[Closed] Lake District soon to be an underground Atomic dump

Yes, let's bury our nuclear waste under one of the most beautiful natural sites in England.

Which turd burglars came up with this idea? Can they not bury it in camerons garden or something more appropriate?

While we're at it lets just use stonehenge as a refuse site.

Its a cop out.

Sellafields been here for years, everyone works there, its accepted. I guess they think everyone'll just accept a big nuclear waste dump aswell.

Well researched there.
The proposed facility will be outside of the national park.
The "Turd Burglars" have had a very wide consultation and Cumbria welcomed the opportunity.
It is seen as both a key economic development for an area with limited well paid employment.
It will mostly be relocating the waste held down the road at Sellafield (In Cumbria) into a long term storage facility in geologically stable area.
Would you prefer we move it round the UK lots?

You can use Stonehenge as a dump if you like, it's rubbish anyway

I still think it should go into the most stable geology in the UK rather than in fractured, fault ridden rock.

But alas the good people of London are not convinced by that argument.

I also think that the nuclear powerstations should be close to the sites they serve to save on transmission losses. But again, the people who live near such industrious centers don't like such ideas.

Well researched there.
The proposed facility will be outside of the national park.

My bad, I'm an idiot *holds hands up* 😳 lol

You can use Stonehenge as a dump if you like, it's rubbish anyway

Yes... Rubbish.... Boring place init. Thorpe park any day mate.

 

It is quite boring, 2nd rate compared to Callanish. And that was also quite boring.

Well researched there.
The proposed facility will be outside of the national park.

My bad, I'm an idiot *holds hands up* lol

Edited Piemonster?

 

Well, don't worry about the significant contamination of the west Lakes and all the coastline dating back to the early 50s, the huge stockpiles at Thorp and stuff just chucked in holes, the beaches that used to be regularly cordoned off for decontamination. Cos that's already happened a d us there already.
How about the cement factory at Shap? The millions of grockles pouring pollution and destroying the very things that they're apparently going there for, the morons doing bloody 3 Peaks walks, the lack of real employment and the disenfranchisement of real locals?

Nuffink to do with me, my posts remain as bad as they where when I typed 'em

Is it because I've studied just a teeny bit about radioactivity for my undergraduate project that I always fail to be alarmed by it?

It seems that radioactivity is a big scary monster to most people.

Most of those to alarmed should also avoid Cornwall & Edinburgh too

My grandfather-in-law was a pretty senior engineer at Windscale (Sellafield) - the stories would make your hair curl..

...then fall out.

And Fife at Dalgety Bay

Yes, let's bury our nuclear waste under one of the most beautiful natural sites in England.

How exactly will underground radioactive things make it less beautiful?

I suppose you'd prefer them to plaster the fellsides with wind turbines and access roads? That will make the area more beautiful i suppose?

My grandfather-in-law was a pretty senior engineer at Windscale (Sellafield) - the stories would make your hair curl..

...then fall out.

To be fair most industries (Coal/Steel/Construction/Asbestos) from the 50's would. Comparing the industry then to now is a touch simplistic.

My grandfather-in-law was a pretty senior engineer at Windscale (Sellafield) - the stories would make your hair curl..

...then fall out.

Yeh, they were all carefree hippies back then, who didnt really have a clue (about H&S)

Coal dust, not nice

http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/miners-lung-disease.shtml

well as long as its well contained under the lake district and not on top of it sounds fair enough to me

In the past ten years, over 10,000 American miners have died from CWP

Coalworker's pneumoconiosis that is, according to wiki

I suppose you'd prefer them to plaster the fellsides with wind turbines and access roads? That will make the area more beautiful i suppose?

I'd call straw man, but Zulu knew this already, so let's just ignore this one for now and stick to the discussion.

Edited Piemonster?

No, sorry that was my fault for not putting the quote's in properly

It's got to go somewhere. Not convinced this is a good site, geologically, though but that aside, they're spot on that perception is as important as reality, in terms of attracting/putting off visitors.

Northwind - Member
It's got to go somewhere. Not convinced this is a good site, geologically, though but that aside, they're spot on that perception is as important as reality, in terms of attracting/putting off visitors.

Missing the fact that a large proportion of it and the expertise and facilities to deal & process it are all ready there?

Is it because I've studied just a teeny bit about radioactivity for my undergraduate project that I always fail to be alarmed by it?

It seems that radioactivity is a big scary monster to most people.

I worked out that I'm irradiated with around 1400 millisieverts per year.

I feel that radiation is a big scary monster.

The lake district.... soon

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What do you mean "soon" - have you been to Whitehaven?

What ever geographical location is chosen can I propose we build a scum/sink village on it.

