its both and it is hard to defend either tbh.
Just read in my local paper that for murder a man was jailed for 4 yrs and 9 months so it looks like 6 months for water thief shows what this goverment thinks is most inportant .
Incredibly moving and dignified and one in the eye for the Islam bashers
I am seriously impressed with Tariq Jahan. After his son was so callously murdered you might have expected him to be simply overwhelmed with anger, resentment, and a need for vengeance. And yet within hours he was calling for calm and reconciliation.
And yes, it's one in the eye for the Islam bashers. Tariq Jahan is clearly motivated by a deep belief in Islam, as he tee shirt which says "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger" shows :
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It's also worth pointing out that Trevor Reeves of Reeves furniture shop in Croydon, which had been passed down through 5 generations for 144 years, and was totally distraught the night his landmark shop was destroyed, has urged not to throw the baby out with the bathwater by reacting with pointless knee-jerk reactions :
[url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/08/15/trevor-reeves-whose-business-was-destroyed-during-riots-in-croydon-argues-against-evicting-innocent-families-115875-23345593/ ]Destroyed Croydon furniture shop owner argues against evicting innocent families[/url]
guardian breakdown of rioters and sentences....
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/18/england-rioters-young-poor-unemployed ]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/18/england-rioters-young-poor-unemployed[/url]
Highest estimated cost of riots: £100m.Tax avoidance by Vodafone: £6 Billion
Tax spent on Libyan intervention: £1 Billion
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Tax avoidance in 2010 by richest people in UK: £7 BillionTaxpayers' bill for banking crisis: £131 Billion
Tax money spent in Iraq conflict: £4.5 billion
Tax money spent on Afghan conflict (up until 2007): £7 billion
Total MP expenses bill (2007): £87.6m
Perspective: Priceless
just a thought like
and so it begins
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14589259 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14589259[/url]
and so it begins
Yep, and more pointless costs for the taxpayer and time-wasting for the courts.
And oh look, common-sense instead of stupid sentences :
[i]Judge Gilbart ordered Nevin to do 75 hours of unpaid voluntary work instead.
"I am sure the courts will not be troubled by you again. Leave now and look after your children."[/i]
[i]Nevin was in bed at the time of the riots [/i]
S'funny Ernie
The judge you're praising for common sense, is the same one who on the previous page we were being told was [i]saying certain individuals will be treated with prejudice. He's not fit to hold office, imo.[/i]
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I would like to see the introduction of the '3 strikes rule'....after an offender's 3rd appearance in court they are jailed for life.
Beautiful in its simplicity.
The offender would clearly be a serial criminal and hasnt learnt from the previous 2 appearances in court so deserves to play no further part in society.
Cant stand all this rehabilitation nonsense, prison is there to keep the idiots away from law abiding society.
S'funny ErnieThe judge you're praising for common sense.......
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I didn't praise any judge for common sense.
Try reading what I wrote slowly : [i]"And oh look, common-sense instead of stupid sentences".[/i]
Yes that's right, the outcome of the appeal was common-sense. Should I praise the judge for applying common-sense ? Well maybe, although I expect nothing less than common-sense from a court. So just like I wouldn't praise a carpenter for managing to hang a door correctly, I am unlikely to heap praise on a judge who decides on a sensible and appropriate sentence.
And btw, I have never previously criticised the judge in question, so I fail to understand what is so hilarious on that count.
I tell you what Zulu-Eleven, you're bleeding lucky that just being stupid isn't a crime here in Britain - you'd be hauled before the courts on a daily basis. And if I was the judge, I'd throw away the key.
Beautiful in its simplicity.
It's certainly worked beautifully in the USA.
Going hydrated to steal - a new statute perhaps?
And you think it's fine for Hazel Blears to demand, quote : "good, stiff, exemplary sentences" for those who we are told have a misplaced "sense of entitlement" ?
Just because Blears is a horrible grasping MP who has played the system to feather her own nest, doesn't mean she is wrong about sentences for rioters.
A - she didn't do anything criminal.
B - even if you think what she did was morally wrong, it didn't leave people in fear in the way that the rioting did.
Exemplary sentences may not be the best option for the individual felons, but they are necessary to rebuild the confidence of a large section of the public.
