Just done a hostage rescue mission. Good fun, if a bit brief, felt a bit piratey. Yarrrrr
Matt
How'd you figure that out? Galnet local news at the station? Guess we made a difference after all 🙂
In small systems, low population, then it is possible for one or two people to make a big difference, so yeah, could easily have been down to us.
The stats are on INARA, though they are not always updated promptly as it requires someone with the INARA software to go into the system. Kuwembaa is my home system so I checked the status tab in the right hand panel. War happens when two factions have the same influence, at the end of the war the two sides are separated by a 5 point margin to the winner. Li Chotep are now out in front.
Matt
Cool.
The BGS has a certain nerdy appeal! That is one of the reasons I chose Kuwembaa as my home base. The populations are small and it is pretty out of the way, so not many other cmdrs are going to be around. I hadn't banked on Borann being within 30Ly.
Matt
So the Brave Sir Robin didn't work. Took an illegal black box mission, got melted by NPCs before I could pick it up. No bother, back again, in the hold and boosted off with no shields but my ass intact. And got picked off by a random commander when I dropped out of hyperspace.
Back to Garry, shield booster, military bulkheads and... Nothing. Nobody interested in me at all. Even annoyed an NPC with a bounty and they just buggered off.
I find NPCs have a sixth sense regarding load-outs. Just try running without any sort of missile defence and see how many NPCs are bristling with them.
Matt
I'm still grinding away to get Fed rank. I'm up to Lt Cmdr now.
I've been in Sol doing pirate massacre missions in Barnard's Star. They are actually pretty profitable once you gain good reputation with the factions handing them out. I turned in some overlapping missions last night for about 150mn credits and I could have made more but I was picking the high reputation rewards.
Combat ranking is going to be a bit of a grind though, I must have killed 200 ships and my combat rank went form 10% Master to 30% Master. At this rate its going to take about a year to get to Elite!
I'm just a couple of ranks behind. I find the missions I take are pretty good for moving up, but then I am doing them more the mission itself rather than just to increase rank. Petty Officer for me.
The combat rank is easily the slowest to increase. I was doing a mining mission for H2O2 and happened to find 53t of Low Temperature Diamonds. The 80+ million Cr shot my trade up by 20%, on the move from tycoon to elite.
Matt
Whatever you do; don’t do what I did and take a last quick pirate kill mission before logging off, and then only realise that it’s a wing mission when you open fire on your target and your world rapidly disintegrates by the light of laser beams, fire and plasma ☄️💥🔥✨⚡️
Oops. One £10m rebuy later... 😫😣😫
Yeah, in life the words 'One last.........' are frequently heard before a disaster of some sort!
I have lost count of the crappy decisions I have made in Elite and the amount of credits they have cost me.
Matt
Ceos and Sothis systems is good for fed rank, as you will always get missions between these two, and if you have big cargo space you can sometimes do 5 mission at a time with two cargo missions + couriers.
Ceos and Sothis systems is good for fed rank, as you will always get missions between these two, and if you have big cargo space you can sometimes do 5 mission at a time with two cargo missions + couriers.
I'll give it a try. I was doing courier missions from Ochoshi but it was soul destroying.
I quite enjoy murdering pirates but its definitely a slower way to build rank. I'll give Ceos and Sothis a try once i get bored
I was trying to build influence for my faction and managed to get 6 missions in a round trip, a recover hostages and two deliveries to another system, fill up with limpets and mine H2O2 in the next system, return for an in system delivery, then massacre 10 pirates. A solid evening's work.
The only problem was my faction tipped into a war state while I was away, so none of the influence counted!
matt
Pirate assasination mission from Sol seems to be okay.
The way it works is pick a system with a few mission - Barnard's Star worked for me. Then find lots of overlapping massacre missions from different Federation factions.
So Faction 1 gives you "Kill 30 pirates". Faction 2 Gives you "kill 12 Pirates," Faction 3 gives you "kill 40 Pirates" etc. As long as they are from different factions then any kills move the kill counter on all the missions.
