[Closed] Just had the police around, I've been accused of racism

You should told the police that the guy touched you on your front bottom.

What you playing at agent007, a month ago you were complaining that wheelie bins made it difficult for people with pushchairs, now you seem to have less concern for them?

This has zero to do with this and everything to do with the fact that the OP had no idea why the stranger in the Porsche had parked in that space.

Maybe he was a prick, equally though maybe he had just dropped his hard of walking gran off at the store, maybe he hadn't realised what the space was (in a low slung car it's more difficult to see the symbol on the ground painted directly infront of the car), maybe his mobility isn't great and he needs extra space to open this doors and climb out of his car etc, etc.

So there's a multitude of reasons why the guy might have parked there and only one of these is that he's a prick. Yet the OP felt it more appropriate to wade in anyway, assume the worst and verbally abuse the guy! Nice work OP!

It's not like the op lost his temper, started screaming some racial epithet at the guy while frothing at the mouth, ripping his shirt off demanding a fight.

No, but whilst not going that far he certainly lost his temper enough to have started an argument that almost escalated into a fight. In front of his kids. Over what? A parking space he wasn't even using. Sound judgement there, definitely.

OP if you think I'm judging your anger management harshly just remember the old saying; it takes one to know one.

I agree with Ski. Unless it's a life threatening situation just don't get involved.

Unless you live an exemplary life, in which case go for it cos everyone knows right is might, right...

agent007

This has zero to do with this and everything to do with the fact that the OP had no idea why the stranger in the Porsche had parked in that space.

No it's quite clear, he was being a lazy selfish prick. Keep up.

equally though maybe he had just dropped his hard of walking gran off at the store,

He could have used the drop off point. But they are generally full of cars.

maybe he hadn't realised what the space was (in a low slung car it's more difficult to see the symbol on the ground painted directly infront of the car),

Is it still difficult to read the signage from a low slung car? Because virtually all these spaces have numerous signs at head height explaining what they are.

maybe his mobility isn't great and he needs extra space to open this doors and climb out of his car etc, etc.

You mean as if he was disabled? Perhaps he should park in the disabled spaces then.

So there's a multitude of reasons why the guy might have parked there and only one of these is that he's a prick. Yet the OP felt it more appropriate to wade in anyway, assume the worst and verbally abuse the guy! Nice work OP!

Nope. There's no multitude. Only the obvious. If you have children and you try to avail of parent and child spaces you'll see that about 30% of them are constantly taken up by piss takers.

(in a low slung car it's more difficult to see the symbol on the ground painted directly infront of the car)

maybe his mobility isn't great and he needs extra space to open this doors and climb out of his car [b]to have a fight with the OP[/b] etc, etc

I'm calling Taylforth on this one

Even when they see people acting in an ignorant anti social manner.

All that for parking poorly?

Perhaps if the other person was robbing the shop or hurling abuse at passing shoppers. Parking poorly is being a little inconsiderate but hardly the downfall of society.

A little perspective and winding of neck in would have saved a whole evening of annoyance for the OP, the bloke in the car and the police.

Somewhere that evening there was possibly a real crime committed that a couple of officers couldn't respond to because someone thought it was their right to insult someone else who was a little inconsiderate and it all escalated badly.

allan23

All that for parking poorly?

Perhaps if the other person was robbing the shop or hurling abuse at passing shoppers. Parking poorly is being a little inconsiderate but hardly the downfall of society.

It's not parking poorly. It's being inconsiderate. How would feel about someone pushing their way to the front of the queue at the cash point or till? Load of people boarding the bus in an orderly fashion and someone just pushes past....would you say something or just bemoan his poor queuing skills.

A little perspective and winding of neck in would have saved a whole evening of annoyance for the OP, the bloke in the car and the police.

The person parking inconsiderately is the one who really, REALLY, needs to get some perspective as he feels it's acceptable to waste police time in addition to being a prick.

A proven false accusation of racism should be treated the same as the offence itself. Its a cheap trick, wagered by spiteful, vindictive people. It wastes time & can ruin lives, & reputations.

+1

The misuse of parent and child spaces does annoy me, but I've just come to the conclusion that some people are just selfish cocks, and calling them out doesn't achieve much.. I'm pretty sure 911 boy will still be a selfish cock today.

"It's not like the op lost his temper, started screaming some racial epithet at the guy while frothing at the mouth, ripping his shirt off demanding a fight."

Given the recipient of the abuse decided to call the police it seems highly likely that in the perception of the recipient that's exactly what happened.

JimJam, shall I list perhaps 50 other possible reasons why he might have parked there and as you were clearly there and witnessed the whole thing, perhaps you could disprove those too?

You don't know why he parked there, neither do I but my point is jumping in and calling him a prick is simply assuming the worst. Perhaps the OP should have first asked the bloke what demons he may have been fighting that day before he passed judgement?

jimjam » Load of people boarding the bus in an orderly fashion and someone just pushes past....would you say something or just bemoan his poor queuing skills.

How would you handle that...?

agent007 - Member

JimJam, shall I list perhaps 50 other possible reasons why he might have parked there and as you were clearly there and witnessed the whole thing, perhaps you could disprove those too?

Yes, by all means concoct 50 possible excuses a selfish tosser might have on the tip of their tongue in case they get pulled up.

teasel

How would you handle that...?

Excuse me, there's a queue here? Too harsh perhaps?

Given the recipient of the abuse decided to call the police it seems highly likely that in the perception of the recipient that's exactly what happened.

Or he is a vindictive little sh*t who played the only card he knew would force a reaction?

Excuse me, there's a queue here? Too harsh perhaps?

And you believe that will change the person's behaviour?

What if they tell you to go and **** yourself and mind your own business; what then...?

Rusks, anyone?

teasel

What if they tell you to go and **** yourself and mind your own business; what then...?

Well obviously I phone the cops and report them for racist abuse 😆

🙂

Unless he was inciting hate/violence I'm at a loss at what the police would actually do. If someone called me a Scottish prick for parking in a parent and child space when I didn't have the kids with me then thats just an insult not inciting hate or violence.

Actually, the reason I asked is I knew someone that questioned a queue jumper. Q-Jumper responded in the manner I describe above and a fight ensued. The challenger of antisocial behaviour got 3 years.

That's a life ruined. Probably two, if all be told.

Perhaps the OP should have first asked the bloke what demons he may have been fighting that day before he passed judgement?

What demons are you fighting today, Agent007?

Too funny, keep it coming! Some Friday fun!

teasel
What if they tell you to go and * yourself and mind your own business; what then...?

Then you tried.

I know it's 'petty' but it's the thin end of the wedge.

What if the bloke got on and pushed to the front whilst muttering under his breath about all the immigrants getting in his way. Would you respond then?

What if he shouted 'Oi, all you *s (insert epithet of choice) - get off my bus, this is for English people!' - would you do something then?

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me"

If you're happy to share society with these sorts, can turn a blind eye, and can just go ride a bike instead of trying to improve it - good for you. Just don't expect someone to help when they come for you in the end. You yogurt weaving bike riding hippie who doesn't even pay tax and roads are for cars you ****.......

Yes, by all means concoct 50 possible excuses a selfish tosser might have on the tip of their tongue in case they get pulled up.

Wow, never before have I met someone who can 100% know what's going on in a strangers life, what sort of day that stranger is having having only just glimpsed them for a few seconds. Amazing, that's a rare talent you have there. Perhaps you should consider becoming a Psychic?

Family friendly policies are of course unfriendly to those of us without kids

However on my list of things to give a s*** about parent and child parking and people using them inappropriately is way down near the bottom

"Or he is a vindictive little sh*t who played the only card he knew would force a reaction?"

Yup, that's equally possible.

JimJam, shall I list perhaps 50 other possible reasons why he might have parked there and as you were clearly there and witnessed the whole thing, perhaps you could disprove those too?

Given the recipient of the abuse decided to call the police it seems highly likely that in the perception of the recipient that's exactly what happened.

Hmmm, just our of interest agent007... What kind of car do you drive?

"However on my list of things to give a s*** about parent and child parking and people using them inappropriately is way down near the bottom"

Significantly below angry abusive behaviour from vigilantes in car parks IMHO.

agent007

Wow, never before have I met someone who can 100% know what's going on in a strangers life,

And presumably this life drama, this "demon they are battling with" will somehow be alleviated by them being an inconsiderate prick and blatantly parking in a place that's designated to improve safety for our children and to make shopping with children easier.

I'll just repeat myself quickly but I used to make a point of doing what the OP did (minus the name calling, I just got called names) and virtually every time I pointed out the parent and child spaces were for parents with small children someone would blurt out some bullshit excuse - instantly. So when you talk about the problems these people have as if they are tortured souls...

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I'm devastated

Get a grip, Mary.

As there seems to be some debate taking place over whether the OP had legitimate cause for making a fuss I'll add my twopenceworth..

It's been demonstrated on here before that my attitude can verge towards the belligerent if pushed and I make no bones about the fact..
You see those films about dangerous yoots that hang out in the shadier areas of town, those yoots that make you feel nervous if you accidentally find yourself walking through the estate late at night... that's me that is..
I'm not a violent man but I hang with violent men as the old song goes.. What I'm saying is that I'm not necessary gonna have the same values as many of you bedwetters..

When we had two kids under the age of three, I used to relish the opportunity to unleash some of the violent psychosis that years of relentless sleep deprevation had caused..

Skulking in the P+C parking area of the local Tesco was one of my favourite ways to unwind.. Maybe one of the kids had fallen asleep in the car on the drive there, Mrs yunki had taken the other into the shop, so I was left with 20 minutes of blissful peace and quiet.. I would sit on a bench smoking, one eye on my car and the sleeping child inside and the other eye scanning every vehicle that pulled up, waiting patiently like a predator stalking prey for the opportunity to uncoil and strike down with furious vengeance any prick that was arrogant enough to cross the line that I had drawn in the sand..
I never did get the opportunity to tear some selfish prick limb from limb, always convincing myself that the scumbag might have a legitimate reason for their inconsiderate activity..

I'm over it now.. we don't use the C+P spaces any more and I mostly get enough sleep.. but beware pricks, as I'm certain that there are other leopards on the prowl waiting for the opportunity to exercise their right to be hostile, waiting to demonstrate the harrowing truth of inconsiderate behaviour in it's purest and most destructive form

virtually every time I pointed out the parent and child spaces were for parents with small children someone would blurt out some bullshit excuse - instantly.

Do they have to give you a real excuse? Are you the police?

5 pages already,stw to the last.You got a mop for all that piss.

This has zero to do with this and everything to do with the fact that the OP had no idea why the stranger in the Porsche had parked in that space.

Except that last month you seemed very concerned about the difficulties for parents of young children, created by inconsiderate people. This month, not so much.

agent007

Do they have to give you a real excuse? Are you the police?

I can park in the disabled bays if I fall off my bike and hurt my leg, isn't that right? That's okay?

What I'm saying is that I'm not necessary gonna have the same values as many of you bedwetters..

Heh

Only on the internet...

You had better believe it sucker!
I'm as meek as a kitten out there on the mean streets 😳

Regarding the Police & the racism accusation, I would try not to let it worry you, OP.
From the sounds of it, the Police quickly realised it wasn't a legitimate allegation & it was just a way for knob face to get back at you.

I grew up in Wembley which has a large mix of races. The 'race card' was drawn virtually daily by people with some kind of point to prove.......

