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Coconut, lol....loving the racial stereotyping...is coconut a reference to how 'your people' see you?...brown on the outsides, white on the inside...
(runs for cover)...
outofbreath - MemberIsn't the real problem that we all have different standards of behavior and if we all habitually verbally attack people who are acting legally but we deem to be 'doing wrong' society dissolves into an aggressive free for all?
Dunno, but in the example I gave blokie had almost run me over....my initial approach wasn't to 'verbally attack' him, but make him aware of what he'd done & yes, I probably was hoping for a small apology as some recognition that he'd driven like a dick....it was only his response that prompted me to get lairy.
If someone approached me as I got out of my car and said "did you see me there mate, you almost ran me over...?", I can guarantee you my immediate response would not be to turn it on it's head & accuse the person saying that of it actually being their fault.....but yeah, some people do have different standards of behaviour.....
Gary_M - Memberor being nasty about the car someone drives,
To be fair, after almost driving me over with it, I was hardly going to praise his choice of vehicle & the balanced selection of optional extras he'd lavished it with, was I?? 🙄
Gary_M - Memberit beats having a heart attack over something that's extremely trivial.
HA HA - so having someone almost drive their car into you is 'something that's extremely trivial' is it??
Would you not say something if it had happened to you?
HA HA - so having someone almost drive their car into you is 'something that's extremely trivial' is it??
No, and I didn't say that. I was referring to petty arguments over car parking spaces. However I can see you are easily wound up.
Gary_M - MemberHowever I can see you are easily wound up.
Yeah, probably.
stumpy01Dunno, but in the example I gave blokie had almost run me over....my initial approach wasn't to 'verbally attack' him, but make him aware of what he'd done & yes, I probably was hoping for a small apology as some recognition that he'd driven like a dick.
I had an eerily similar experience when someone in a white TT (doing about 45mph) almost ran me over in a Tesco car park. He hit the brakes and came within inches of my legs. Then blared the horn to which i gave the universal symbol for "wtf?"
He instantly went to defcon9, started revving the engine, screaming out the window how he was going to *ing murder me, cut my *ing head off calling me a ****. I could see he clearly would have tried to fight with me but I didn't rise to it. I figured if he did want to kick off inside the shop was preferable to the tarmac.
After I'd completed my shop I called the cops and recounted the incident, including the multiple threats to kill, gave them his reg. I never heard anything more about it. I followed it up with an email about a week after that. Again, nothing.
or being nasty about the car someone drives,
Car stereotyping works really well. Just now and then you meet an exception - I know someone with a Q7, he's paraplegic and it's one of the few normal cars he can roll up to in his wheelchair, stash the chair and drive away without help. I also know a Porsche owner and he's a guy on whom good well-intended pertinent advice is wasted. Check out the Porch owners (past and present) on this forum and see if it fits.
But I'll bite... personally I used to have/still have a quick temper and if I let something petty get under my skin and someone doesn't like being told they're wrong (cos let's face it, no one does, do they) and respond aggressively, I'm all up for that.
I don't mind being told I'm wrong. I mean it rarely happens 😉 but I care so little about most things (because at the end of the day they're not important really) so it doesn't bother me. Being being able to take judgement/criticism is a skill so many people lack; hence why our country seems to be chock-a-block with high achievers driving Audis who're absolute bellends.
Why not make a counter claim similar to his? Send the police round to the idiot's door. If everyone did that anytime these silly accusations are made the whole thing would end up as a farce, which is essentially what it is.
Absolutely no chance of a fight there, Jimjam, no-one can get out of a car if you really don't want them to.
Haven't read the whole thing but if you aren't prepared to back your words up with fists I'd be really careful mouthing off at people you don't know future. Could have ended a lot worse!
The fact he then reported you for racism is ridiculous on his part but some people just pull that card at anything
Tolerating racism and some dick that wants to push in are rather different. One is worth standing for, one isn't. It's for the individual to decide whether or not it's something for which they are willing to risk their life. Some folk will punch you down and stamp on your head just because you challenge their behaviour. Once you've seen something like that it can alter how you respond. It has **** all to do with knitting yogurt or whatever else the internet hard want to call it.
