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[Closed] London is not representative of the united kingdom it's a landlocked island.

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Erm Swindon was actually the birthplace of the nhs, not a lot of people know that.

This isn't [i]quite[/i] true, but the model on which the NHS was then based was pioneered there:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2008/06/27/nhs_swindon_60th_feature.shtml

Ahh London, a flaccid old spam javelin that's well past it's prime and utterly kidding itself if it thinks it's anywhere close to being on a par with New York City's purple headed warrior.

Utter, utter pish. New York would love to be like London in terms of history, culture and diversity. It just doesn't have the depth of stuff that London does. Any intelligent New Yorker will tell you this. It's like London's flashy, brash, loud younger relative. Has a lot of growing up to do 'til it's even anywhere close.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 3:54 pm
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London's fine, like any other big city really. Full of the same sorts of folk the world over. Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart 'cept for the languages (and even that's no way of telling sometimes) All have the shopping, most have old buildings and museums and parks...and traffic and drunks and whatever.

Personally I like to see the horizon, but I understand why London and mega cities like it are appealing


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:00 pm
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London is the UK's only really big city tho, and that makes it unique.

Plus there are plenty of places in London where you can see to the horizon, and plenty of places in the world's great wildernesses where you can't 🙂


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:13 pm
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I assume he means a horizon without buildings?!


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:15 pm
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London- great place to visit, great place to work, but the best bit for me is always leaving at the end of the day!


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:19 pm
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Aye, you know, the sky meeting the ground...

I don't hate cities, and I can see Elfin's point, London's got a claim to be one of the "great" cities. S'not for me, is all.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:19 pm
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If a the buildings are several miles away does that not still constitute the horizon?


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:21 pm
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Plus there are plenty of places in London where you can [s]see to the horizon[/s] eat the air it's so thick with pollution, and plenty of places in the world's great wildernesses where you [s]can't[/s] can smell a daisy a mile a way, the air is so clear
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Posted : 06/09/2010 4:21 pm
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I was in London last Monday, the air was fine.

Sure, it wasn't an Alpine meadow, but so what? I love those too 🙂 The advantage of being able to see the good in most things is that you're always near something good 🙂

Btw I don't think London's noticeably less polluted than any other big UK city.

In any case, bristolbiker, you can't talk. Bristol has all of the disadvantages of London and absolutely none of the advantages!


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:26 pm
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Funny how people slag London off, but they'll all come here to shop, see concerts/shows, eat, visit museums and galleries, etc. 😀

If you don't like it, then don't ever come here. Quite simple isn't it? That way, those of us who are intelligent enough to appreciate it properly will enjoy it without you miserable buggers clogging the place up. 😉


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:28 pm
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grips, sort of. I just prefer my views a little less man made*

*with the proviso that I live in the south east of England and it's all a bit manufactured...If I look out of my office window it's fields and coos. I prefer that to taxis and buildings and people...


 
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I too love to look out over countryside. However, I can see the good in London, and I don't slag it off. I would enjoy talking about the good points of something more than the bad, wouldn't you all?

I could live there (lots of work for me) but don't.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:30 pm
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Actually, you're right, London as a whole comes, out 3rd bottom in the UK in a quick straw pole on Google....

In any case, bristolbiker, you can't talk. Bristol has all of the disadvantages of London and absolutely none of the advantages!

No, I'd disgree with that - my local single track is 50m from the door, and a bus to the centre takes 10 minutes the other way.

Like I said, I like London for what it is - as Elfin says above, it does have the shows, museums etc etc and that's fine.... which confirms my inital post that it is like a theme park, where all the rides are in one place and when you've had enough you can go home....


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:41 pm
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I think most people could say the same of where they live, that it is different from the rest of the UK, has it's own identity.
Not sure I'd got to the trouble of starting a thread about it though 😕


 
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In any case, bristolbiker, you can't talk. Bristol has all of the disadvantages of London and absolutely none of the advantages!

As a Londoner who chose to move to Bristol, I always say that it's the other way around. Well ok, definitely doesn't have all the advantages/none of the disadvantages but has the ones that I care about - eg things/places to do and see without crap commuting and with mtbing 20 mins away, affordable (relatively speaking!) housing.

London is great though and I love going back for the weekend to visit family/friends but to get the best of it you really either need to be very into culture/arts/all the other things that London simply has much more of than anywhere else and/or very rich.


 
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When I last went there, Bristol was insanely busy traffic-wise, a bloody nightmare to get around and contained nothing of interest. Even the shopping was crap!

And there was naff-all decent biking locally, although I'd be happy to be proved wrong there.

PS I know I am complaining when I previously said I liked to focus on the good - I am just trolling 🙂


 
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Bristol has some awful traffic - as does any big city - however, as a Londoner, I'm constantly suprised at just how localised it is (rather than being everywhere) and how short the 'rush hour' seems.

Not really sure how the shopping's crap - isn't it the same as everywhere - eg all the big names that you get everywhere plus Park Street and various other areas for the independents? Name me somewhere where it's good? Though TBH I really couldn't care less about the shopping...

Biking's great, thanks 🙂 at least, it suits me.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 4:53 pm
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Most cities have bad traffic yes, but London has the tube which is an alternative most cities don't have.

Not really sure how the shopping's crap - isn't it the same as everywhere

When I walk around Broadmead it looks shabby and depressing. This does not make for a pleasant town centre experience, for me.


