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What nice shiny shoes you have sir.
On your way then, but don't let me see you doing that again.
BOLLOCKS 👿
My only time with the police was when I was turned over at Glasto a few years back, TBH they were lovely. I didn't get my money back, but they made sure I was OK, and looked after me really nicely.
They're there to help me, I'm not bothered by them
I've seen Strathclyde's finest from both sides - as a victim of crime and as the accused. Always been courteous, if a bit bumbling and amusingly incompetent 🙂
Only bad experience was with a jumped-up idiot who claimed he was an off-duty officer but wouldn't show me his warrant card, so he got short shrift...
ANyone that claims their are an off duty cop but won't show their card is a tool! Either they are lying or a complete jumped up p**** that most of us hate and have been discussed on here.
M-c, do you have to carry your card (warrant card?) around with you at [i]all[/i] times?
No reason for q, just being nosey. 🙂
I do most of the time, but not if I'm on a night out.
Oh and you wouldn't get a caution for driving without due care and attention. It's points or a discretionary ban from the magistrate
My few interactions with the Politzi have been pretty benign. Once for speeding in my Minor, 40 in a 30, which I honestly thought was 40, (for complicated reasons), once for dodgy front shocks in same car, (told to get them fixed), breathalised once after beeing seen driving away from a pub, after a gig, (and two Guiness), and passed it. (Just), and more recently got pulled by an unmarked black Beemer on the A420 after overtaking a slower van and being clocked at 78mph. I was following after an ambulance that had just picked up my dad and was taking him to Bath RI. Cop was very cool, told me to just be careful, lots of bikers about and the road was a bit iffy, which I know very well. Wished me well, hoped my dad was ok and got back in his car.
Not every cop is a kok.
used to get stopped and searched by the police on a regular basis. It got so silly that we used go to mates houses before going on the town and each pick a random collection of their parents/siblings stuff, go out, have a good night and if, as usual the weirdos with the mohawks got stopped and told to "empty our pockets" we than had all the fun of producing:
salt cellars, random china figurines, toy cars, one of those hideous knitted old lady bog roll covers, etc... kept us amused for ages.
bless the chesire constabulary they really where buffoons
wunhundred 😀
I would just like to say, that as a result of reading stuffs on this forum, I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique, as they both strike me as very reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent Human Beings. I would have no problem having bike rides and pints with either of them, and hope that one day I will have the opportunity to do so.
I am currently enjoying the combined effects of fairly strong painkillers and alcohol, but compus mentis enough to mean what I say.
Come the morrow, I may not be in quite such a pleasant mood, however.
I'd agree with you on Munque-chick Effin, but I've actually been properly rogered by deluded (figuratively, donchaknow). We had to sell up and move to a rough area because of the financial pressure he put me (and many others in the Avon and Somerset are) under. All so he can live in a nice spot in Nailsea, drive an Audi, drink brandy, Cider, smoke cigars and mow his lawn on a sit-on.
Absolute shyster of the highest order I tell you.
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Well,
I forgot what I was going to say, actually. I think I might have some noodles.
I would just like to say, that as a result of reading stuffs on this forum, I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique, as they both strike me as very reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent Human Beings. I would have no problem having bike rides and pints with either of them
Just make sure you keep buying them pints and they might not arrest you.
I feel the need to add that my experiences with the police have been largely very positive - stopped in a car a few times, but couldn't grumble about any of them (once I was very lucky to get away with a warning). Once rolled (as in drove up a bank and rolled sideways) my car into a police car when driving too fast down a singletrack road, and was amazed how nice the police driver and all other police involved were (as predicted by the police driver who mainly reassured me, I wasn't charged). My only possible complaint was a bit of dodgy driving under blues and twos (they overtook a car overtaking me), but I can't fault the way my complaint was dealt with.
Maybe it's because I is white. Maybe lucky. Maybe my attitude has been good.
Well,I forgot what I was going to say, actually. I think I might have some noodles.
That cracked me up, best post on the thread.
I would just like to say, that as a result of reading stuffs on this forum, I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique,
DD how much and what sort of lawnmower is required to get him proper stitched up and put somewhere with no internet access when they meet...i feel sure the forum could raise it....do they travel to Edinburgh?
I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique, as they both strike me as very reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent Human Beings.
High praise indeed. 😀
Anytime you find yourself in Bristol Elf give me a shout if you fancy a few scoops and/or a blat round Ashton Court or the Gordano Valley, Mendips etc - be a pleasure mate.
