second week as I was taking it easy and reducing my eating back down to pre Big Ride levels.

Running or swimming here. **** knows it hurts, but it does the trick.

Tip: Run. When it starts to hurt, run some more. Then swim front crawl for a mile at a time.

I've lost lbs doing it this way and bizarrely my cycling legs have gotten better.

if your wife's away, you'll be reduced to eating pizza in your pants in front of the tv, internet porn and drinking way too much beer. Women keep us alive.

Eat more porridge and do more exercise.

andrew's liver salts.

Liposuction or listen to iDave. Don't just reduce what you eat, change what you eat. But I doubt you'll lose 6kg in 3 weeks.

Good luck and post some before and after photos for us to [s]laugh at[/s] see the difference.

As a guide I've been losing around 500-750g per week with only changing my diet and 3-4 hour [s]masturbation[/s] riding sessions.

If you are not in reasonable running shape I wouldnt bother. The above is right that is the most effective way to lose weight but you will likely end up sore and injured after a couple of hard sessions meaning you are limited to what you can thereafter.
Do whatever hard aerobic exercise you can do that wont injure your joints or leave you with muscle soreness and eat less and better.

Lick a dog poo - reckon you should lose at least the contents of your stomach a few times over

I managed to lose a stone and a half in 10 days once, dysentary it was, piece of cake. Problem with losing that much weight so quickly is that you also lose muscle mass, my legs were like sticks and I was very weak.

Assuming you are actually overweight for your height and build....

Losing more than 2lbs a week is pretty hard. That is a 7,500 calorie deficit you need to create each week. Given that your weekly calorie intake is about 14,000 to 17,500 that means halving the amount you eat. You need to do this while maintaining enough activity to ensure you don't digest a high percentage of your muscle tissue instead. This sort of crash dieting is a bit of a phenomenon of our minimum time commitment quick fix culture and actually is very counterproductive.

Investing the time in researching and developing a balanced diet plan and a life routine/style that enables you to provide it and stick to it would be a better way forward to a sustainable new lower weight. A crash diet will only lead to putting the weight back on again in the near future. Loosing 0.25-0.5 lb a week is more realistic and sustainable.

I'd also say that if you are consistently overeating and geting overweight then perhaps you need to consider why. Weight gain is not a natural human thing - we don't just get fatter as we get older. It is often a response to something - typically overeating, and indeed over drinking, are a psychological defence against work pressure or some other source of underlying unhappy compromise or unhappiness.

You might just be a lazy git however 🙂

You might just be a lazy git however 🙂

Indeed I am... but willing to change, if I can 🙂

OK then... lets do this thing!

going to do a weigh in today and take a before shot, shall take a new one each day and put it together as a timelapse (if I can figure out how to do it easily!), hopefully will see some noticeable improvement by the end... 6kg is just a random number, what I'm really looking for is a fairly noticeable redection in body fat, less chubby cheeks and spare tyre would be nice 🙂

Foodwise, what am I best eating each day? I'm obviously going to feel hungry, but what things should I be eating to help combat this? Not looking to starve myself here, just a good balanced healthy diet that will help/encourage the fat burning...

I can send you a foodstuffs guide and monitoring spreadsheet that worked for me if you like?

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[i]I'm obviously going to feel hungry, but what things should I be eating to help combat this?[/i]

Get used to being hungry, it's not going to kill you. (never fails to amaze me how overweight westerners react when you tell them they can't eat 3 squares plus snacks every day and still loose weight)

[i]Not looking to starve myself here[/i]

Really? how else d'you think your going to loose a significant amount of weight in such a short time frame?

[i]just a good balanced healthy diet that will help/encourage the fat burning... [/i]

there's no such thing as a 'fat burning diet'. Look it's ALL about the numbers OK? the 200-300Kcal a day that you can actually control (most of the 2500Kcal your body uses goes into maintain stuff like brain activity and organ control-in other words stuff you can't influence)- it essentially doesn't really matter what you eat. If you had 500Kcal of doughnuts or 900Kcal of veg a day, you'd loose more weight eating the doughnuts. Diets are pretty much unhealthy anyway but for a short time it's Ok, so stop worrying about it.

LMAO at bigrich comment!

Then I cried a little as I realised it was all true.

psychle - try this:

[url] http://www.hundredpushups.com/ [/url]

I'm about to start...

I just removed 4.1kgs of leag weight correctors from my boat - holding it in one hand I now realise that 6kgs is a LOT of weight to lose 😯

zed, why do you think that doing push-ups is the answer?

for me or for phycle?

