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Grass is damp apparently!!!!


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 10:54 am
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Better than a broken arm/leg?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:01 am
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Well kids do need to injure them selves at some point, but the chance of anyone breaking arm/leg is surely so small to be unimportant.

A decent set of trainers will make sure they dont slip and as most all they'll do is scratch elbows/knees.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:07 am
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Better than a broken arm/leg?

Just a minute I've reread your post and its actually a joke ?

I think ?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:08 am
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A decent set of trainers will make sure they dont slip

WTF is wet grass different in your area to the rest of the world?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:08 am
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I don't think it's H&S. More like fear of liability. Two weery different sings.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:09 am
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I imagine they cancelled it so the dads don't embarrass themselves in the dad's race ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:09 am
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More like fear of liability

Yes, I wonder how many parents see where theres blame theres a claim.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:10 am
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Working on the other side where by I have to do the risk assesments and sign them off you would not believe the things that parents have threatened and tried to sue us for. Getting wet building rafts on a lake and then paddling them. A scratch from a rock river scrambling- I mean scratch that did not even require a plaster. post traumatic stress from going caving. it was a huge cavern 50 m long and did not even require crawling at any point. This is despite the 50 pages they recieved explaining each activity, the risks and posssible injuries and signing to allow their child to go.
Sadly many parents would and do sue the school/authority for injuries sustained if the grass was too wet and someoen was injured. I suggest you get angry at the parents who make the schools be so paranoid rather than school. I am sure you would rather have the school buy books than spend money defending a claim from a parent.
It is poor but the schools are reacting to what parents do and also see it as overkill but sadly this is the reality we operate in.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:10 am
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post traumatic stress from going caving

You have got to be kidding?

Even if a kid didn't enjoy something they'd be reassured and that would be the end of it.

Gulf-War veterans had an uphill struggle getting their REAL post traumatic stress recognised.

FFS.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:16 am
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It is poor but the schools are reacting to what parents do and also see it as overkill but sadly this is the reality we operate in.

Completely agree. It's a lot easier to blame 'elf and safety gawn mad though.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:17 am
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Kids sports day cancelled. H and S strikes again

You are wrong, but thanks for calling. As others have said it will be an issue of liability due to the possible threat of litigation.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:19 am
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It's a sad state of affairs IMHO, I understand the risks and it's the idiotic compensation culture that's backed schools and such like into this corner! I'm waiting for the precious premiership footballers to come out with, we can't play in the rain next!!!


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:20 am
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It is simply really sad that the kids won't get to enjoy their day.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:22 am
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And therefore jamie that's surely to do with the kids health and safety???


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:24 am
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My eldest sports day was cancelled on Wednesday for the same reason, another school didn't cancel. From the other school we transferred someone with a bad fracture and dislocation of their wrist. So yeah one big joke.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:24 am
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A decent set of trainers

+1

Told HT that my boy would be wearing proper trainers for PE not the carpy plimsolls they want them to wear.
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He told me that they were part of the uniform and he must wear them.

He is wearing proper trainers at PE despite us having letters home about uniform standards.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:27 am
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From the other school we transferred someone with a bad fracture and dislocation of their wrist.

And were the injuries caused by the slightly damp grass?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:27 am
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slightly OT- Surely Javelin throwing is abit of a H&S minefield- how do you risk asses that?!

Drac I broke my wrist at school. At what point should children learn their limits along with risk? Our school also used to let pupils learn how to ride geared motorbikes in the grounds. Sadly I bet thats been stopped.

I'd rather have the risk of injury thanks.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:28 am
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Mastiles has hit it on the head. It's the children I feel sorry for. They won't care if it's wet, slippy, whatever. In fact if it's muddy, all the betterer!

Mrs C. is a primary teacher and as Junkyard says, the risk assessment forms are a joke, they really are. They can't take the pupils anywhere without filling them in and some parents *will* kick off with the smallest of reasons. No wonder schools err on the safe side. Sad, it really is.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:29 am
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And were the injuries caused by the slightly damp grass?

Yes she slipped on it during one of the races. Still it was an accident but just an example of why it could happen. I would of been happy though for my daughter's sports day to go ahead. It's now been cancelled altogether.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:30 am
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Drac I broke my wrist at school. At what point should children learn their limits along with risk? Our school also used to let pupils learn how to ride geared motorbikes in the grounds. Sadly I bet thats been stopped.

