Liz! Truss!
 

Liz! Truss!

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There must be an ALL OF YOU JUST **** OFF button we can press somewhere?

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:05 pm
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How longs she got? November?

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:05 pm
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Kwasi's "resignation" letter is being read on sky news.

Still doubling down and it's all the markets fault apparently.

But... He's saying it all was "her vision", that might not be helpful.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:06 pm
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Maybe the door at No10 needs to be replaced with a revolving one!

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:08 pm
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Still doubling down and it’s all the markets fault apparently.

but but but isnt the concept the markets are always right a fundamental part of these nutters worldview?

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:08 pm
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Can’t wait for this afternoon’s press conference

https://twitter.com/newsthump/status/1580881442141138946?s=20&t=CVW3TmLo3Y76cwoFtOBeMQ

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:09 pm
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Sky also reporting that number 10 has been calling around potential candidates for a few days now.

His card was marked before he even went to new york.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:10 pm
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I'd prefer an ejector seat.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:10 pm
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but but but isnt the concept the markets are always right a fundamental part of these nutters worldview?

The only fundamental thing in their world view is they're right

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:11 pm
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Goddam antigrowth coalition pinko commie markets, worster than the main stream media

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:12 pm
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Various Twitter journos saying he is not going to go quietly so hopefully highlighting it was Truss’s vision in the resignation is just the start

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:14 pm
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Sky also reporting that number 10 has been calling around potential candidates for a few days now.

His card was marked before he even went to new york.

I can imagine the conversations

"don't bother going Kwasi, we're already arranging your replacement"

"ha, I'm going to Washington, I bet you've not found anyone before I get back"
...

"that's it, come home, we've found someone and you'll be gone by mid afternoon tomorrow."

"really,who?"

"Janet"

"Who?"

"you know, wanders round outside Westminster tube, chases the pigeons, says they're not real and actually spy drones, shouts at clouds... "

"really, she'll take the job? Is she a lunatic? "

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:16 pm
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Hunt would be mad to accept Chancellor job?

Truss will be gone shortly

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:20 pm
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Hunt would be mad to accept Chancellor job?

String her along a bit then say: 'no, not while you're PM'.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:22 pm
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Do you think she's going to do a Dorries and just do both jobs? She's already first lord of the treasury and that really sounds like the same job as CotE anyhow.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:22 pm
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Surely this now needs to enter the English language for a level of ****-wittery

“That’s done it! You’ve properly Kwatanged it this time!

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:23 pm
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It's going great:

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:25 pm
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Faith?

That's a good word for it.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:27 pm
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It's like watching a mates Tinder relationship end. Sad but kind of inevitable.

"The way we were...."

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:27 pm
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I’d prefer an ejector seat.

Gunge tank.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:30 pm
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Kwarteng says in his letter that it's important to emphasise Truss's commitment to financial discipline. That's a parallel to Putin's commitment to a free Ukraine.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:31 pm
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I’d prefer an ejector seat.

Graham Norton Big Red Chair style, whilst he's mid-sentence?

Harsh but fair.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:31 pm
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emphasise Truss’s commitment to financial discipline

Can be read as "It was all her idea"

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:34 pm
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6Music are currently playing "I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better When You're Gone" by the Byrds. Feels apt.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:35 pm
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According to my true blue Tory parents it's because there are too many wet liberal Tory MPs, and Braverman was great at the conference.

Is 53 too old to be adopted?

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:35 pm
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Gone by the end of the month.

https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1580887374292455424?s=20&t=F85DAsncCMm0d04mhnHbtA

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:36 pm
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Hunt's the new Chancellor...

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:37 pm
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Did not see that coming (at least not before the rumours earlier😂)

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:41 pm
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Well, that's Hunt tarred forever now. Good.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:45 pm
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Ever the political opportunist. And this is a hell of an opportunity, you have to admit.

https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/1580894164929064960

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:45 pm
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Ever the political opportunist. And this is a hell of an opportunity, you have to admit.

And so it begins...

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:47 pm
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Well, that’s Hunt tarred forever now. Good.

How long ago was the Junior Doctor episode? I remember a (Spectator?) article about 'Post Truth Politics' during Hunt's argument with the Junior Doctors and prior to the rise of Trump and BJ, scarily prescient.

It's bizarre that he nows seems like a level headed voice of reason.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:49 pm
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Hunt’s the new Chancellor…

He knows something we don't...

