10 months.. nah.
Year later.. maybe.
2 years later.. for sure 🙂
This is reckoning without Mrs b. who wouldn't leave any of them for a night.
We've had 1 night away together in 4 years, doesn't bother me all that much to be honest.
Quite different having a [b][u]baby[/u][/b] for a day (or two) compared to a week. I totally trust my parents and inlaws but there's stuff they just can't do - including [b][u]running for them if they go near a road[/u][/b], etc.
She'll be ten months. If she has mastered a few faltering steps, or even just standing up, then she'll be doing quite well! I don't think her outrunning the grandparents will be an issue.
Oh, did I mention her great-grandparent will also be there - though she'll be 95 by then, so may well get outpaced 😀
Oh yes - I forgot they can't run at 10 months (unless incredibly gifted)!!
Well they might not be able to catch the pram/buggy if it rolls down the road then...
At 10 months I was working down t'pit!
Tell your 10 month old to MTFU!
Get yourself a break
Well they might not be able to catch the pram/buggy if it rolls down the road then...
True, but I doubt I could either 😆
This is reckoning without Mrs b. who wouldn't leave any of them for a night.
😯
Thanks for the positive comments. Glad to know we're not complete monsters for considering it. 🙂
I'm at a keyboard now, so some proper replies:
b r: What do they think, have you asked them? And how many overnighters will she have done by then?
They suggested it. Not sure, so far she has only been away with us. Though mother-in-law did take her for a full day while we went to a mate's wedding.
Cletus: If it were me I would see how she copes with being left for a weekend before deciding.
Yeah we will probably do a trial run at some point, but the holiday needs to be booked fairly soon so we won't know the results.
You also run the risk of missing first steps, words etc.
I risk missing those every day when I go to work. We'll both risk missing them when she goes to nursery in April.
KINGTUT: Seems very selfish to me.
Her parent's happiness undoubtedly has a bearing on her on wellbeing also, no? And won't spending time with trusted guardians build her confidence and sociability?
I can't stand to be away from my 6 month old for longer than one night.
I'm about to go away for three days with work 🙁
mastiles_fanylion: Have you considered taking her and compromising what you do when you get there (ie, share the childcare and take turns to ski with the group)
Yup. That was the original plan. Either take my mum as nanny (expensive!), or just ski alternate days. In-laws suggested this option.
Divagirl: I was still breastfeeding at 10 months. Didn't get a holiday until my daughter was 7. (wasn't bf for 7 years mind!)
We plan to start weaning at six months. She's already really interested in food, so she should be well off boob by ten months.
Denno17: Welcome to parent hood once the kids are here there are some sacrifices that must be made.
Thanks, we know. We've made a fair few already. I'm sure there will be plenty more. 😀
Despite what you might think, we're really not against making them if required.
missingfrontallobe : Welcome to the next x number of years of your life.
We've not had more than 1 night away from MFL Jr in 10 years
Blimey! Do you think MFL Jr has benefited from that? 😯
What about school trips, cubs/brownie camps, etc?
toys19: ...seeing as you are asking then maybe you feel guilty? You have to ask do you feel guilt towards the kids? If yes then do not go
Obviously we'll feel guilty and anxious about leaving her. But no I don't feel any guilt in the sense that I think it would be doing her harm.
On the contrary I think it would do her good and would give her grandparents a great time with her before they get too old.
mastiles_fanylion: But is he doing it because he needs a break or because he wants to carry on having no responsibilities?
A break would be good, as work is pretty hard going and I've not seen some of these mates in nearly a year.
But I don't [i]think[/i] it's a case of wanting no responsibilities. We both love having her, we're loving being parents and we want to do the best for her.
wwaswas: biggest question is could you and MrsG_S enjoy the holiday without the child being there.
Yep that's a factor. We'd definitely miss her a lot.
Travis: doesn't the snowboarding place have a creche?
Not for babies and I'd probably be less comfortable with that than leaving her with people I know and trust.
geetee1972: You know this is why so many new parents end up on group skiing holidays; it's the perfect group holiday for new parents because with enough of you, you only need to miss one days skiing whilst doing your stint of child care.
Sadly those in the group that have had kids recently are not coming, mainly due to being skint. The rest are single or have teenage kids (who are coming and skiing with us).
As the person who has looked after my nephew from the age of 10 months on a regular basis, I would say wait a year.
We looked after our nephew after he had stopped breast feeding and he was used to us being around us all the time. Starting off with nights, then the odd weekend and once or twice long weekends. However if your parents only see their grand daughter evey few weeks, it may be tough going if she realises you have gone away and the major tantrums start.