You can also then add individual assassination missions, these count toward your massacre mission totals and you get the individual mission bonus for the assassination target too.
I picked Sol because there are a lot of Federation Factions and you can fly to Earth and visit the 3 stations next to it to stack as many mission as possible quite quickly.
Beware stacking missions with the risk of hostile ships being sent against you. It multiplies the risk!
Wow amazing what a few diamonds does! The traffic in G 59-7 has jumped from practically nothing to 12% of the total (Shinrata is 16%) due to an LTD price of 1.6M Cr/t.
Soon be ganker's paradise.
Matt
I might have been to G 59-7 a couple of times today.
Strictly for sightseeing purposes, you understand. 😉
Okay STW1 commanders; shall we RVP tomorrow at 2000hrs? Someone name a system and station ahead of time and I’ll try to move my fleet there ready 👍🏼
What's the brief? Pew pew or wing missions or what?
Wing something; I’m cool with missions, CZs, even a bit of wing mining which is meant to be lucrative and would be a bit of a laugh I’m sure, or a mixture?
How about multi-crew? I've got two spare seats in the Annie.
I’m definitely up for that; do you have an SLF now? I know it can be done remotely but let me know where to meet up still so we can retain options 👍🏼
That sounds like a laugh. Let me know where you're going to be.
Matt
I have an SLF bay in the Anaconda that can take two fighters. I also have lots of turreted weapons for some gunner action. I think it's in Tsondama but it won't take long to transfer it.
Although I just realised - I may be exposing myself here - if we go to a CZ and the ship gets killed I'll have to be the one who rebuys 🙂 . We might have to buy in with a couple of tons of LTD 😀
do wings still a 4 person limit? and if you have a conda & 2 PC manned slf fighters, does that take up 3 of a wing or only 1?
been on a break from ED (DOOOOOOOOOOOM), was thinking about coming back soon, new hotas is still stashed in the cupboard, getting used to new keybindings probs not a good idea in a CZ.
I also have lots of turreted weapons for some gunner action.
You'd be Chewbacca in that scenario. He was doing all the flying and nobody cared.
He had to wait 40 years for a medal.
Lack of cross platform support is bloody annoying.
On an unrelated note, all my Arx have disappeared.
My balance ( about 10,000) disappeared on Thursday and I now have a zero balance and error messages.
Apparently it was XBox Live issues but these were resolved and now I can't access the livery part of the game at all even if I did have any Arx left to spend it on.
It's allegedly getting fixed
I was going to buy Norman Lovett with it.
Any other Xboxers having similar issues?
I think wings and multi-crew are separate? Do MC members take up wing slots?
You’d be Chewbacca in that scenario. He was doing all the flying and nobody cared.
He had to wait 40 years for a medal.
Well, there are I think 5 turreted weapons, but two gimballed weapons underneath so there's still something for the pilot to do. But maybe they should be turrets underneath too for a multi-crew spec so that there's always coverage? Dunno.
On an unrelated note, all my Arx have disappeared.
Yeah mine too, no idea when its going to be fixed.
Logging in is sometimes a bit hit and miss too
X-Box Arx and livery are back on my system now and the login seemed to be back to normal, so hopefully that's all fixed.
Yeah my ARX came back this afternoon (Xbox). Still got kicked out though. It’s very flaky at the moment.
Won't be on til about 8.30 tonight - been working hard and have a bike ride to squeeze in.
Got to be up at 0300 for work tomorrow so will have to give this a miss tonight gents
from reading through this thread from the Initial woopee, new game to now it appears most of you have embraced the life of the Space Pirate.
Morals out the window, space exploration is for the other guy, and its a fast dive in guns'a'blazin' steal yer cargo.
That's the beauty of Elite, no single way to play it. Even the same player can play it different ways on different days, or a different ship can be a different character.
At the minute I am trying to further the cause of a minor faction, who are present in a few systems and have a couple of stations. Trying to tweak the BGS scratches a nerdy itch, YM(Ly)MV
Matt
it appears most of you have embraced the life of the Space Pirate
No! I'm the hero of the galaxy, as straight as they come! I don't even sell my LTDs to the Empire.
and im scared of picking up illegal cargo from the pirates i have blown up!
Just been to visit the triple spot in Borann to load up on cash before it will be gone in next update.
Now for the fun part, the run to a station with 241 diamonds in the hold.
Well you all seem to be having a rare old time. I'll play the explorer I thought, and do 100 jumps en-route to the elephant's trunk nebula. Scan a few tasty planets on the way I thought. What do I get for my trouble? 99.9% Rocks and ice. Not even a single solitary interdiction to spice things up. Now it's a 50/50 between going back or just ploughing on.
No! I’m the hero of the galaxy, as straight as they come! I don’t even sell my LTDs to the Empire.
Whilst I, on the other hand, am busy building a super frosty blockade runner.
Also having fun flying intercept patterns in supercruise and watching other commanders veer about the place as if I actually care. It breaks the monotony.
Well you all seem to be having a rare old time. I’ll play the explorer I thought, and do 100 jumps en-route to the elephant’s trunk nebula. Scan a few tasty planets on the way I thought. What do I get for my trouble? 99.9% Rocks and ice.
I’m floating around the galaxy using the Road to Riches to finish off my explorer ranking. Very close to Elite. I listen to music while I fly, as it can be pretty tedious.
Not even a single solitary interdiction to spice things up.
Ain't gonna happen, out in the middle of nowhere. 🙂
Doing passenger/explorer combos, to aim for Explorer Elite. And being careful not to drunkly fly into any more stars.
Part two of my mining experiment has pushed me to my trading Elite and I think my work for the faction has pushed me up to the next federal rank, so lots of drama yesterday. Some of that work was heavily disrupted by Anacondas pulling me out of supercruise every five minutes.
Fortunately I had a FDL escort in the form of Cmdr V8ninety and all would-be mission wreckers were dealt with (the Security Services jumped in a couple of times as well, credit where it's due!).
Matt
Ain’t gonna happen, out in the middle of nowhere.
Try dropping into a ring to start mining.
It'll happen then.
Or stacking missions delivering poll data, to 'help' with an election.
It will definitely happen then!
Matt
I really must bag myself another few hundred mil from Borann before the update comes.
On my next exploration gig shall I take my Anaconda or Asp X? I read a post by some guy who puts a fighter or two on his exploration Anaconda so he can go flying around new planets for a laugh. If I did that and had SRVs too it might be a fun diversion. Squadron members could teleport in via multi-crew and drive or fly around distant planets.
Yeah, I'm gonna take a look at Borann in the next few days, just to put something by for a rainy day! From what I can see, based on a small number of data, overlaps increase the amount of LTD you can mine in the same time by about a factor of 2. I got ~50t in a single (though this might be high due to finding two cores), about 95t in a double, both in around 100 minutes. I know I can fill the python in Borann in that time 192t.
That sounds like a good tactic to avoid the space madness. Do you have a double SRV hangar as well? SRV racing seems cool.
Matt
Yeah I think you can get two in the bigger hangars. It's a shame you can't fit paintball cannons on your fighters.
Which reminds me we still need to try CQC 🙂
Or, if we can't get CQC to work we could get all us noveau-riche Borann miners at the same station in some anarchy system and dogfight using stock Sidewinders 🙂
Any SRV racing needs to be at Dav’s Hope.
It’s the law.
Wonder how much longer we can exploit Borann for? Might have to squeeze a bit more money out of it
Or, if we can’t get CQC to work we could get all us noveau-riche Borann miners at the same station in some anarchy system and dogfight using stock Sidewinders
Nah sod that. I want to melt everyone with my Cheiftain that I've spent about 1,000 hours gathering materials and unlocking engineers for.