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:50 pm
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Let Nigel split the far right vote further I say.👍

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:53 pm
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Yep, it's official Jeremy Hunt it is.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:56 pm
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Minor point: Why is her letter formatted like this? It appears to be addressed to the Prime Minister, and signed by Kwasi. Obviously it's hard to believe that her staff would have so little attention to detail...

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:56 pm
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Daily Star doesn't give her long...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/liz-truss-lettuce-last-longer-28235047

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:56 pm
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Ever the political opportunist. And this is a hell of an opportunity, you have to admit.

New party alert… https://t.co/zt4wuqtWE3

— Iain Martin (@iainmartin1) October 14, 2022

That titan of sense,eh?

Nigel Farage
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12:49 pm · 23 Sep 2022

Last thing i saw him doing was telling pensioners to "unlock" there pensions by investing in Bitcoin. About 3 weeks before Bitcoin tanked.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:56 pm
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Let Nigel split the far right vote further I say

Ah yes, that [s] worked well in the past didn't it?[/s] still working well for us isn't it?

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 2:59 pm
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I've never voted Tory in my life and never will. But we need as a country to get out of huge pile of mess.
Assuming Truss will go before Christmas, and there not being a palatable replacement who won't cause even more in fighting amongst Tory members and MP's, I ask does the PM have to be an MP?
Would or could John Major step up as a caretaker to steady the Tory ship and perhaps steady the economy.
I know, again, he wouldn't be everyones choice, but you could say that he's been there and done that! He appears to still have all his 'marbles'. Biden is doing it in America, (ie steadying a rocky ship) couldn't we have a wise old sage here too?

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:02 pm
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Ah yes, that worked well in the past didn’t it? still working well for us isn’t it?

He agreed to not contest the election from memory, therefore gifting the Tories.

I'm not saying his presence is ideal by any means but we can't magic him away so if he splits what is left of the Tory voters. Good.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:04 pm
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Why not get Cameron in? He started it.

True

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:08 pm
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I expect if "Spreadsheet Phil" Hammond was still in the Commons she would have asked him. Just the nickname would have calmed the markets.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:09 pm
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With Chris Philp, the third man, out of the picture, that only leaves Liz Truss herself.

And with Tories now apparently openly talking of replacing Truss the only question really is when, not if.

What shouldn't be forgotten however imo is that whilst the harebrained idea of growth through tax cuts appears to have been short-lived there still remains an international crises in global capitalism. I have little doubt who will be paying the price for that, and it won't be those responsible. I can't see much to celebrate.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:10 pm
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Why not get Cameron in? He started it.

Because revenge, no matter how satisfying, is not a recruitment tool for a reliable, steady, clear and strategic politician and leader of our nation.

(but it would be funny).

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:13 pm
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I ask does the PM have to be an MP?

No real reason they can't be from the Lords.

He agreed to not contest the election from memory, therefore gifting the Tories.

Before or after UKIP terrified the tory party and gifted us the referendum? It's not a faint line between Nige, Brexit, Boris and Liz.

Because revenge, no matter how satisfying, is not a recruitment tool for a reliable, steady, clear and strategic politician and leader of our nation.

You say that, but whatever process we're currently using, which isn't revenge*, isn't working.

*unless of course Liz won on the back of votes of anti-tory voters who joined the Conservative Party do they could vote in the hope of selecting a leader who would do most damage to the party.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:14 pm
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Would or could John Major step up as a caretaker to steady the Tory ship

Well John Major was Thatcher's personal choice to replace her and he did an excellent job of carrying on with her policies, including privatisation of the railways (which she had attempted) introducing the bloodsucking PFI into the NHS, and oversaw the greatest home repossession in UK history, so yes, I can understand why he might appeal to the Tory Party faithful.

I'm not sure why he might appeal to someone who claims to have never voted Tory in their life though.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:21 pm
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I think there could easily be an election before christmas. If Truss hangs on there'll be civil war within the tory party. If she goes the right wing will kick off and there'll still be civil war. The result of that will be more economic chaos and potentially civil unrest. Something will have to give and the govt itself will collapse. Starmer will be thinking carefully about when to call a VONC.

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:24 pm
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Starmer will be thinking carefully about when to call a VONC

I can't see the government waiting until starmer comes up with a plan. Heck they've only got a few years left on office 😉

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:29 pm
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Not forgetting Major was shagging Edwina Currie and hectoring us about going back to "Family Values" as part of his Back to Basics campaign

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:29 pm
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Throw your hands up Liz. Give a big pfffffff. Say ‘dunno’. Shake your head, and head off to the pub (empty lectern).

 
Posted : 14/10/2022 3:41 pm
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