As for DD - I’ve had to take out a non molestation order out against him - he’s like on of those weird celebrity stalker types 😀
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DD how much and what sort of lawnmower is required to get him proper stitched up and put somewhere with no internet access when they meet...i feel sure the forum could raise it....do they travel to Edinburgh?
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Breathalysed 3 times...
Twice polite random Xmastime tests. No problems.
Once 27 years ago, the old blow-in-the-bag routine (just under) because I had driven the wrong way around a small roundabout racing a mate. When stopped I was in drag, with a tomato ketchup soaked tampon hanging off each ear. They asked me which pub I was going to next, followed me there, and told me not to drive again that night. Brilliant.
Deadlydarcey, no rules or regarding but remembe 'you are always on duty' and if you have to step into something off duty you need your card, if you don't probably ID yourself then get assaulted you will lose that one. as Kato said I have mine at all times unless on the razz! Thanks elfin if you ever Chilterns way give us an email. like deluded said earlier it is frustrating when many a folk on here seem to slate police often with no real justification. u know quite a few old bill who should not be in job/ I wouldn't want to work with but only so much I can do to promote a good service.
Munge chick - unfortuatly the cops tend to be in taht situation where if they do their job well no one notices or comnets. Teh only time folk comment is if they don't get the service tey want.
My view / experience of cops is that because they spend so much time daling with 'orrible scrotes who are not even decent crims they get very jaundiced. However from working alongside the I am impressed how decent they really are and my own dealings with them have always been good - both when I need a cops help and when I am in trouble 🙂
"yes sir (or ma'am) no sir three bags full sir" is always a good approach
My first experience of the police was back in 1995 when I was 18. A young girl had been brutally raped and murdered in my home town. She was 16 and this was the first murder in the town for 50 years.
About a week after it happened I was walking home (sober) from the pub about 11pm when I became aware that someone was following me. I kept looking back and could see someone ducking into doorways or behind something whenever I looked behind me. I was about 2 minutes away from my parents house but this was freaking me in light of what had happened a week earlier out so I pulled my mobile out and dialled 999.
Before I even had a chance to speak all hell broke loose. Cars came screaming round the corner and a bunch of guys jumped out and started screaming at me to get down on the ground and to stay where I was. I started shouting that someone was following me but they kept screaming at me. It turns out they were all police and once I got down on the ground they pounced on me, handcuffed me, dragged me to my feet, slammed me up against a wall and started interrogating me. One was right up in my face, bearing in mind I was a skinny wee runt when I was 18 and he was a big burly undercover CID cop. He was threatening me with all sorts such as a night in the cells or getting questioned over the murder. They said they were looking for the killer and they'd been following me home from the pub (hence the guy that was following me)
After about 15 minutes they let me go but they were total arseholes throughout the entire thing.
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When a cop stops you the correct answer is " yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir" that way you don't get hassle.
Get out of the car / off your bikes. stand small and look meek.
I have got off with a load of stuff doing this.[b]thegreatape - Member[/b]
*makes mental note not to fall for TJ's tricks next time he comes up this way - zero tolerance*[b]TandemJeremy - Member[/b]
What nice shiny shoes you have sir.[b]thegreatape - Member[/b]
On your way then, but don't let me see you doing that again.[b]thegreatape - Member[/b]
BOLLOCKS !
Comedy Genius 
I thought so too nealglover 😀
:-)where TJ goes, comedy follows
Boardinbob- You had a mobile in 1995?? When you were 18??
Yes, one of these bad boys i think, that i stupidly signed up for without realising how much it would actually cost
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I've been stopped twice. Once back from a night out to see a mate in the next town, I had 4 in a fiat 127 and then our mate decides he wants a lift back to his parents as well so he was lying across the 2 in the back. None of us were little so I vaguely remember wheel arches dragging on tyres as we went round corners and unsurprisingly we were pulled over before we'd even left Oxford. After a bit of to- and fro- with the policewoman she agreed to let us go as long as we returned him home first and if she saw us with all 5 in again then she would give me a ticket. The difficult part was one of the lads in the back had for some odd reason taken about 30 pairs of those snap apart chopsticks from where we'd just had our after pub bait, and as i sat and gave the WPC my details was pushing them one by one into my hand and I was trying to dispose of them under the seat at the same time....
