[Closed] Kids sports day cancelled. H and S strikes again

On all the advice posted so far I must remember to put a load of red and White tape around the lawn when I get home! Keep the little ****ers from claiming off their old man! 😉

Notes from a PE teacher...

H & S is always to be considered, but the fact that [i]some[/i] children are actively discouraged from participating in curriculum PE by their parents because it's too cold, or too wet, or too sunny, or too foggy (I kid you not) is the one of the reasons children don't understand risk anymore. How can we expect children to assess their own welfare safely if all their parents do is bleat about the welfare of their little darlings.

I say that as a man without children at present; I'm sure I will protective when I'm lucky enough to be a parent, but mollycoddling children does more harm than not.

I'm aware that if this was Mumsnet I'd be hunted down and executed, but seriously!?! I learnt as a kid that if I didn't run around when it was cold, I'd die. So I ran. Likewise, if it was wet, I'd take a towel so I could have a shower after getting covered in mud. Some parents won't even let their kids do that!

Rant over. I'm off to throw a discus at some Yr 8's...

Bit of an aside but fear of litigation is killing Scouting imo, the amount of forms and certificates that need to be completed for simple activities is ridiculous and putting lots of potential leaders off.

petesgaff I remember when it was particularly snowy, cold or, raining or all three our P&E teacher relished taking us out.

Once I produced a carefully created note excusing me from cross country in a blizzard. I still had to go out ....in my shoes 😆

fek me when it started to rain at our bairns sports day last week you would have thought it was napalm that was falling the way some parents reacted.

What is it with parents these days? (As with others, I don't blame the school for this, they're only seeking to fend off greedy, grasping, welfare sponge barrack room lawyers).

When I was seven we were being made to run 5K followed by a 30 minute swim several times per week. That was on top of rugby/football/hockey/cricket/athletics training (depending on the season), general gym and whatever other sports we chose to partake in.

I don't remember more than a handful of kids at school being fat either.

Has anyone seen the Brian Glover [PE teacher] scene in Kes?

Our PE lessons weren't that soft 🙂

Setting a good example there about following dress codes. "Crappy" [s]plimsoles[/s] plimsolls are perfectly adequate for children's PE lessons

Thanks for that, so it won't harm his feet in any way with his collapsed foot arch. 🙄

We're trying to bring our little one (nearly two) up to be as "tough" as possible - no fear of the sea or waves (or getting a bit chilly), happily walks 2-3 miles and is very active and happiest outdoors.

He gets the odd knock from falling over (he fell out of the wheelbarrow I was pushing him in on Monday - oops!) and we always feel terrible about it at the time but as long as there's no silly dangers about, we're happy.

This H&S throttled society can naff right off.

When I was seven we were being made to run 5K followed by a 30 minute swim several times per week. That was on top of rugby/football/hockey/cricket/athletics training (depending on the season), general gym and whatever other sports we chose to partake in.

DaveGr - Member

When I was seven we were being made to run 5K followed by a 30 minute swim several times per week. That was on top of rugby/football/hockey/cricket/athletics training (depending on the season), general gym and whatever other sports we chose to partake in.

Right, when I was three I had to climb to the top of the hill, chop some wood for fire, cycle to school in three foot snow, score a century in cricket AND finish running a marathon before I'd even started it !!!

That must have been character building.

That's how it was at my school and many like it so hold fast on the disbelief princess.

I'm waiting for the precious premiership footballers to come out with, we can't play in the rain next!!!

When out school pool was out of action a parent offered theirs neglecting to mention it was unheated and this was in November; teacher made us go in. Not that our pool was great as it was detached from the changing rooms so we had to walk outside in our trunks to the pool in sub zero temperatures at times.

Pete you'll be able to clarify this then! A mate who's a pe teacher was telling me he has to use you tube videos to show how a scrum is set in rugby, therfore removing the need for him to actively place his hands anywhere near the kids!! I was amazed. You're a pervert before you've even started these days if that's the case!

Errmm - that's not the brightest of statements is it? It's the whole PE/H&S conflict thing here - worrying about minor injuries and so keeping kids from doing exercise. It's killing our youth.

Where are they stopping them all together then or are just talking shite.

A couple of weeks ago I stood under an umbrella as it was raining, watching my 11 year old son play cricket at school - they were hoping it would only be a short shower and wanted to finish the match. Full hard ball too.