The best solution ( as mentioned above) is to take her along, with friends/families with similar aged children.
I do believe it's good though for young children to stay with relatives for odd weekends and even longer, they end up more confident and if in times of a crisis ( or if another child comes along and the parents need a rest) they're used to staying away from home.
We plan to start weaning at six months. She's already really interested in food, so she should be well off boob by ten months.
You know babies should still be drinking milk as well as food at 10 months (boob or formula)?
Do it.
We just left our 10 month old son for the first time last weekend. He spent a couple of nights at my Mum's and a couple at my Sister's. They all had a great time. Mum and Sister live 100 miles way so don't get to see him often enough, this was a great opportunity for them to spend some quality time together without us around.
Obviously we both missed him terribly, but we had time together for the first time since he was born (4 lie in's!!!!) which did us the world of good, and he had a great time too. The look on his face when he saw us Monday was priceless.
You'll miss her more than she'll miss you.
Given the state my niece was in for a 4 day skiing weekend when my sis and brother in law buggered off to enjoy the snow, I'd have to say no. Our children coming up to 5 and 3 have never had a night without my wife or I and we don't intend on doing so either until one of them asks to stay at grandparents.
Exactly or formula.
Your decision Graham go for it I say too many scare stories, if it doesn't work out then you know for next time. It's only a week.
When I was about 1 my mum and dad wnet on holiday without me, my gran looked after me. She dropped me in the bath and I had to have a couple of stiches on my face. Apparently it was a big drama at the time, especially as gran didnt have a car etc.... On the other side of the coin I dont remember it at all so that kind of covers both sides of the argument.
I'm astounded by those that have kids that have never had a night away from them. Can't understand the reasoning.
HEck if the grandparents have offered then why now? 10 months isn't small. yes no doubt you'll miss the kid but hey they'll learn, plus why can't you and the Mrs have a deserved break. Taking the kid with you, into creche or Mother to babysit is just so very very different to going on holiday on your own.
I can't be bothered to read all the posts but I'd be off like a shot. Go for it.
I'm astounded by those that have kids that have never had a night away from them. Can't understand the reasoning
You think thats bad, I get angsty being away from my dog, god help us when the child arrives next month!
I have been reading this with intrest as we are planning on leaving ours with my mum for maybe 3-4 days at a similar age due to work stuff. I will test her catching reflexes first though!!
No I miss the dog too when I'm away. Christ dogs miss you if your gone for 30 seconds.
I'd go and have done in the past when ours were small. If the gramps are more than capable of handling a baby for a week and want to then hell yes I'd go like a shot.
If it needs to be planned and booked now, then I'd say "give it a miss". You've no way of knowing what she'll be like in 6 months.
Better to wait and see how it works out by then and grab a quick break if it all looks well.
Bear in mind that, if you do go, the little 'un will get her own back when you get home.. - you'll have spent 10 months setting routines etc, all of which will be blown right out of the water by a week with doting grandparents... 😉
druidh: yeah trouble is that half the point of going is to see friends and getting last minute deals for eight or more adults is pretty impossible, so it does need booked in advance.
For the record, we went to Fernie last year while MrsGrahamS was seven months preggers...
.. she didn't ski tho 😀
Do it and enjoy it graham.
FWIW, our 5month old girl goes everywhere with us at the moment, including the bike park (c.f. winter ski hill). Spent 3 days at Silver Star last week, 2 days at Whistler the week before and both of us got to ride. Some days we luckily had a non-riding friend who offered to babysit, other days my wife & I just rotated. Meet up for lunch in the village and swap the baby for the lift ticket! Got a great photo of Mrs Burts in cycling gear feeding BabyBurts with a stack of full-face helmets around her, just before another lap of Crank It Up.
We have been leaving our nipper with his grandparents since 6 months.. every other weekend or so.. just for one night.. the thought of any more than that... despite all our expectations to the contrary.. we feel a bit wierd and worried.. and the grandparents only live 30 miles up the way..
I would not do it myself personally for all sorts of reasons..
have some practice runs first if I was you..
we have however taken the boy camping on a couple of occasions and to a couple of music festivals..
take the little one with you
I have been on ski holidays with parents of younger kids, they brought a nanny. At that age, you will find creches that will take a baby of 10 months, but most groups I have been with have only left their kids of that age for a morning. I have been with other friends who have brought the grandparents.