The other time, again i had 3 mates in the car but this time we had stayed in S. london and were heading through some of the less salubrious areas of that fine city on the way to Gatwick at about 4am to go skiing. We'd got lost once and had to double back and I was vaguely aware of a car behind us, but spirits were high and banter was all consuming, when suddenly at a set of lights a police car with all lights on came through the other way and pulled right across the front. The (unmarked) car behind pulled alongside boxing us in and before we knew what was happening the doors were being pulled open and we were being invited to get out and get on the floor. After a bit of frisking and shouting they calmed down and started to believe the story, and then once they'd opened the boot and found skiboots and all our passports and tickets the tone changed somewhat.
Their reason was that the car had shown up as being from out of town, 4 lads inside in beanie hats, laden down with who knows what - all seemed plausible, and their directness was apologised for but they explained that if their hunch had been correct they'd have expected some different response. On the plus side, by now we've lost another 10 minutes and had already been lost once, so we got an escort (no lights though) to the A23; on the neg side my estimation of the number of pairs of pants needed for a 7 day trip had taken an unexpected hit in the debit column.
Their reason was that the car had shown up as being from out of town, 4 lads inside in beanie hats, laden down with who knows what - all seemed plausible
Pfft - pretty thin stuff.
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Konabunny that is not pretty thing stuff, that's ample suspicion to stop a car and talk to the occupants. I can't find the post again to find out what time it was, but if it was night/early hours even more reason. There aren't many people who have a legtimate reason to be out at night and in the early hours and if they do it isn't ususally 3 people in beanies. Those are the kind of people who may well be out burgling and robbing. Surely as a law abiding member of society if you are stopped, asked a few questions about what you are up to (hoepfully by polite officers and not jumped up power tripping ones) then it won't take long for you to get moved on with a few checks, otherwise I would suggest your vehicle may well be getting searched.
I can't find the post again to find out what time it was, but if it was night/early hours even more reason
About 4am, in South London, on the way to catch an early morning charter flight. TBH I didn't have that much of an issue with the justification apart from the resulting poostain in my pants, and they were nice as pie afterwards.
I can't believe the immaturity of some posters on here. Slagging the Police one minute but they'd be straight on the phone if a burglar turned up at their house.
Every time I've been stopped I've had this problem as well - and I am a perfectly normal adult with no 'previous' or whatever they call it, I do have a shaved head though? Perhaps that's the problem. But in all seriousness, I thought this was the 'norm', given the times it has happened to me, my friends, and my wife.
It happened to my wife recently and she was quite upset by it. My usual advice is to not rise to it, do precisely as asked and no more. I'm positive they're either looking for a rise, or have become indoctrinated into expecting everyone to be a scumbag.
Gawd bless our lovely boys in blue. (no seriously, they have helped us loads. Perhaps the traffic lot are very angry about something?)
My mate from Oxfordshire plod say the traffic lot write with crayons, she is very critical of them.
I can't believe the immaturity of some posters on here. Slagging the Police one minute
Not at all. Criticising the behaviour of a few individuals is all. I don't think people asking for police officers to treat them with a bit of courtesy and respect is 'slagging off the police'.
And I'm struggling to see why criticising flaws in an institution which has a duty to be exemplary is 'immature'.
I've only ever been breathalised once, riding home fairly late at night (on the motorbike, not the pushbike). Wasn't at all bothered to be stopped, but similiar to the story earlier in the thread the copper wouldn't take "sober" for an answer- he did the test twice, came back totally dry, he said "I don't believe you've not been drinking, do it again". Meanwhile his mate was going all over the bike looking for a defect to pull me for. So I told him either * off or arrest me, and unsurprisingly enough he *ed off.
There seems to be a theme here. Doing your job- absolutely fine. Treating members of the public like criminals- not fine. I've had a few dealings with the police but most have been absolutely spot on, as you'd expect. The 2 chaps who arrested me a few years back were the absolute height of professionalism 😉
Pfft - pretty thin stuff.
So what if it is? What do you want - HD footage of the occupants doing crime, with a pre-signed confession and big neon arrow above the car saying "It was us - we did it & we'd do it again!"
Would you say that if you found out the following day that someone matching that description has been seen going through you shed and the Police hadn't bothered stopping them to see why they were out & about at that hour?
What if it was a rural location plagued by dwelling burglaries?
Have you had a genuinely bad experience or jumping on the bandwagon?
Perhaps the traffic lot are very angry about something?