I should have pack hound missiles unlocked tomorrow too!
I say game on. Wherever it is in the bubble, it's about 20 mins in the Phantom (which also gives me a spare SRV when I blow one up).
Speaking of which I want new SRVs in the new release, forget space legs.
Matt
@Kato, the release which will nerf Borann is due on the 9th of June.
As I understand, the triple overlap will remain, but the contents change, so it may be a bromelite/bromelite/grandiderite triple, which is neither use nor ornament. I have a planet with four good double overlaps, so I am hoping worst case one will be LTD. I reckon I can get 60t per hour out of a good double. Another triple LTD will be found on release. If the release is the same as the carrier beta, the word is that a triple is already known! Unless the price of LTDs gets nerfed then it will still be the money making meta.
@Richmtb let me know about the packhounds. I had seekers on the medium hardpoint on my Chieftain, but they are swapped currently for a corrosive multicannon. I quite like missiles and the packhounds have a certain 'shock and awe' factor.
Matt
I quite like missiles and the packhounds have a certain ‘shock and awe’ factor.
I'd be interested to see what a high strength seismic mining charge would do to an NPC pirate ship if you could get it to stick.
Programme a limpet to 'ahem' pop it in the cargo hatch!
Matt
Fun with Matt and V8ninety in multicrew. They got all the fighter fun but I had all the firepower. Killed lots of little ships in low intensity RES, so we went to a hazardous one. Was all fine at first then a quite serious wing turned up with an Imperial Cutter who shot out my canopy - I might've had him if it weren't for that as I was still on about 70% hull to his 40%. Fortunately I was shown how to synthesise life support which was enough to get us back to a station. It was pretty tense as my rebuy is huge.
Really enjoyed the last couple of evenings. First evening, playing the part of an actual wing man, escorting Matt on his mission and dropping in when he got repeatedly interdicted by grudge bearing Anacondas felt properly space cowboy like. Those ‘Condas were tough, too, worth a lot more than measly bounties they gave, the buzz from working together was priceless. I reckon we both saved each other’s asses on more than one occasion. Seeing your wing mate zoom in and attack the ship that’s zero’d in on you is brilliant.
Last night, flying the two fighters from Molgrip’s Anaconda was hilarious. The fighters are next level manoeuvrable, and give a real X-wing feel. Some highlights; my entertaining first docking experience (what happened in the ‘roids stays in the ‘roids Mol 😉), formation flying and pack hunting bounties (not the coconut kind) in Haz res asteroid fields, got my “Great kid, don’t get cocky’ turret kill trophy, Molgrips ‘Accidentally’ exploding me in about 10ms with his massive weapon 😂. A few entertaining mid space mishaps.
All in all, a highly entertaining experience.
Thanks both 😎👍🏼
Most welcome.
Did you view the multi-crew report? It told me I had 2 hours in the helm role and 20 kills, but it somehow didn't let me view your stats? Maybe cos you'd logged off already?
I got a report when I got kicked out and then logged back in. There was time in roles, kills, lost fighters (oops) and cash money (about 260k). It really was good fun, the fighters are proper playtime, just remember to be the right way up when you try to dock with the conda.
Matt
Did you know you can also do multi-crew mining? The mining lasers can be turreted. Not sure what the dynamic is like though. Borann trip this evening?
Apparently wing mining is better. I'm thinking that you could have one or two people mining and another person with weapons for protection - but if the fighter also has collector limpets they could collect the fragments exploiting the duplicate fragment loophole. If one person ends up with more cargo it could be shared once out of the ring.
I’m not going to be able to get back in the black for about a week now, frustratingly, but I’m totally up for a bit of wing mining when I return.
o7 cmdrs 😎
I'll probably spend a couple of hours sat in Borann tonight.