I think they would be all be slightly better options and you will be able to find a suitable resort but you may need to do the legwork rather than just joining your friends' plans.
so she should be well off boob by ten months.
Shouldn't be. You should keep on giving breast milk as well as a full diet until one or even two - the WHO guidlines (not the aged rock band) are til two. JnrGrips gradually went off it at about 16m or so.
Personally I would NOT have left her alone for a whole week at 10mo. I don't think she'd have known wtf was happening and would have been extremely stressed and scared that Mum and Dad had disappeared. And I'm not being soppy - believe me, I can't wait til she can spend a weekend at my folks'!
Eh, no - not for that length of time. The bairn will be old enough by then to feel separation anxiety when their primary people aren't around and you've no idea yet quite how they'll be.
People do worse by their kids than that though so please yourself.
PS - One post said something about it being good for the baby. I don't think being exposed to anxiety-creating situations makes a baby feel more secure. It works the other way around - fewer anxiety-creating situations mean they develop a sense of security more quickly.
Jeeze there's some middle class angst on here!
'Ooh I can't bear to leave my darling little child for more than 10 seconds less someone thinks I'm a bad parent!'.
Please.
Eh, no - not for that length of time. The bairn will be old enough by then to feel separation anxiety when their primary people aren't around and you've no idea yet quite how they'll be.
Eh? What on Earth psychobabble crap is that?
Look at other cultures; babies left with other family members with no ill effects on the children whatsoever. In fact, getting kids used to other people at an early age helps develop their independence and relationship skills. The 'Nuclear family' is a very modern phenomenon, not helped by the increasingly divisive society in which we live. Nah, go back to the extended family idea, especially if you have the option.
'Seperation Anxiety'. FFS... 😆
It's not that babbly surely. Babies go through a clingy phase. I'm not convinced leaving them for a week during that time is a great idea.
You're clearly better read on the subject than me though, what with all those other cultures you were educating me about.
I agree it's good to leave them with other people and so on but maybe not at ten months for a week at a time, eh.
As the parent of a 4 month old, currently sitting in a park in ambleside with a baby who just spontaneously decided to get up at 12, 130, 230, 430 and finally got into proper I'm awake not going back to sleep at all mode at 545 (hence needing to go for a walk at 6 am, to get the mother some sleep), I'd be well tempted by a week away just us right now (obviously at her age, breast feeding means it isn't possible!) And I'm on a walking holiday, where we can do much of the stuff we went to do with the baby in the sling, also with some family support too.
A few things about family coming on holiday to help look after babies, as opposed to babies visiting them:
1) you still get the nights
2) you may find that family help is primarily good for when you have a happy smiley baby, often other peoples ' baby help' means bounce baby until they get grumpy, find you and deliver a grumpy baby.
3) unless you are lucky enough to have insomniac grandparents, don't expect much help at that very early point when darling little one decides it is morning ( in our case we have one very early riser which can be very helpful)
4) if they get bored of / for some reason find it hard to look after the baby, your chances of any baby free activities on holiday are buggered. Especially a worry at the age where they start learning who friendly people are, where they take quite a time to get used to an unfamiliar face (ours is just starting this and it's a pain - she has a tendency to grump in any new persons arms the moment she can't see mum/dad)
5) make sure they remember that babies have nappies and need checking/changing every so often, even if they've had kids of their own.
6)i don't know your baby, but ours has variously been described as 'alert', ' energetic', ' wiggly', ' active' etc - which is basically shorthand for mentalist insanely full of energy baby that hardly stops, for someone not used to her (who doesn't know how to minimize effort whilst entertaining her) she is pretty tiring to look after now, and I imagine by 10 months when she can crawl, it is going to be hard work, particularly for a couple of elderlys. Depends on your baby - I know friends kids who are a million times more placid, who are much less energy intensive to look after.
I don't really have a solution though - I don't think we'll seriously go off for a week sans baby until she is quite a lot older than 10 weeks.
Joe
Think its all down to how you and your misses feel about it, your the ones that know your child and how they will react.
Were leaving our two with my mum and dad for a week soon. They will be 3years and 13months. They only see my parents every couple of weeks but are very happy with them, have had them for several weekends previoulsly. My parents love it, and although the kids miss us it helps strengthen the bonds between my kids and my parents. The kids love my parents to bits!
Saying that, after a week my wife will be tearing her hair out missing her babies! She say's she will be fine but im not so sure.
Shouldn't be. You should keep on giving breast milk as well as a full diet until one or even two - the WHO guidlines (not the aged rock band) are til two. JnrGrips gradually went off it at about 16m or s
Yeah yeah. Good luck with raising your kid by all those guidelines out there.