In my experience the likelihood of having someone punching you down and stamping on your head for pointing out (in an appropriate way) that they're behaving in a selfish and inconsiderate manner is pretty slim. Confronting the angry racist on a bus or train, more likelihood. Yes, it's up to the individual to decide if they think it's worth it, but again if as a society we're all going to sit around and tut about it but not actually do anything, then it'll never change.
The yogurt weaving slur was a pisstake about 'just chill and ride your bike', and was meant to be a humorous follow on to the Niemoller quote, that one day they'll be coming for the peaceful cyclists too. Nice that it makes me an internet hard man though - couldn't be much further from the truth. I'm a meek and sensitive sort but one that thinks we collectively need to grow a pair and start to face down this growing trend, even though it does make me frequently feel nervous about doing so.
EdukatorAbsolutely no chance of a fight there, Jimjam, no-one can get out of a car if you really don't want them to.
Yeah but if I'd made the decision to fight (as opposed to walk or run away) I'd let him out of the car, rather than some kind of door kicking competition.
As you don't mind taking criticism, Davidtaylforth, this...
hence why
...is just tautological bollocks. 😛
What I just don't get is that tho OP said that his daughter with him at the time was 3 years old, she was also asleep - presumably left in the car with his wife as sleeping 3 year olds are a little heavy to carry and tend to wake up once removed from a vehicle?
In which case why the OP's strong desire on this occasion to use the parent and child space anyway?
we collectively need to grow a pair and start to face down this growing trend, even though it does make me frequently feel nervous about doing so.
I agree. But we also need to be discerning in that stance and hold on to a modicum of perspective.
For sure. I'll admit here as a very mild mannered person I am inclined to approach these situations in a very even handed way, and if the other person is confrontational about it I'm extremely unlikely to escalate and more likely to shrug and walk away - either they're the sort of person that'll never see reason, or they're the sort that will in hindsight think 'yeah, he's right. I might not do it again'. Either way, at least you've given the latter a chance to happen.
And if he's a giant with a clear bad attitude then yes, discretion and valour maybe comes into play.
In which case why the OP's strong desire on this occasion to use the parent and child space anyway?
He didn't. He parked in another part of the car park. He did say all the P&C's were taken but didn't say he wanted one. He was being extremely public spirited in trying to ensure they stayed free for people who did need them.
presumably left in the car with his wife
Wife was carrying child, op was too lazy, plus he couldn't carry as he was looking for a fight 🙂
I do think there's a bit more to this than the op has told us though.
I have a story for most of these situtaions. Some very recent. I am not big but when I was younger and played football I did used to get in quite a few arguments, so being punched in the face and punching back doesn't really scare me tbh.
Anyhow
1) Doing my rehab from a major knee injury which basically made it difficult to walk for 18mths. I was riding my doad bike and a guy overtook me as I was indicating to turn right on a mini roundabout. He came so close he brushed past my outstretched arm.
I stopped and mouthed what the **** and he slammed the brakes on. I gave him both barrels for putting my life in danger. What looked like a giant got out of the car and his loudmouth woman got out too. I ended up in a bit of a scuffle with him (He was the physical aggressor). I was in full lycra, spds and off the bike wasn't really very stable at all even without my stupid shoes on. After a nurse came over, said she witnessed everything and offered her details. She also sorted all the blood from my bust nose which I didn't even realise I had. In the end I decided that it was a week before Christmas, my wife didn't like me riding on the roads anyhow and I just couldn't be arsed. I also though the guy was probably going to be waiting for the knock which can be as bad as the knock itself.
2) My daughter queues for the school bus. She gets there early and likes to get her seat. About 2wks went by when the same mother would arrive just before setoff, walk her daughter past my girl (And others) and just join the queue at the front. My daughter mentioned it so I pointed it out to the woman and said we were all queing and she was welcome to join the back. Some bloke started shouting at me that he had his daughter at the front and she was just joining her. To which I said he was also welcome to join her at the back of the queue. He then looked at everyone else (Mothers) and asked if anyone else had an issue and I was just being a knob to which the lilly livered mothers all said it wasn't a problem. Funnily enough she has never done it again. The guy, well he was old enough to be my father so I wasn't interested in physical stuff, especially in front of my daughter.
3) My son has been dealing with bullies for a few months now. Old friends who have matured quicker and have been making his life hell at his school and out of school at football. He made the mistake of telling a girl 'friend' what he thought of them on snapchat and funnily enough she screen shotted it and showed it to all these boys. My lad ends up with 7 boys around him at lunch time threatening to beat him up. Big lesson learnt regarding girls, messages and friendships for my boy. Anyhow it gets dealt with at school and I cant complain too much. But it continues at football whichi used to manage and would have cracked some heads together. However the coaches now are pathetic and by turning a blind eye, encourage the environment. On Saturday we had to drop my son off at football and then park up. When we got back, he wasn't right, he wasn't right through the game and at the end we waited for him to come over. One of the coaches who I dislike comes bounding over and tells me my son told him to eff off. No explaination, just said it and went off. So I ask my son whats going on and he tells me they were doing wrestling for a warm up (WTF), he got thrown to the floor by one of the bullies and another lad (Not a bully) accidentally kicked him in the head with his studs. My son is on the floor almost in tears with the bullies laughing at him and the coach just tells him to get up, to which my son told him where to go (Ie standing up for himself in the only way he can, a bit like the phone message). It was made worse by the fact the other coach noticed my son in pain and upset, came over and then the original coach then started showing fake concern. So I make my son apologise to the coach and the coach just grunted back which got my back up. It was time to sort things out (I had been instructed not to go around all the parents houses when I found out about this in the first place). I ended up right in the coaches face, told him if I ever see him condoning bullying, ignoring a kid in pain at football or tbh being nasty to my son I would deal with it and I wouldn't waste my time swearing at him. He tried to be a big man about it but every time asked him to do something about it he wouldn't. That's the things with bullies, they prey on people being quiet about things. When people are noisy and stand up for themselves they quickly back down.
Final part to the story is most of the bullies were stood watching with their dads (Most of them all play for the same team). I turned around and pointed every single one of them out and told them if I heard another mention of bullying either at football or school I would be turning up at their houses to discuss it with their dads in the same manner. All the dads did an about turn and dragged their little turds away with them as quick as they could.
Wow, that was like therapy getting that out. Its been quite stressfull dealing with bullying
I was in full lycra, spds
SPD's on a road bike, I'd have punched you too.
The guy, well he was old enough to be my father so I wasn't interested in physical stuff
I should hope not in a bus queue you perv. Ageist
Got bored, didn't read the rest 🙂
That was a good read; I was right there with you, man...!
🙂
Sorry gary, not sure of the correct term on road bikes.
Teasel, I could feel you there.
In which case why the OP's strong desire on this occasion to use the parent and child space anyway?
He didn't. He parked in another part of the car park. He did say all the P+C's were taken but didn't say he wanted one. He was being extremely public spirited in trying to ensure they stayed free for people who did need them.
No the OP's post was fairly clear in the way that it was written that when he arrived all the P+T spaces were taken so he parked elsewhere.
The likelyhood is that if a P+T space was free then he'd have parked in it, despite because of sleeping child and wife remaining in car then not really needing to use the space as intended i.e. to unload single or multiple children from a car.
Sounds like his own worse hypocrite!
[i]Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.[/i] Robert E. Howard.
despite because of sleeping child and wife remaining in car
Where did you read that bit, or have you just made it up?
Local supermarket child and dont give a shit parent area, next to staff smoking area and unlit due to broken light, more like the local dogging area than somewhere safe to unload children
I do challenge antisocial behaviour but my mantra is pick and chose your battles. Not much point challenging a ned - thats going to go nowhere and chose the issues that really matter to call folk out on.
Agent007 I think you've just exposed yourself as the delightful chap you really are.
Gary_M - Member
presumably left in the car with his wife
Wife was carrying child, op was too lazy, plus he couldn't carry as he was looking for a fight
I do think there's a bit more to this than the op has told us though.
Gary_M, I'm puzzled by you thinking there is more to it, I might see if my wife will post to verify I've been accurate in my description of events. I'm currently on crutches after a bad ankle break in the Alps at the Megavalanche, and numerous operations and early removal of metalwork due to infection, which means I can't walk unaided at the moment, I wasn't being lazy!
Agent 007, my wife and child were with me, which makes me even more embarrassed by my actions.
which makes me even more embarrassed by my actions.
Don't be too hard on yourself chap. You had the balls to stand up to selfish behaviour.
Let it go and move on 🙂
...or admit the truth that you called him a p*k* 😀
Are you Ronnie Pickering?
So when the OP pointed out he wasn't racist did the officers put the recruitment form away?