For me, I'm not massively overweight but I want to get fitter. The one hundred push ups is a challenge and it'll burn some fat for sure. Combined with that I've also stopped drinking (just sort of happened, wasn't planned), eat less rubbish, eat less in general and walk a lot more.

For phycle - why not? It's something he can do at home and it costs nothing - no equipment needed etc. Plus it will tone him up too, make him feel better about himself, he'll be stronger etc etc etc (same goes for me)

I don't think it's [i]the[/i] answer - just thought it may help?...

@OP just eat healthy and avoid fatty food, eat protein and probably no more than 2000kcal a day 30g fat and just do 2 long rides and one super fast short ride.

You'll drop the weight until your body adapts-after 6kg eat healthy/normally again and just ride longer and faster.

Soup and intervals.

Psychle, I'll send you a plan that will work, if you post up everyday what you did and what progress you're making?

Psychle, I'll send you a plan that will work, if you post up everyday what you did and what progress you're making?

You're on iDave... have started today already, just back from 2hrs in the gym (an hour spinning away on the bike at around 130bpm, then 500m jogging intervals for 3km, then into the pool for around 30 minutes of light/cruisy laps), feeling pretty good... now to resist eating myself silly this evening 😆 97kg on the scales before the workout 🙁

You sound like a fat bastard - I'd have thought it would be entirely feasible 😉

I'm tempted to post my initial 'before' pic that I took today... though a full frontal shot of me standing against a white wall in my jocks might shock and horrify! I think I'll wait till the end of the 3 weeks for dramatic effect 😉

iDave, i'm in too if you don't mind too much. Been reading your diet plan the last few days and was going shopping for that tomorrow anyway. I've gained about 18kg in the last 2yrs and want rid! My weight stabilised around 100kg about 9 months ago. Since then it doesn't seem to vary at all.
My diet isn't particularly bad, I just eat too much and at the wrong time.
My appetite is my worst enemy, I seem to be almost continuously hungry. My job is pretty physical most days but all anaerobic.

I've tried maximuscle promax diet shakes this week as meal replacements for lunch. Seems to work well as I don't feel hungry untill tea time and lost about 1.5kg

I'm no expert have no qualifications, but this is what I'd do...

It's not just about how much you do in a day but frequency too...

Weekdays

Pre work - go for a swim (if not possible go for a run 2-3 miles)
Lunch - gym - alternate high intensity spinning classes and bodypump style clases.
Afterwork - low intensity cardio. If in the gym use as wide a variety of machines as possible. If your legs can handle it and you haven't done a weights based classed try and fit in some compound exercises like squats.

Saturday - go for a massive bike ride 4+ hours.
Sunday - rest with a gentle hours swim.

Concentrate on protein for your calorie intake.

Howdy iDave, happy to be your guinea pig if you're up for it... drop me an email if you get a chance, times a-wasting! 🙂

Step 1: give up any meat or beer for a month, no exceptions (Bill Clinton lost 23lbs this way in time for his daughter's wedding).

Step 2: instead eat this routine every day, monk style - it's about 1300 - 1600 calories per day, if you're cycling for 40 minutes daily you need 2900. On this deficit you'll lose a stone in a month, more than.

BREAKFAST: porridge and sugar/maple syrup

LUNCH: one apple, one banana, a lot of broccoli and/or carrots (boiled), and half a large frying pan sized omelette.

Said omelette contains:
- 2-4 eggs (how hungry are you?)
- one large potato or two small ones (sweet potatoes are tastier)
- 30g cheese, melted on top under a grill after you've mostly cooked the omelette
- 80g red kidney beans
- 1 and a quarter onion, chopped and fried, or 1 onion and some spring onion, depending

DINNER:
- repeat lunch.

Also an entire loaf of carrot cake/banana bread with 6oz flour and 6oz sugar is permitted each week (about 1300 cals), and you'll still lose most of a stone in a month.

That is actually quite a lot of food, three large meals a day, and not very many calories although it does get repetitive. Begin by having 2 eggs, 30g cheese, and one small potato in the omelette - then ramp this up a bit once you've lost the weight you need. Then, throw in a $hitload of white meat and fish, and even more broccoli, from about February time and bang you have a race-ready XC physique for next season.

Cheers for that JHW, appreciated. Sounds like a good plan, only hassle is that at work I don't have access to cooking facilities, so omelettes and the like are out (unless I pre-cook in the morning and eat it cold, something like a frittata or quiche I guess?).

Here's what I've been up to so far... all exercise has been with a target HR of around 135-140, so moderate intensity...

[b]Sunday[/b]
breakfast - 1.5 cups of Fruit & Fibre cereal + 1 cup 2% milk
lunch - large sushi pack from Tesco (500cal according to the pack)

Gym (evening session, pre-dinner) - 1.5hrs or so - 40 minutes on the bike, 2.1km running (500m run @ 11km/hr, 200m walk at 6km/hr), a few light reps of free weights, then into the 25m pool for some laps (not many, 20 x 25m at an easy pace, more a warm down than anything else). According to the Polar HR watch this all burnt around 750kcal, though I know this isn't that accurate. Weighed in at the start, 96.8kg... at the end, 96.2kg, so drank a pint of water!

dinner - 3 high quality 100% pork sausages (quite low fat according to the packet) + a big bunch of salad with lemon dressing.

[b]Monday[/b]
breakfast - 1.5 cups of Fruit & Fibre cereal + 1 cup 2% milk
lunch - pile of salad (spinach, lettuce, beetroot, tomatoes) with vinagrette and olive oil dressing + 200gm chicken breast. Apple.

Gym (evening session, pre-dinner) - pretty much the same as Sunday night, though a bit more swimming (25 x 25m at a slightly higher pace). Weighed in at start, 96.2kg, weighed in at end, 96kg (drank more water during the session!). Again, according to the HR moniter, this was around 700kcal burnt.

dinner - the other 3 snags eaten cold after the evening gym session (after I got home at 10pm!)

[b]Tuesday[/b]
first breakfast (before gym) - Muller corner yoghurt (230kcal) and a shot of espresso.

Gym (morning) - 40 min on the stationary bike, approx 23km apparently... then 30 x 25 laps in the pool, around 550kcal burnt. weigh in at the start 95.2kg, at the end, 94.8kg...

second breakfast (after gym) - 1.5 cups of Fruit & Fibre cereal + 1 cup light soy milk (all that was at work!). Big cup of coffee, 1 sugar and some 2% milk.

Soooo... from 96.8kg on Sunday afternoon to 95.2kg Tuesday morning, 1.6kg variation... a fair bit is going to be water loss I suppose, but some is going to be actual fat loss yes?

Feeling pretty good at the moment, a little stiff but will work on stretching more, don't feel [i]that[/i] hungry, maybe a little light-headed, but it is a big increase in my activity levels in just a few short days! So far so good, I reckon I'll be able to keep this up for the next 19 days till my wife gets home, I reckon there'll be a noticable difference in my appearance/physique by then 🙂

intestinal worms?

eat what you like the weight will drop off

Make sure you drink at least a full 2 litre bottle of water each day.
Plus 500ml for each hour of sweating in the gym?
And seriously... try and do more than 1 bout of exercise a day.... it has been proven to further increase metabolism.

Oh and chew gum all day everyday to further increase your resting metabolism.

If you hit the gym/bike hard you'll just gain a bit of weight in 3 weeks. It's not enough time for your body to adjust.

At least, that's what happens for me. If I change exercise radically then my weight goes up for a few weeks (not entirely sure why) but then starts to come down after that if I keep it up.

I reckon dietary change is going to have more impact, especially if you are a right fat loafer to begin with.

2nd breakfast? What's that all about?

On an average day I eat -

B'fast - small bowl of cereal/ semi milk

Lunch - Banana, Apple, Yoghurt, Cereal Bar

Tea (I'm common) - Pasta/ veg and fish/ rice dish + Yoghurt

Black Coffee/ Chai tea throughout the day

An average day will include either 2 hr road ride or 4 - 8 mile run. May have a cereal bar or some toast after exercise and try not to eat after 8pm.

I weigh between 75kg and 80 kg at 6'3" depending on whether I've had a flash meal and or some booze.

Get used to being hungry, it won't kill you to be a bit peckish for an hour or so and stop eating so much!

Here endeth the lesson ...

Good luck fella, I should be joining you.. 😉

Will point the wifey towards this when I get home (she's runs a Sports Science / Physiology / Biomedicine etc degree course).

[i]Fruit & Fibre cereal Muller corner yoghurt pork sausages (quite low fat according to the packet)[/i]

I do know she'll say drop these though (too much sugar / salt / fat / sh!t) in favour of aforementioned porridge (maple syrup if you need it) Bio Youghurt (i.e. Yeo Valley) and non-processed meat (chicken, fish - i.e tuna steak would be a good alternative to sausages)

Looking forward to reading progress (not so sure about the pics!) 🙂

Monkeenuts isn't eating enough. Don't listen to him.

So far so good, I reckon I'll be able to keep this up for the next 19 days till my wife gets home, I reckon there'll be a noticable difference in my appearance/physique by then

Most importantly of all, make changes that'll be sustainable long term, plan to change the way you eat for good not just for the next 19 days..

As we all know it's easier to put on than take off. We don't want you coming back here after Chrimbo weighing 110kg!

And seriously... try and do more than 1 bout of exercise a day.... it has been proven to further increase metabolism.

Will be doing a morning and evening session from now on, plus maybe a midday spin if I can extend my lunch to an hour...

Make sure you drink at least a full 2 litre bottle of water each day.

working on 4-5 pint glasses a day 🙂

Most importantly of all, make changes that'll be sustainable long term, plan to change the way you eat for good not just for the next 19 days..

That's the plan mate, this is a super-kick start program, been meaning to do it for ages, having the wife away has just given me the impetus... I could either sit at home and watch TV, post on STW and eat shit food; or get out to the gym and on the bike as much as possible and make a change that I've been putting off for ages! Used to be a pretty fit triathlete, time to get back into it 8)

Currently munching on a handful of strawberrys and rasberrys with some low-fat vanilla yoghurt (whereas last week it would've been an almond croissant most likely!....) nom nom nom 🙂

Oh and like Molgrips says... you may gain weight, so..

Take a full set of measurements..

Calf
Thigh
Hips
Waist
Chest
Neck
Upper arm

You can measure your success in inches not just kg! I'm sure it's the inches that your Mrs will appreciate! 😯

Oh and like Molgrips says... you may gain weight, so..

Take a full set of measurements..

Wait till you see my super dooper 3 week time-lapse photo animation... that should hopefully show any improvements 🙂

Re your query in relation to cooking facilities at work - yep, I cook both my lunch and dinner the night before. It is a major drag (it takes about an hour but I'm slow at cooking) and the omelette is cold the next day.

Also where I said 1.25 onions, I meant 0.75 onions - otherwise they will be very oniony!

Wait till you see my super dooper 3 week time-lapse photo animation...

I'll be happy with a list of measurements, thanks! 😆

you hit the gym/bike hard you'll just gain a bit of weight in 3 weeks

I doubt it.

The best 'diet' I ever did was the 2008 TransWales.
50 offroad miles a day (2000m climbing) for 7 days
I ate as much as I could possibly get into me: Huge fried breakfast + porrige, lots of energy drinks and bars, baguettes, cake, biscuits, fruit for lunch, 2xchoc bars at the finish nearly every day, huge dinner + pudding.

I got sick and tired of eating.

I lost 1/2 stone in a week.

And when I got home, I could rip up any local climb like it didn't even exist, I felt sooooo strong!

It is entirely possible to loose 6kgs in 3 weeks, I know because I have done it myself.

It just isn't very good for you, and you will struggle to keep it up.

There is no magic trick, exercise lots, long road rides, eat FA, minimise bread, pasta, potatoes, learn to love carrots.

Drink lots of water, get loads of sleep.

It will hurt and you will start to ride slowly past bins, thinking you can smell bags of chips in them.

Are you sure you want to do this ? Why not just buy new jeans and stand in front of her saying you have lost weight ? Get a new haircut, sort out that nose and ear hair and shave your back. Shower more regularly and wash those trainers. Learn some new jokes and clean the house from top to bottom, including throwing out your 3 cupboard t-shirts from the 80s collection.

There you go sorted. I'm on a roll today... Hmm, rolls...

[i]dinner - [b]3[/b] high quality 100% pork sausages[/i]

Should have just had the salad...

[i]Currently munching on a handful of strawberrys and rasberrys with some low-fat vanilla yoghurt[/i]

Stop ****ing eating...

The whole point of the exersize is to lose weight isn't it? You will achieve most of this through [b]cutting back/out[/b] on your food intake, not replacing one piece of food, with another bit of food, OK?

The whole point of the exersize is to lose weight isn't it? You will achieve most of this through cutting back/out on your food intake, not replacing one piece of food, with another bit of food, OK?

Point taken... though, I do have to eat something, so making sure it's healthy and low fat (and in moderation) is a plus right? Given that I've just launched straight into this with no buildup, it's a big change for my body, so don't want to shock it too much in the first 2-3 days 😆 . Will be transitioning to something quite like JHW's plan over the next couple of days, fear not 🙂