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People like the man he confronted will not change because somebody pulls them up on their behaviour.
He probably will think twice before he does it again, TBF.
and I responded with "thats because you're a selfish prick
Is there a chance he honestly misheard you for another word starting with P and including a K and I?
Superb thread. Well done all.
Is it worth getting into a fight about a parking space? Probably not.
Is it worth arguing the toss on an internet forum about it? Almost certainly yes. 😀
Is there a chance he honestly misheard you for another word starting with P and including a K and I?
I did wonder if this was the case Cha****ng, it occurred to me this morning. I did ask the police what word/s I'd been accused of using, but apparently they can't repeat it.
Dark Side, can you not understand that some people just don't like being told what to do by someone who A - doesn't have the authority to do so, or B - presents themselves as a self righteous sort? Can you understand why your attitude might have antagonized the bloke who may have been having a bad day perhaps?
I'm sure we all do things each day that others don't like (e.g. briefly cycling on the pavement or letting our kids behave a bit too boisterously in a restaurant) but they're hardly crime of the century are they? Let it go man!
Okay so sounds like in this instance the guy wasn't the nicest chap but you need to be careful out there. I know quite a couple of people who would have punched your lights out without hesitation the moment you called them a prick!
Child spaces are only there because they know that parents spend more than people with no kids. It has F-All to do with making it easier/safer for parents.
I use them on occasions when I don't have Jnr FD in the car.
I'm still wondering how the police traced you to your address ?
In the OP you said you had parked elsewhere, and were on foot when the argument happened, and then the other guy drove off and you went into the shop. So how did the police know which door to knock on ?
In the OP you said you had parked elsewhere, and were on foot when the argument happened, and then the other guy drove off and you went into the shop. So how did the police know which door to knock on ?
Reported by a witness who saw where the car was?
In the OP you said you had parked elsewhere, and were on foot when the argument happened, and then the other guy drove off and you went into the shop. So how did the police know which door to knock on ?
My wife had parked in a bay with no car either side of us, and he had to drive past our car to leave the car park. Its possible he saw my wife locking the car as we walked across the car park, or saw the child seats in the car and made an educated guess.
outofbreath - Member
In the OP you said you had parked elsewhere, and were on foot when the argument happened, and then the other guy drove off and you went into the shop. So how did the police know which door to knock on ?
Reported by a witness who saw where the car was?
I'm sorry to disappoint you outofbreath, its clear from your earlier assertions you are desperate for there to be more to it than my version of events. The only witness was my wife, and she is not the kind of person that would support me lying to the police if I had been physically threatening or using racist language. I'm guilty of nothing more than childish name calling and perhaps sticking my oar in where I shouldn't. Sorry.
The police didn't accuse me of anything, they said the driver had called them, didn't want it to go any further but asked them to have a word with me about using racist language. Once they saw my reaction and spoke with my wife, they left within I'd say 2 minutes at most.
This is headed for classic thread status. Perfect Friday-close-to-Christmas mid-morning work internet fare. Thank you all.
I want to know how the family space-taking random stranger prick character in all this would be viewed had he been carrying a woodburning stove (or supplies for it) to his car.
I often pull people up about it, and always ask why they feel the need to put kids in danger of being run over. normally does the trick.
Oh come on, if someone said that to me I would laugh, not that I would park in one of those spaces anyway. But really, putting your kids in danger of being run over? I remember when they didn't have such spaces in supermarket car parks, kids did not get routinely run over, perhaps parents took more responsibility for their kids safety then.
[quote=2tyred ]This is headed for classic thread status. Perfect Friday-close-to-Christmas mid-morning work internet fare. Thank you all.
I want to know how the family space-taking random stranger prick character in all this would be viewed had he been carrying a woodburning stove (or supplies for it) to his car.
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How old is your kid Op?
As you said you had to explain to them why the police came around so I'm guessing not toddlers or babies, in which case why was a parent and child space really needed?
special snowflake reporting for duty again @allan23
Seriously do you always have a habit of rubbing people up the wrong way for just the ones you have yet to meet, was there any need to try to insult someone ,isn't that what the OPs thread was getting at ....
never mind live and learn and forget those who have nothing better to do .. enjoy the Friday fun peeps
greentricky - Member
How old is your kid Op?As you said you had to explain to them why the police came around so I'm guessing not toddlers or babies, in which case why was a parent and child space really needed?
We have two kids. Our youngest is three and the eldest is eight. We were with the youngest when the altercation happened. It was the eldest who came to answer the door with me at home.
Unfortunately it seems to be becoming normal behaviour.
I've learnt a lesson over confronting selfish assholes, but if society at large wants to stop that sort of behaviour, how else will it change?
Look on the [s]dark[/s] bright side, your kids have learned about
antisocial behaviour
Police box ticking
The mis-use of "-isms/ists"
Language - what, where, when
All good experience in the end.
I'm sorry to disappoint you outofbreath, its clear from your earlier assertions you are desperate for there to be more to it than my version of events.
You say that as though somehow what you already admit to doing isn't already bad enough!
outofbreath - Member
I'm sorry to disappoint you outofbreath, its clear from your earlier assertions you are desperate for there to be more to it than my version of events.
You say that as though somehow what you already admit to doing isn't already bad enough!
I accept all the criticism for name calling, I deserve it and if I had not pulled him up initially he couldn't have suggested that he park the car and sort me out.
We have two kids. Our youngest is three and the eldest is eight. We were with the youngest when the altercation happened. It was the eldest who came to answer the door with me at home.
Fair enough
People get murdered over parking spaces
There are nutters about. It really isn't worth confronting random strangers over parking. You never know who you are talking to.
The head of the infamous Daniels clan "lost it" and chased 30-year-old Gerard Fullerton - who had never met him before - around Glasgow's Jordanhill area in his car in October last year.The 52-year-old then got out of his Volkswagon Golf and smashed Mr Fullerton's car windscreen with a metal bar because he thought that the driver had taken too long to turn into a junction
https://stv.tv/news/west-central/180674-jamie-daniel-jailed-for-road-rage/
I'm sorry to disappoint you outofbreath, its clear from your earlier assertions you are desperate for there to be more to it than my version of events.
You say that as though somehow what you already admit to doing isn't already bad enough!
I accept all the criticism for name calling, I deserve it and if I had not pulled him up initially he couldn't have suggested that he park the car and sort me out.
So specifically what "more to it" are you suggesting I would want? Isn't that plenty?
The problem with confronting someone who is doing something a bit dickish is that the person concerned will not believe they are in the wrong and no amount of reasoned argument (or name calling) will make them see differently.
A bloke nearly ran me over in Tesco car park a couple of months back making a beeline for the 'set down point' so he could park his new TT there. I guess he wanted to be close to the shop and not get his hairdresser-mobile potentially scratched.
When I asked him whether he'd seen me, explained that he'd almost run me over & perhaps he should drive a bit slower in the car park, the first thing he uttered was like something out of the playground - he said 'well maybe you should have watched where you were walking....'. There was no attempt at an apology, no 'sorry mate, I just didn't see you' - nothing. It was just immediately defensive & basically saying it was my fault.
I managed to stay away from going proper batshit mental at him, but explained that he really hadn't seen me & it was only because of the fact that I was looking where I was going that I was able to jump out of the way & avoid him driving into me.
His response - "you're a cheerful one, aren't you?! Maybe you should smile a bit more".
To which I did go a bit batshit mental & told him that I am normally quite a happy bloke, it's just when ****s in car parks almost run me over & then accuse me of it being my fault that I tend to stop smiling.
I was going to continue a tirade about how for someone so observant, he hadn't actually managed to park in a parking space, but was in a set-down point while appearing to not be actually setting down or picking up.....but I realised it was pointless. The dip-shit was never going to take heed. He was doing it his way & screw everyone else. The fact he'd almost run me over was neither here nor there; I was just a moany disturbance in his otherwise smug-**** infested day......I should have boxed him into the set-down point & stood there looking smug when he came back out - but life is too short....
So what "more to it" are you suggesting I would want? Isn't that plenty?
Apart from you accusing me of racism and physical violence here?
outofbreath - Member
"It's not like the op lost his temper, started screaming some racial epithet at the guy while frothing at the mouth, ripping his shirt off demanding a fight."Given the recipient of the abuse decided to call the police it seems highly likely that in the perception of the recipient that's exactly what happened.
The problem with confronting someone who is doing something a bit dickish is that the person concerned will not believe they are in the wrong and no amount of reasoned argument (or name calling) will make them see differently.
Isn't the real problem that we all have different standards of behavior and if we all habitually verbally attack people who are acting legally but we deem to be 'doing wrong' society dissolves into an aggressive free for all?
I regularly run down a lonely road with no pavement. I'm only on the road for 100m but frankly I have to admit it's a bit dangerous to me and to others. If someone pulls over and cheerfully says "I say old chap, isn't that a tad risky" that's one thing. Shouting 'prick' in my face is another.
I'd probably respond to either approach with a mea culpa, but others wouldn't and I or someone else might be genuinely scared by the latter approach. Neither approach would stop me doing it.
In this case a 3 year old was watching. Does that child now think the correct approach to someone doing something wrong is "sorting them out"? At very least they've learned the word 'prick' which isn't ideal.
Apart from you accusing me of racism and physical violence here?
Given the recipient of the abuse decided to call the police it seems highly likely that in the perception of the recipient that's exactly what happened.
Huh?
I suppose superciluosly lecturing people on a forum will sort them right out though oob? 😆
I guess he wanted to be close to the shop and not get his hairdresser-mobile potentially scratched.
Intolerance, nastiness, selfishness is everywhere, whether its people parking in the 'wrong' place then getting 'glowered at', or being nasty about the car someone drives, I find it best to let it wash over me, it beats having a heart attack over something that's extremely trivial.
The problem with confronting someone who is doing something a bit dickish is that the person concerned will not believe they are in the wrong and no amount of reasoned argument (or name calling) will make them see differently.