No problems, but then he's at a private school and tbh its more like when I was at school as far as sport goes. Plus he's been playing full contact rugby for a few years already.

But I agree with others, it says more about the parents than anything else - and I just can't imagine the parents I know sueing the school when its 'normal' behaviour and risks have been reviewed.

The good thing is......the children that have no barriers in the future will stand our head and shoulders above the rest.

uplink - Member

Has anyone seen the Brian Glover [PE teacher] scene in Kes?

My school was similar(in the late 80s), albeit with a proper (rugby) ball -none of that poncey round ball stuff-.

We had the benefit of these very much 'old-school' chaps who made Brian Glover in KES look soft:
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I think we had training cancelled once in 7 years -the field was water-logged and the pitches were getting too cut-up which might spoiled the up-coming 1stXV and 2nd XV games. Of course, when it was frozen we just wore trainers & not studs.

We had a match cancelled once due to icy conditions and fog -it was an away game- probably at some poncey private school 😉

Interestingly, the school always did well at rugby, cricket, track & field and even football when it eventually sneaked in.

My PE teacher hit me round the head with a trainer after finishing the school XC trials, got round quick so he though Id cheated.
I was his star county XC boy within the month.

I can even recall being made to bail out the water on a flooded football pitch before the games lesson.
Ironically I think they make parents buy gumshields for their kids (we had to) as if that's ever going to see any action.
Which brings me to boxing with F off heavy leather gloves. no gum shields no helmets and the PE teacher smoking a pipe at the ring side. I can still see the green tin waste paper bins filled with bloody toilet paper after boxing.

Sheer brilliance!! My cousins sports day never happened as it wasn't seen as fair. They went for some bizarre non competitive affair instead so as not to upset the kids who are rhubarb at sports. Seriously what the hell is that about??? Shoe on the other foot, why not cancel exams? As it isn't fair on those kids who are not that academic.

Completely agree with mastiles 2nd post..

We are growing a society of fat inept adults !

Where are they stopping them all together then or are just talking shite.

I might answer when you learn to write a full sentence in English without missing words out.

Kids are getting fatter - fact
H&S is getting sillier - fact
Sports Day is considered "too competitive" in most schools - fact

Any more facts you need?

ds are getting fatter - fact
H&S is getting sillier - fact
Sports Day is considered "too competitive" in most schools - fact

Conclusive.

I can't be bothered reading all that, so what ever anybody says, they're wrong and I'm right ok? It was much better when we all had Polio,TB, rickets and cholera etc and dogs ran down the street with strings of sausages between their teeth, you could leave your front door open and people would sneak in and leave cakes for you and postmen were chirpy, and would help you reroof your tithe cottage before continuing on their round rather than being the feral parcel thieving ba**......... oh you know what? **** it all 🙂

I say kill 'em all to death with [s]plimsoles[/s] plimsolls...

probably at some poncey private school

But they tend to be the toughest places!

"But they tend to be the toughest places"

Hmmm, not really, that's certainly the myth that public schools and a lot of ex public scholastics like to promulgate, but none of the ones I or my brother and sister attended were at all like that.:)

I can't wait to manage one of these kids who've never been told they've failed at something.

They're going to have a hard and short probationary period.

jahwomble - Member
I can't be bothered reading all that, so what ever anybody says, they're wrong and I'm right ok? It was much better when we all had Polio,TB, rickets and cholera etc and dogs ran down the street with strings of sausages between their teeth, you could leave your front door open and people would sneak in and leave cakes for you and postmen were chirpy, and would help you reroof your tithe cottage before continuing on their round rather than being the feral parcel thieving ba**......... oh you know what? **** it all

You should have said END OF, then it'd all be over.

If I'd thought for a moment that typing "end of" actually would cause it to end, I would have done :)dead horse, flogging of 🙂

Any more facts you need?

I'd like some more actually. Like, where are the references to back up those claims? I want stats, citations and.. well - facts 🙂

Lol@ jahwomble btw 🙂

Kids are getting fatter - fact
H&S is getting sillier - fact
Sports Day is considered "too competitive" in most schools - fact

Any more facts you need?

The first one is a fact... The other two are opinion.

tiger_roach - Member

probably at some poncey private school

But they tend to be the toughest places!