Messing around in the classroom & sent to the head of year - obviously the teacher must be racist.
Glancing at a group of people across the road as you walk past - obviously a honky racist....
Bus driver catching someone trying to sneak on the bus without paying their far - bus driver clearly a racist bastard.....
Not giving a cigarette to someone in the street when they ask (erm, I don't smoke so don't have any cigarettes on me) - ****ing racist.....

I even got accused by a (hindu) bloke in my class of being racist because I was talking about Hanuman the monkey God. He said I was being disprespectful & racist referring to hindu gods as monkeys.....(google it, if you're not sure.....)

Used to hear this kind of crap on an almost daily basis.....

As for people parking in parent & child spaces when they don't need to. They should have their cars paintballed with special dog-turd paint balls.
And the cars that are parked in set-down points for longer than 2mins should be torched as a warning to others....

This is a great thread, hilarious some peoples yoghurt-weaving comments!

As a father with a young daughter, yes the parent and child spaces are great, they make things easier... do i actually need the space, probably not, but they make life that bit simpler, which isn't a bad thing in my mind, i have to carry my daughter, her medicine bag (being T1) and the host of shopping bags full, so being able to open a door and not worry you are going to hit someone elses car is a god-send (says the athiest).

I had a casual conversation with the security guard in Tesco once, and he basically said that was one of the main reasons, they get perhaps 5 people a week asking for CCTV where people have dented cars with doors or parking, having a decent number of child spaces helps them to, many children just fling car doors open with no consideration for car next to them, plus families unsurprisingly are the biggest spenders.

Stumpy01 +1.

I had an acquaintance who was an anti-social "prick". One day his beloved classic car got nitromorsed. What I found telling was that he'd been such an arse to so many people he had no idea who'd done it.

Edit, if you've got child locks, use them. If you have to let your kids out they can't damage other cars.

I'm mystified why someone would get in a fight with someone else over a parking space, inconsiderate yes but really not worth the bother. What's even more mystifying is that when the police came round to discuss, the op took a while to realise what they were talking about! You had an altercation with someone and forgot all about it? I must lead a sheltered life because had that been me it would have been on my mind all eveing.

[quote=Gary_M ]I'm mystified why someone would get in a fight with someone else over a parking space, inconsiderate yes but really not worth the bother. What's even more mystifying is that when the police came round to discuss, the op took a while to realise what they were talking about! You had an altercation with someone and forgot all about it? I must lead a sheltered life because had that been me it would have been on my mind all eveing.

People get murdered over parking spaces 😯

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4360674.stm

Supermarket parent/child spaces are discretionary not mandatory. Just park somewhere else and forget it - did you not enjoy the extra few metres walk, or do you see it as a two tier society where people with kids are somehow more important than folk without?

Most child spaces are next to a path, to get your kids to the shop safely.

when you have a full trolley, and two kids under 7, knowing they are walking next to me, on a path and not next to cars is one less thing to think about.

I often pull people up about it, and always ask why they feel the need to put kids in danger of being run over. normally does the trick.

Seems like a lesson learned for the OP. People like the man he confronted will not change because somebody pulls them up on their behaviour. They view the world as something that is there to benefit them and only them, self serving narcissists. Unfortunately it seems to be becoming normal behaviour.

I hold my hands up to the name calling, it was out of character and I acted like a petulant kid. I didn't jump right in with it, he told me he'd "park where he wanted, when he wanted", and I responded with "thats because you're a selfish prick" and I shouldn't have, its not the impression I want set for my kids at all.

I accept all the criticism for name calling, I deserve it and if I had not pulled him up initially he couldn't have suggested that he park the car and sort me out. I'll reiterate though, I didn't and wouldn't say anything that could be construed as racist and the accusation is even more laughable if you knew my family situation.

What's even more mystifying is that when the police came round to discuss, the op took a while to realise what they were talking about! You had an altercation with someone and forgot all about it?

Of course I recalled the argument, I absolutely did struggle to reconcile what was essentially two adults acting like kids with the police standing on my doorstep.