Isn't it actually that they KNOW they were in the wrong and they don't like being called out on it? That's typical animalistic human behaviour - it starts as toddlers but many adults never grow out of it.
"I suppose superciluosly lecturing people on a forum will sort them right out though oob?"
Fair point Yunki. I think this thread has benefitted enough from my wisdom now!
Merry Christmas, all. (Including DS)
Tis the season of goodwill (and frayed nerves) after all
Good on you OP. The only reason I don't challenge people is because I'm chicken. I do a good glower, mind. And the only reason that these people carry on doing it is because they don't think anybody really cares. They also often think that everybody else is at it and they'd be a mug not to join in.
Personally I always park right at the other side of supermarket car parks because I think I'm less likely to get a trolley dent, and I spend all day at a desk and need the exercise. I can't be doing with all that try and get as near to the entrance as possible stuff.
As for the "get a life" brigade - this is part of life.
And the only reason that these people carry on doing it is because they don't think anybody really cares.
I don't think that's the case to be honest, everyone thinks differently. Parking in a parent & child space isn't an issue to some people, others will think why should people with kids get special treatment, to others it's a massive big deal and they see it as an injustice so feel compelled to challenge it.
Some folk get wound up by things, others don't.
I was being accused of using a racist insult.
Are you sure they weren't asking about contributing to a Brexit thread?
It's marvellous that the debate here has been 90% about those parking spaces and 10% about the possible false accusation of racism.
+1 on how did the feds track you down?
+1 on how did the feds track you down?
Number plate I think, they asked if it was my car parked outside.
Reminds me of the time the police knocked to ask if the van on the drive was mine because someone had called them to say a toddler had been left alone in it! I think it must have been when I stopped outside the house to drop 3 bin bags into the utility room the day before.
In that case, if someone thought the wee guy was in danger, they should have knocked the house door to check before wasting police time. Any cases of wasting police time should be chargeable in my opinion; they're not there as some kind of school prefect!
theotherjonv » Then you tried.I know it's 'petty' but it's the thin end of the wedge.
What if the bloke got on and pushed to the front whilst muttering under his breath about all the immigrants getting in his way. Would you respond then?
What if he shouted 'Oi, all you ****s (insert epithet of choice) - get off my bus, this is for English people!' - would you do something then?
Missed that. You must've edited after I posted on the other page.
Is that a question to me personally or is it a rhetorical type stance. I assume the latter because of that quote you keep writing on threads like this.
But I'll bite... personally I used to have/still have a quick temper and if I let something petty get under my skin and someone doesn't like being told they're wrong (cos let's face it, no one does, do they) and respond aggressively, I'm all up for that. Which is absolutely insane given someone usually gets very hurt when fists and feet and whatever else on which you can lay your hands comes into play.
Tolerating racism and some dick that wants to push in are rather different. One is worth standing for, one isn't. It's for the individual to decide whether or not it's something for which they are willing to risk their life. Some folk will punch you down and stamp on your head just because you challenge their behaviour. Once you've seen something like that it can alter how you respond. It has **** all to do with knitting yogurt or whatever else the internet hard want to call it.
outofbreathIsn't the real problem that we all have different standards of behavior and if we all habitually verbally attack people who are acting legally but we deem to be 'doing wrong' society dissolves into an aggressive free for all?
Wrong. The opposite is true. We all know the difference between right and wrong. When we habitually ignore people who blatantly act ignorantly and antisocially, the aggressive pricks will have a free for all knowing that most people will turn a blind eye.
.....wasting police time should be chargeable in my opinion
It is.
Maximum of six months inside.
Number plate I think, they asked if it was my car parked outside.
How did the perp get your number plate though as you said in your op '[i]My wife, youngest daughter and I pulled in to the car park (all the family spaces were taken), parked and walked towards the shop[/i]
Was the perp watching you so knew which car you came from, or did he hang around and wait until you came out the store?
Was the perp watching you so knew which car you came from, or did he hang around and wait until you came out the store?
I'm not sure Gary_M, we parked in an area of the car park with no other cars immediately close, so I think he just clocked the only vehicle in the area. My wife was carrying my daughter as was asleep and I think perhaps he may have seen the lights flash as we walked away and locked it. The car also has child seats in the back, so its a good indicator it was ours.
Poor guy may have been in the middle of an armed robbery and he gets called a prick by a mountain biker... sad times.
I'm not sure Gary_M, we parked in an area of the car park with no other cars immediately close, so I think he just clocked the only vehicle in the area. My wife was carrying my daughter as was asleep and I think perhaps he may have seen the lights flash as we walked away and locked it. The car also has child seats in the back, so its a good indicator it was ours.
Which I guess must have been a fair bit away from the parent & child spaces, but a space the perp could see and he was paying attention to a random person locking their car in a busy supermarket car park, in the dark. Doesn't really add up.
Could you give us the name of the supermarket and postcode, I'd like to look at this car park 🙂
Stacks up... fast car and right next to the entrance. Definite armed robbery in progress.