About the who guidelines, aren't they going to be focussed on long breastfeeding due to it being an obvious good idea in countries with poor water supply, where any alternative drink is likely to cause nasty diseases, particularly in babies.
Guidelines are really shit though aren't they? Let's cause worry with parents who think they have to breastfeed (not helped by midwives pressuring mum from the off). Some kids take to it and prefer it, others don't - and it ain't anything to do with parenting skills - it's just an individual doing what individuals do - something individual.
More good points. On the basis of this thread we're now thinking again about how we can take her with us. 🙂
Regarding The Who: yep, we know the guidelines. MrsGrahamS is a medical registrar so has done background reading 🙂 lil MissGrahamS will be exclusively on boob juice till 6 months (unless she literally drains my wife dry - which is possible!). But breastfeeding will stop as teeth come in. We both reckon that is nature's little hint! We'll probably still use a bit of expressed milk after that, to go with baby rice/porridge etc, but neither of us have any huge worries about introducing some formula at that stage as well.
You shouldn't have any worries about formula - unless you find a box with a spring in it like I saw on the local (north yorks) news last night :-0
Blimey! ... for a "bouncing baby" presumably?!
I meant more that the research (as we understand it) shows that the measurable benefits of breastfeeding come from the first six months or so, after that it makes **** all difference (assuming clean water and suitable food is readily available).
Another wee point - do your friends on the holiday all have kids ? If I was going on a holiday with friends, and somebody suggested bringing not just a baby but also their mum and dad along, er, think I might be washing my hair that week... what do your friends think ??
Jeeze there's some middle class angst on here!'Ooh I can't bear to leave my darling little child for more than 10 seconds less someone thinks I'm a bad parent!'.
Please.
Says the non parent.
Got nothing to do with anyones opinion other than my own. As will the OP's decision.
But GrahamS did ask for opinions 🙂
I'm struggling with the amount of opinion that think it's odd to want to spend time with your children - after work and sleep has had it's share of the week there's precious little time with them anyway. Eldest has just gone to school and the adage that they grow up quick feels truer every day. There's going to be plenty of years of them flipping me the bird and bunking out windows on the pish later on, I intend to enjoy their company whilst they still enjoy mine.
Guidelines are really shit though aren't they? Let's cause worry with parents who think they have to breastfeed (not helped by midwives pressuring mum from the off). Some kids take to it and prefer it, others don't - and it ain't anything to do with parenting skills - it's just an individual doing what individuals do - something individual.
Sorry mate - no it's not a personal preference. One's better, one's worse. That's all there is to it.
As for the other guidelines, they're created by people who've looked into it a lot.
Re extended BF - it's better to let things take their course, is it not?
Another wee point - do your friends on the holiday all have kids ?
One does: but they are teenagers and skiing with us.
Our other friends going are all single. But we're a group in our mid-30s. We're not exactly raving every night.
But GrahamS did ask for opinions
I did and I welcome them all.
I'm struggling with the amount of opinion that think it's odd to want to spend time with your children
I don't think anyone is saying that. But I do find the idea that some folk haven't spent a night away from their kids in ten years a little bit odd.
If it was me I'd have a staycation and all three pickup with them next year.
Sorry mate - no it's not a personal preference. One's better, one's worse. That's all there is to it.
Yet some many others say there is little difference. Neither of my 2 had breast milk and are 2 very healthy kids who took to solids no problem at all. So yes it's a choice.
Drac - Member
I'm astounded by those that have kids that have never had a night away from them. Can't understand the reasoning
+1
To the OP, do it. It's only a week, the kid'll be fine. You're not packing baby off to a camp with unknown people, she's spending time with her grandparents! Just make sure she spends a reasonable amount of time with them beforehand, ideally increase the contact time with them in the months before you go. Assuming she knows them well enough separation anxiety shouldn't be an issue.
10 month old kids are pretty unpredictable, likely to be changing sleep patterns, subject to many and varied illnesses etc.
I wouldn't do it.
And despite the fact that your in-laws offered, I think they might not really be fully considering what they might be letting themselves in for. It's a long time since they had their own kids to look after.
But then again we've got 6 and 5 year olds now and have only left them, I think, for 2 or 3 overnights with grandparents, and didn't leave them at all before the youngest was 3. OTOH they both ride their bikes on the road to school, have drunk from mountain streams, play with hammers and screwdrivers etc, so we're not wrap in cotton wool types either.