I have had 2 trips to the triple last 2 evenings, today i am out getting my shield boosters engineered, then i will probably be back to milk the last bit out of it so my wallet can be nice and full before i head off on a exploring trip.
can anyone explain why some ships when you jump to new system just stops and sit still and others seems to have a habbit of throttling up on their own when arriving? say you have a habbit of alt tabbing out to move things on second monitor when you jump and sometimes forget to get back in time and then in some ships you are on the way into the sun but not all?
I will be mining at some point this weekend, but tonight I'm doing some tidying up, with engineers, material traders and a little work for Terra Ex.
@mikkel i recognise it but can't offer any solution, sorry.
Matt
can anyone explain why some ships when you jump to new system just stops and sit still and others seems to have a habbit of throttling up on their own when arriving?
If you have supercruise assist then there's a setting in the ship panel called 'hyperspace dethrottle', which is where it throttles back to stop you flying flat out straight into the sun - a fairly useful safety feature I'd have thought. But it only works if you have supercruise assist - and I think ships do not come with it as standard but the starting Sidewinder has it.
I think I've found the first ship I'm going to sell. The alliance Cheiftain, what an absolute dog! Every half decent scrap and the weapons are malfunctioning left right and centre, the last I finished with one hardpoint out of 6 actually working.
I'll go mining and buy something else with the proceeds!
Matt
Thankns Mol that explains it 🙂
now trouble shoot this one.
Flying around in my Corvette picking up stuff from signal sources, launched 1 collector limpet worked fine. but now it just say "programming limpet drone" the number changes in hud, but never get the usual launching sound, and the number in hud goes back up.
What the heck is wrong?
seems to have been some bizare lag.
its back to normal now.
So having flung military bulkheads and shield boosters at my crate it's now playing nice with the pew pew.
i just got my Corvette shields thermal resist up to 18,9% what a difference this have made. and this was from engineering the Shield Generator and 1 shield booster, still got a handfull of boosters that can be upgraded.
just been seal clubbing around a Nav beacon to get some materials, its fun when Cobras or ASP X come up and scan you, and the moment you click the button their shield is gone 🙂
Nice!
404m last night selling my LTDs at Alexandria Ring in Xhosattu, to the Alliance. Boring but easy. I need to bank some serious coin over the next week. Having said that, if mining post-update requires more work, it might actually be a lot more fun so it might draw me to do it more often. I could live with a 50m haul if it only took me an hour and I had to actually work for it.
My aim is to bank enough cash to fully kit out my Anaconda and maybe enough to purchase a pure combat ship and/or a passenger liner. On the subject of the Anaconda I'm still confused about bulkheads. Both of the top end bulkhead options are a staggering 300m each, which is over twice the entire cost of the ship. Some people are suggesting going for the reactive composite and engineering it for thermal resistance. Others are suggesting not to bother and simply putting all your effort into engineered shields.
On the subject of shields, I'm not sure whether to go for bi-weave or not.
Good work Molgrips. When I came back last night I saw you were in Borann, but it was a 200+Ly trip to get my miner and make it to Borann. My take on the update is that mining will be the same just a different location. I think this is a shame as Borann pulled a lot of players together, unless the new location is as central, so of that may be lost.
On the 'conda I would say the biggest heaviest shields you can find, with engineering towards thermal resist. Biweaves suit a build which is more mobile and where you are expecting to be under fire 40% of the time or less. To me this is not the 'conda. In general I think shield buffs are powerful for the 'conda due to it's low hull mass (might be reading the stats wrong though!).
If you got into bed with Alyssa(sp) you could have prismatics!
Matt
Alyssa, you mean Arissa Lavingy-Duval? I was working for Felicia Winters for a while so I might go back, I think I can still get the prismatics that way too.
That's the one, but no I got them mixed up. Prismatics is Aisling. Felicia is Pulse Disruptors.
Matt
Oh I thought that was the only thing for the whole fed. Hmm.