I agree as I said it's just an example that they can slip, someone at the school had to make a call if it wasn't worth the risk of increased chance of injury or to go ahead anyway.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:32 am
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He is wearing proper trainers at PE despite us having letters home about uniform standards

Setting a good example there about following dress codes. "Crappy" plimsoles are perfectly adequate for children's PE lessons.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:32 am
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Setting a good example there about following dress codes. "Crappy" plimsoles are perfectly adequate for children's PE lessons.

Yeah but he wouldn't look niche.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:33 am
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Good point Drac. Didn't think about the fashion angle.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:34 am
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Much better kids die before their parents from morbid obesity than risk slipping over on some grass...


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:35 am
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I'm waiting for the precious premiership footballers to come out with, we can't play in the rain next!!!

Footballers wear studs though, so slipping is not an issue. Which raises an interesting point. One could argue that since most kids only have normal everyday trainers they are not properly equipped. Grass spikes would be fine but not a lot of kids have them. Normal trainers are pretty lethal on wet grass, no?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:36 am
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I won the 400, 200, 75 and 75 relay wearing Levis' fashion trainers!

I was ace!

Go Tigers!


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:36 am
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Mind you.....on my last post...

I can't remember a time in my life where my Mum had a go at any teachers, used the word 'claim'...all I remember her saying is 'oh you silly bugger. Again? Let me get my coat and I'll run you upto A&E' ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:36 am
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Much better kids die before their parents from morbid obesity than risk slipping over on some grass...

Yeah they all will be the size of Buddha from missing one day of exercise.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:37 am
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Maybe there'll come a time when schools can't be ar5ed with away trips and sports? Is Wii OK?


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:40 am
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I'm worried about the emotional trauma suffered by the other kids in Bruneep's class being forced to wear those mongy plimsolls while cool kid littlebruneep's allowed to wear the latest Nike Air SuperKing with pump technology and active rebound stripes.

I'd be sueing bruneep for the counselling they'll all need in later life.

(Ps: Adidas Gazelles are rubbish for sprinting; on the plus side I was so slow everyone got plenty of time to see how stylish I looked)


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:42 am
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Strangely never had one incident in eight years of coaching primary school kids football, and they usually only wore studs for matches.

Javalin - you having a laugh grandad, it's foam pipe'alin nowadays.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:43 am
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aye foam tubes that go further behind the kid on a windy day. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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Javalin - you having a laugh grandad, it's foam pipe'alin nowadays.

No javelin? - you'll be tell me next that they've banned archery & shot put too


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:45 am
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Don't London fixie riders wear those downy (as my young boy would say) plimsols.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:45 am
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Our school do Shot putt with bean bags


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:46 am
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No javelin? - you'll be tell me next that they've banned archery & shot put too

No no I think they still hold the 1000 metre Apple on the head archery competition. Shot put I believe has been replaced by the bean bag.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:48 am
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oldgit. Are you serious? Re the Javelin.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:48 am
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Hope we don't get any drizzle in 2012.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:48 am
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Pretty sure Hora. So on a windy day you could record -100M throw.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:50 am
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It is all a u****ing joke isn't it?

What is wrong with children taking risks and learning from them?

When I was I kid we jumped in rivers, climbed trees, slid down the 'death slide' at a local rocky crag, climbed the rocky crag, played dare games with real darts, had an air rifle and high power catapult. We fell, we hurt ourselves, had a laugh, ran home to mum, got attacked by dogs, smashed faces open in bike crashes, fell through windows.

But it is all learning. Take away risk and you take away much of childhood.

But as has been said above, it is the bandwagon 'where there's blame...' parents who are too blame, not the schools that are scared to fart.


 
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Sorry bruneep I appear to be repeating everything you post ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
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Yeah they all will be the size of Buddha from missing one day of exercise.

Errmm - that's not the brightest of statements is it? It's the whole PE/H&S conflict thing here - worrying about minor injuries and so keeping kids from doing exercise. It's killing our youth.


 
Posted : 16/07/2010 11:53 am
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Even the French army will be better than ours man-for-man in the future ๐Ÿ™


 
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