No need to build one, Cleator Moor is there already

Steady now, Cleator Moor is home to some.

Ennerdale is just not the right place. Why don't they just drop it all into Wastewater, it's deep and it will be a few years before anyone will notice.

Having passed through cleator moor not sure if they would notice.

I'm glad the stw committee fir managing the UK radiological waste has been assembled what'd is your answer. As the waste already exists there are no cop out answers acceptable. We need to do something about it.

Ok Hodge Close?

So long as there is a huge comedy Arrow stuck in the ground pointing at it, I'm happy.

Is it because I've studied just a teeny bit about radioactivity for my undergraduate project that I always fail to be alarmed by it?

I also studied radioactivity as part of my degree. One of the areas of study were the plans for an underground repository in Cumbria.

Unlike you, I am alarmed by it.

mikewsmith - Member

Missing the fact that a large proportion of it and the expertise and facilities to deal & process it are all ready there?

If the public connect Lake district with nuclear dump, that's likely to deter people. Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. And it's an area that lives and dies on tourism- 12000 jobs in the park alone.

Not taking this into account would be missing the point, no? You can't just assume people are rational and informed.

We need to do something about it.

HGV, gaffer taped to keep the nastiness in. Drive it Slough, park up and walk away.

Done

Wrap it up in the glass and concrete and stainless steel (as it will be anyway) and drop it in a subduction zone on the ocean floor. Gets sucked in to the mantle.

^^ this, really this^^

Lake District soon to be an underground

They'll be burying the lake district???????

Can we merge this with the thread on [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/anyone-heard-of-neds-atomic-dustbin ]Ned's Atomic Dustbin[/url]?

Northwind, 12,000 sounds low. According to the google 22,400 people work in the nuclear industry in the North West.

Wrap it up in the glass and concrete and stainless steel (as it will be anyway) and drop it in a subduction zone on the ocean floor. Gets sucked in to the mantle.

Aye, 'cos the casing will withstand the grinding pressure of being trapped between two continents, and if the case does break, oceanic circulation won't spread it globally. Whose subduction zone did you have in mind - Japan? Chile?
Working in the local secondary school (Cleator Moor kids are lovely - all of 'em - fact), we've been involved in a lot of consultation - which as Mikewsmith said has been extensive.
Question 1 is whether or not it's needed.
If it's been established that it is, then it's the sensible location. They've been studying the geology for years - I'm looking at a section of a rock core from the project on my desk now.
There's a lot of folk here bleating about "Oh no, not the beautiful Lake District" etc, etc. If you're young and you live here, you have a different view. It's a working landscape, shaped over thousands of years by industry. We need jobs and a future. The surest way to destroy the Lake District is to wrap it cotton wool, so that the only people who can afford to live here are second homers and those moving in with a massive pension pot, earned elsewhere.
I'm not pro the repository, but don't just setimentally bleat on about it because you enjoy coming here for a weekend once in a while.
Tourists will see nothing of it and it's not like it's waste that isn't already sat around 'in' the Lake District.

boxelder has the truth of it - but then again I'm another local...

The human race will be extinct by the time the geology causes a problem.

In which case **** it

Being more sensible, boxelder is saying some good stuff.

In which case * it

* = bury?

It wasn't the word I had in mind, but the same result.

msjhes2 - Member

Northwind, 12,000 sounds low. According to the google 22,400 people work in the nuclear industry in the North West.

The 12000 is just in the national park so comparing that with the entire north west region is obviously going to give uncomparable figures.

The Lakes is a very wonderful place with loads of nice folk in it.

BUT

There is also a significant minority of nasty corrupt and evil folk in places and positions of influence and authority. Many public projects in my neck of the woods (Broughton in Furness) are attempted by bullying, threats, lies and malfeasance and not by consensus and agreement with the people who own the land involved. The authorities with power to curtail these activities bend over backwards to minimise the effect of any action on the wrong doers, and other councillors and worthies turn a blind eye and do nothing. If you, as an individual, try and do something to stop unlawful behaviour by these folk, you are made to feel very uncomfortable. It can be a shit place

Yes, it's a beautiful place but there is a nasty dark side to it.

Perhaps it is getting what it deserves!

..............and I weep for it because I am deeply attached to it.

billyboy -

If you, as an individual, try and do something to stop unlawful behaviour by these folk, you are made to feel very uncomfortable. It can be a shit place

If it's unlawful, take it to the Police. Everywhere has wide boys and bullies. You're not really suggesting that a few bullying councillors can get the green light for a nuclear repository?

There is also a significant minority of nasty corrupt and evil folk in places and positions of influence and authority.

In fairness, that could apply pretty much anywhere....