Might be onto something, the idiot who stopped me was a traffic cop. I work with the Police regularly and when I mentioned to some of the cops I know about the incident, I started with, "she came over to the car", and they all said, "I didn't know they could get out their cars"!
As I said before, only ever had the one bad incident, the rest have been spot on.
There aren't many people who have a legtimate reason to be out at night
There aren't many people that [i]need [/i]a legitimate reason to be out at night.
Would you say that if you found out the following day that someone matching that description has been seen going through you shed and the Police hadn't bothered stopping them to see why they were out & about at that hour?
Is that some sort of satirical hyperbole? What would I say if the police failed to stop people who don't match a description of certain people?
Been arrested for D&D, held on football related matters and breathalyser a number of times.
Big deal!
Then went on to marry my wife who is in the job!
Top and bottom of things is that if I was not in the wrong for the first two matters I would not have been lifted.
If I did not raise suspicion I would not have been stopped and breathalysed, which have always been a negative sample.
The police are there to to a job and believe me it's a shitty one, I could not and would not want to do it.
Having to deal with the scum of society putting there live potentially at risk.
Basically what number do you call if you house is burgled, car is stolen or whatever else warrants there help?
Yes 999.....
There are idiots in all jobs I know I work with some!!!
Big deal you've been breathalysed.....get over it!!!!!!
Let me see...
By and large, the Police I have dealt with in the past have been decent, with a couple of exceptions.
Back home, one of the local bobbies was ex-HCR and, I think, out to prove something to either the local population, or the other police at the station. I was tailgated through a village on the way home from a mate's house oe night, and as soon as the 60 sign appeared, he blue-lighted me and pulled me over for a breth test. zero drunk, so zero result.
A couple of weeks later, I'm leaving my mate's house after a curry and another car tailgates me (and I mean proper close) along a 50mph dual road. I stick to the speed limit like glue, but drop a gear and go round the roundabout at the end of the dual without slowing down to try and get away from what I thought were chavs. Scant seconds later, blues go on and I'm pulled over.
Him: "Round here we call that dangerous driving".
Me: "Really? I was just trying to put some distance between my rear bumper and the front bumper of what I thought was some joyriding chav out to kill me"
Him: "Can you get out of your car please? Your number plate is almost illegible"
Next stop, breath test - Pass.
Third time was coming back from the pub following a mate. 50 yards from the pub I see cop car in the driveway to the village hall waiting to pull people over. Now, I've been Des for the pool team, so I'm clear, but I get pulled and am kept there, despite a green reading for a second and a third try because "it turned yellow for a second". Then they let me go. The only good thing about them pulling me was that I could be sure that anyone that had been drinking at my pub got away before they got back to their stake out.
The second and third times that copper pulled me over he was rude, certainly not what I would expect from a country policeman. The guy that pulled me over the fourth time (Leaving pub, again Des, along an icy back road. I'm in 4wd, he's in an Escort, so after a while I stop and let him catch up.) was a totally different case. He thanked me for waiting for him, apologised for taking up my time and asked me if I had been drinking. When I told him I'd been driving the pool team around, he nodded and apologised for taking up my time. Polite and nice all the way through. But then, he was a local.
I think you may be misunderstanding the whole concept of the Police. Yes, they are mainly seen as a reactive service, reacting to 999 calls etc. but their main purpose is to Prevent crime.
It is fact that groups of youths are out there in small cars committing crime in the early hours of the morning. It would be remiss of the Police not to stop a car with 3 youths in, in an area that this car doesn't originate.
IF the car contains normal law abiding members of the Public, then fine - they will be allowed on their way after a short series of checks to verify identity, driving docs etc. However, IF it contains a bunch of Ne'er do wells out on the rob, then they will be left in no doubt they are being watched, so would be better employed sodding off somewhere else. If there's nothing to lock 'em up for their presence will be noted and possibly entered onto an Intel' database, so if a crime is reported the next day the Police can have a look at the intel and see that this bunch were in that area last night.
Would you rather the Police work like this, or would you prefer they stopped nobody unless they were there and then in the process of committing crime? I can tell you from experience that a great many high profile arrests have been from seemingly random stops. They're not really random, but usually as a result of a host of factors that gets the copper's nose twitching. One of which is the presence of a car in an area it doesn't originate at a time of day that is notorius for dwelling house burglary (i.e. when you're all safely tucked up asleep in bed). This fella wouldn't have been found if it wasn't for this type of Policing: