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Unless i've missed something, i'm pretty certain the government doesn't have a policy of funding Kosha light switches.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 11:52 am
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You have!

Providers of services to the public have to ensure they do so in a way that does not discriminate based on religious belief. (There is a link to this on the first page)
As the largest provider of services I can guarantee that the Government spends a significant amount of yours and my money on ensuring we do not in any way disadvantage or offend people who believe in fairy tales.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 12:00 pm
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yeah, lets invade a nice predominantly mulsim area and build it there without their permission. then we can slowly but surely start stripping the surrounding locals of their human rights.

I think we should understand that Judaism (and it's many forms from liberal to orthodox) should not be confused with Zionism.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 12:04 pm
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Not having read the rest of this thread,But i'd say they were a couple of tight-arse's trying it on cash in on a legal loophole.

Frivolous lawsuit,i hope they lose and have to pay costs

That will teach them 😈


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 12:23 pm
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[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5558521/Witches-claim-religious-discrimination-after-church-ban.html ]More senseless discrimination here[/url]

Shocking news for Sandra, 61, who has discovered that the "The Diocese of Shrewsbury [believes] witches are not 'compatible with the Catholic ethos'. "


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 1:46 pm
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Unless i've missed something, i'm pretty certain the government doesn't have a policy of funding Kosha light switches.

😆 😆

Exclellent!

This thread is a perfect example of how religion causes more bad than good.

It just divides people by righteousness and blind faith. Religion produces people frightened to think for themselves.

In our confused PC world, no sense can be made of a simple situation.

Look, the court should send the writ back and with a response along these lines; "your claim will not be heard becuase it is a total waste of the court's time and public money. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves and have no moral justification! We are sure that the Jewish people who endured real suffering and discrimination many years ago would be disgusted at your opportunistic swipe at a society, one which is the most tolerant in the world. You let down the entire Jewish faith. Get a life"


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 2:58 pm
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Mogrim's link is a splendid story. The hard, dogmatic edge of catholicism in action. We shan't burn you, but you're not using our hall. 🙂


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 2:59 pm
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Yeah thats totally fair BD, but would you rent her your hall??


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 4:29 pm
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Well put Spongebob.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 4:49 pm
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I used to be a (non-jewish) kosher chef working in Tel-Aviv, it was a right pain in the tits at times. The owner had a woman from the rabinate (I think thats what it's called) employed specifically to make sure the kitchen remained properly kosher at all times. The rest of the (jewish) staff spent most of their time thinking of ways to circumvent her rulings. On Fridays and Saturdays I used to spend a lot of time lighting other peoples cookers, grills etc to avoid them breaking the "don't make fire" rule!


 
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Posted : 17/06/2009 6:19 pm
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This thread is a perfect example of how religion causes more bad than good

It's nothing of the sort. It's just another example of religion being a powerful force in uniting the STW brethren in feeling superior to some out group.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 6:38 pm
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out group? You haven't actually contributed with that!


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 6:47 pm
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What amazes me is that people who believe there is a god believe he would be petty enough to care about the lights in the hall. Seriously he's supposed to be omnipotent, the creator of everthing, the supreme being, he will probably understand.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 6:59 pm
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It's nothing of the sort. It's just another example of religion being a powerful force in uniting the STW brethren in feeling superior to some out group.

Is there a reason why I should feel the need to respect views which I consider to be massively outdated superstitious nonsense, especially when they are being imposed on others, and in this case are opposing a measure to save energy and money.

They have a perfectly valid right to believe it, just the same as I have a right to think it's nonsense.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 7:05 pm
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Very well put grumm


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 7:31 pm
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[url= http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/jewishlaw.html ]Jewish Law [/url]

This was an ace series of documentaries on C4 a couple of years ago about members of the ultra-orthodox communiy in Munchester. Fair to say that of the religions of the book the ultra orthodox Jews take some beating for the intricacy of their laws, some of which quite frankly were utterly barmy, a point conceded by some of those who took part in the doc.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 8:01 pm
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They could buy a pet rat and shove it into the hallway whenever they wanted to go out.

Or climb out the window.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 8:52 pm
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Is there a reason why I should feel the need to respect views which I consider to be massively outdated superstitious nonsense

No, and I said no such thing. This thread is just not

a perfect example of how religion causes more bad than good

or even an example of [b][u]religion[/b][/u] doing anything, this thread is an example of a bunch of STWers gathering round to feel smugly superior to another group of people in an environment of mutually supportive s****ing.


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 10:23 pm
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While you instead show your smug superiority by apparently taking some kind of moral high ground without actually offering any of your own views? 😉


 
Posted : 17/06/2009 10:28 pm
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it's not [i]smugly superior[/i] when it's directed at inferior people you know...

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Posted : 17/06/2009 10:29 pm
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While you instead show your smug superiority by apparently taking some kind of moral high ground without actually offering any of your own views?

No, I've given my view above, twice. And I think moral superiority is a good thing.


 
Posted : 18/06/2009 6:41 am
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I just think it's funny!


 
Posted : 18/06/2009 6:59 am
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this thread is an example of a bunch of STWers gathering round to feel smugly superior to another group of people in an environment of mutually supportive s****ing.

I know but its so easy!


 
Posted : 18/06/2009 7:21 am
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Isn't the act of opening the door "work" though? Closing one would be "constructing a wall" so really they shouldn't be going into the hall on the sabbath anyway.

Anyhoo - on these grounds I have decided to start my own religion that everyone should join. I believe that God said "when you go into a bank or shop they should give you all the cash available". Once we establish then the providers of goods and services will have to comply with this belief in order not to discriminate against us.

I also believe that it is a sin, cos God told me so, to pay any form of tax.

So... whos in?


 
Posted : 18/06/2009 7:47 am
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No, I've given my view above, twice.

Not really, you've offered no comment on the actual story, you've just slagged off everyone elses opinion - hardly very constructive.

And I think moral superiority is a good thing.

Wow you are taking it to a whole new level of smugness.


 
Posted : 18/06/2009 7:54 am
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Anyhoo - on these grounds I have decided to start my own religion that everyone should join. I believe that God said "when you go into a bank or shop they should give you all the cash available". Once we establish then the providers of goods and services will have to comply with this belief in order not to discriminate against us.

Rob, I suspect you will get a tax break on that as well.


 
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