Well, I occasionally encounter people from schools who played rugby against our (state) school. The common consensus is that we played, ahem, 'robustly'. I'd never really noticed as it was normal to us.

Public schools are traditionally good at rugby, are they not?

The other two are opinion

Nah. Someone out there is scientifically measuring the silliness of H & S right now. They draw graphs and everything. 🙂

Supposedly, Personally I was bloody c**p 🙂

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I found this graph of ostrich growth.
There's a well known correlation between ostritches and H&S silliness, so it should be a reasonable substitute.

LOL @ Oldgit - I remember boxing like that too 😆

I also have vivid memories of being tackled (and by tackled I mean full tilt running shoulder in the ribs take down) by the 6' 16 stone PE teacher during a rugby session when I was about 12 and small for my age. I also vividly remember standing on his head [i]by accident[/i] in a ruck later in the game. Twas character building 😉

kids these says are having touble standing up for themselves with all this 'softly softly' approach..they 'cry' at the very least thing that doesnt go their 'way'.. i had one kids in 'tears' today just because he only had 1 go of a cricket match... then an older child sent him off(wen yer out yer out he said)...but the younger kid was heartbroken ... 😥
bring back the gud ole days jesus... as kids we went on great adventures clambering over high rocks, riding scrambler motorbikes up on the moors -dirt tracks. taking my donkeys for walks.. out all day saturday/sunday...but now all kids do is sit in playing computers and not physically getting out there and learning about the great outdoors... couch potatoes.... parents are smothering their kids too much... kids shud be playing out in all weathers (harden their little souls up i say !

In 2002, a London primary school banned youngsters from making daisy chains, in case they picked up germs from the flowers.

South Tyneside District Council cut down six chestnut trees to stop children playing popular playground game conkers in 2004.

Last year, an average of 10 schools a week adopted clip-on ties, after rumours that guidelines stated knots posed an injury risk.

Last week, visitors to the Aqua Splash Festival in Leicestershire had to remove swimming goggles over fears straps could snap in their face.

Now those are facts and they are very silly.

And for the competitive bit yes it's the Sun but...
[url= http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1316173/Too-risky-sports-day-is-scrapped.html ]Silly story[/url]

Nothing like a great big dollop of generalisation eh elaine?!

Our street is full of kids playing out all day long. And on summer evenings the air is heavy with the roar of illicit motorbikes buzzing up and down footpaths being dangerous and annoying people. Ah, what a wonderful sound.

South Tyneside District Council cut down six chestnut trees to stop children playing popular playground game conkers in 2004.

Lies.

Mat, that's one school in that article. And their field was not up to scratch because it was full of holes. I'd not want to be doing races on a field full of holes. It also says they are going to fix it and have a sports day next year.

Christ for an intelligent bloke you don't half manipulate and twist stories. I'm not sure I'd trust you to read my phone number back to me!

Well we pride ourselves in making our kids outdoor junkies. Boring walks, cycling, rock climbing, no swimming in rivers mind (I hugely dislike kids doing that), camping (3times in last 5 weeks), its all good, and they're only 8 and 5. And in two weeks 8 yr old girl is off on a footy course she won at derby county, never thought she'd want to do it but is well up for it!

In 2002, a London primary school banned youngsters from making daisy chains, in case they picked up germs from the flowers.

This was, I understand, due to the proximity to an area frequently used by dog owners to 'empty' their pets.

South Tyneside District Council cut down six chestnut trees to stop children playing popular playground game conkers in 2004.

Yes! A (singular) silly example

Last year, an average of 10 schools a week adopted clip-on ties, after rumours that guidelines stated knots posed an injury risk.

In response to the then current 'trend' of kids grabbing kids ties as they ran past, almost throttling them and causing neck injuries.. NOT because knots are dangerous per se. A reasonable response I would suggest as long as it was invoked in conjunction with a disciplinary policy to stamp out the dangerous 'game'.

Last week, visitors to the Aqua Splash Festival in Leicestershire had to remove swimming goggles over fears straps could snap in their face.

I'd love to see the reference to that. I suspect as above it's a response to the dangerous 'game' kids have started playing where they grab their 'mates' goggles and snap them back in their face. As above response.

Now those are facts and they are very silly.

So no.. They still aren't facts.