 
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Broadmead is shabby and depressing. That's why they put up Cabot Circus a couple of years ago 🙂

As to traffic, Bristol's small really so unless it is rush hour, it's not really an issue.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 5:04 pm
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Cabot circus is half a shopping centre tacked onto a crap town centre. St David's 2 in Cardiff wees on it 🙂


 
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Nah, that's full of Welshies though 😉


 
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As a Londoner, born and bred, i think it's a truly amazing place. I ride around it all day and it never ceases to amaze me one way or another (unless of course it's p!ssing down and 2 above zero). But, the rest of our fine country is also amazing has has many undiscovered gems that i'll find in time.

London and the UK rocks.


 
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Yay! 😀


 
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Also, affixing rubber soles to your clogs will stop your clattering being less noticeable

Not true - once spent a trip on the tube sparking our clogs on each other & on the metal bits of the floor - absolutely terrified the locals! 😆


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:14 pm
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Plus there are plenty of places in London where you can [s]see to the horizon[/s] eat the air it's so thick with pollution, and plenty of places in the world's great wildernesses where you can't [s]can[/s] smell a daisy a mile a way, the air is so clear

Try visiting Los Angeles some time. Quite apart from sea fog that comes in regularly, the smog sits as a brown haze over the whole city.
I was in London last week for a concert in the evening, lovely sunny day, tube to Piccadilly, over to the Japan Centre for some nosh, walk down to St James's Park to eat it, up to Trafalgar Square to see the Ship In A Bottle installation then along to Heaven for the gig. Excellent. I love Bristol, there's so much more going on there nowadays, especially music wise, and Clifton, the docks and other areas are much better now, but to have things like the Tate and Tate Modern, National, and Portrait Galleries, Science, Natural History, British and V&A Museums...
I honestly don't think there's another city with so much to offer that's so easy to get around with the Tube 'n'all.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:16 pm
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I think that Elfinsafety bloke might be from London you know...

Speaking as a Northern chap, that London is a magical place. Just magic. I love going, love the sights, the sounds, the smells, the ladies, all of it. It is one of the great cities of the world, and puts every other city in the UK to shame, even those in t'North.

It's a bit dear, and the chippies are rubbish, and the off road stuff is a bit poor, but as a place, it's ace.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:20 pm
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Cardiff

A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Btw, I think London's great too. Don't want to live there but lots of my friends do which gives me plenty of reasons to visit...I have to see Fred's missus' child every few weeks anyway. And when I get sick of the Freds of this world I can point the car west and go back to Bristol.

Cardiff's great for the millenium stadium and the half marathon there's an excellent race.

Hell, I even like Liverpool and Manchester too....and Glasgow, and Newcastle.

What's the point in shitting on a city just because you don't live there?


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:23 pm
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...and trains that go underground...

You London types complain about the tube; Jesus! It's amazing, reliable, clean enough, cheap enough, it just works so well compared to shitty buses..


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:23 pm
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and the chippies are rubbish

ernie_lynch to the thread please! 😀


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:29 pm
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[i]and the chippies are rubbish

ernie_lynch to the thread please![/i]

They don't have proper gravy, mushy peas, or

DA DADA DA DADA DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Londons carpenter types are mighty fine though....


 
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> London needs an area the size of Spain to provide it's resources.
And its GDP is the same as Austria's.

No it's not. You're confusing revenue generated UK wide and reported in the City of London with actual revenue generated by people who live and work in London.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 9:56 pm
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You won't get this in Bristol:
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Well I'm not very up on all that stuff, but according to Wiki, London's GDP is $565 billion, while that of the entire UK is $2.2 trillion. So London's GDP makes up 1/4 of the entire UK's. Considering London's metropolitan area population is getting on for 14 million, if you consider the entire population of the UK is an estimated 62 million, then it's reasonable to believe that these figures are accurate. 25 percent of the GDP is generated by 22.5% of the population. Sort of. Oh it's too compulcated for me... 🙁


 
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You wouldn't get it in Bath either. The w4nkers in town planning would see to such modern rubbish 🙂


 
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I have to see Fred's missus' child every few weeks anyway

She's not my missus any more; kicked her out months ago. And if I were you, DD, I'd get a paternity test. I mean, it's costing you a fortune, but are you really sure? Are you? With her track record? 😕


 
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I only see the little ****er. Not paying nothing. Not since I got rid of that funny rash. Says you look after her anyway, but you're too tough to admit it to anyone in public. 🙂


 
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Pfft. Last I heard she'd snared some poor bugger over Bristol/Bath way. Poor sod.

You seen her sister? Jeeze, she's a cah. And their mum. Coven of bloody witches the three of 'em. Macbeth's got nowt on me.


 
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You won't get this in Bristol:

Indeed not - just this pathetic little thing:
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I'm sure the Bristolians are green with envy that they don't have a ship in a bottle instead.


 
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Posted : 06/09/2010 11:08 pm
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Yeah well you're just copying us:

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(Not there atm; some jealous Bristolians tried burning it down, the bastards)


 
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I'm sure the Bristolians are green with envy that they don't have a ship in a bottle instead.

We also have the real thing:
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I think people should be proud to have a city like London in their country, but you don't have to bow down and worship it(no matter what Fred says 😉 )and you don't have to live there.


 
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but you don't have to bow down and worship it

What?

BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!


 
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Yeah, but I held onto my trump card:
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Not there atm....

😕 Yes it is :

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Obviously she needs a bit of restoration work........but once she's had a lick of paint, she'll look as good as new.


 
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Has no one ever been to Rhyl Suncentre?. ****ing phillistines. You know nothing.


 
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