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It just goes to show that the two coppers were prepared to lie!

Shocking. Who would have thought it ?

I once got accused by a couple of coppers for not having my seat belt on, the conversation went like this: "you didn't have your seatbelt on", "yes I did", "no you didn't", "yes I did", "do you want to argue the toss?", "no".

I didn't get nicked.

But yeah, had I got nicked then I would probably have hated all coppers for the rest of my life. So you carry on hating them. And don't ever let the ****ers take you alive. Good luck.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 2:17 am
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Thats just one experience with them!

I was in a pub once when a guy came in selling power tools, a guy in my running club had his power tools stolen out of the back of his van a week before. These power tools had his name etched on them, they were his tools!

I called the police, they couldnt be bothered to come down and look. In fact they even threatend me with wasting police time!!!

I have about 3 or 4 more experiences with them that are very negative!

Only 1 positive.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 2:25 am
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I have a few mates in the polis, and a few acquaintances who definitely aren't mates. I've had some very unpleasant dealings with power-tripping, badge-covering meatheads in uniform, and some excellent experiences with helpful, knowledgable types too.

But my Dad got stopped in Edinburgh a few years ago with my six year old half sister in the back seat. The police who stopped him claimed that neither my Dad nor my sister were wearing their seatbelts. My Dad is completely anal about seatbelts and won't turn the key until everyone is belted up. By that, I mean he is utterly obsessive about seatbelts - the car doesn't move unless everyone in the car is clicked in.

He denied the claims and one of the cops started shouting and swearing explicitly (six year old still in the back of the car). Dad got a fine, wee sister learned some new words.

So as always, it simply comes down to the fact that there are nice folk and nasty folk in every walk of life. The nasty ones do tend to colour ones' perception of any given profession, but that's life baaaaby, that's life ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 2:45 am
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They are human beings, some have manners & some don't.

I agree that manners are free.

I run a small business and I treat everyone with respect until they prove otherwise. If I didn't, I wouldn't have any customers.

The police have no lack of customers, so don't need to worry ๐Ÿ™‚

My dad were a copper and my wife still is. Most of the folks they work/worked with are good, some are not.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 8:02 am
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And as a character reference, B.A.nana is my bro in law and would have been nothing but polite to the tool.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 8:05 am
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A few years ago in France I was at my ex's for Christmas. After lunch we were taken by her dad to see some relatives. Just outside the village we were stopped by the Gendarmes.

Cop "Afternoon sir, have you been drinking?"
Dad "Yes but with moderation"
Cop "Are you sure it was with moderation?"
Dad "Of course"
Cop "Very well then, have a nice day"

Classic French encounter!


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 9:27 am
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I used to go out with a girl whos step-dad was a copper. He used to brag about picking youths up in the van on a Saturday night in town, chuck them on the floor of the van and sit round kicking them on the way back to the station.

I also used to have a 'favourite' copper who would pull me up every single time he saw my car with various made up reasons.

The worst are the Plastic Pigs on the motorways (usually ex coppers anyway). I was working on a job on a motorway junction about 4 years ago and had my car parked under the bridge. They came up to me giving it some OTT spiel about being 10 seconds away from calling the bomb squad, but luckily they'd seen my hi viz on the back seat. Yeah and the fact we were in a set of roadworks. Idiots!


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 9:46 am
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my first ever relationship with the police was when i was taken to the station for questioning i was stopped in my mini late at night shaking like a leaf gets out of car was honest as the day is long no cheek.. got a ride in the car for been suspicious .. nervous and honest.. free to go 6 hours later.. had to walk back to get my car..


 
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I got pulled over by the rozztafarians earlier this year.. I was driving a beat up old banger with 3 lads in at 3am on a saturday morning through the town centre.. busy dropping the lads home after a night out..

I've never had much will-power and usually drink to oblivion but this night I was designated driver so I did my civic duty..

We were pulled.. The officer eyed me suspiciously and asked me where he knew me from before I was briefly questioned about our movements that evening and about my history with the police and then breathalysed..

The police were very professional.. I was given the opportunity to hand over any class A drugs before I was searched (cannabis would be overlooked apparently)..
All was well as I am a very well meaning family man..

Then the policeman asked about my passengers.. when he saw the guy in the back he laughed..
'that will be why the car stinks of alcohol then' he quipped.. 'I won't ask [i]you[/i] to turn out your pockets or we'll have to lock you up and throw away the key'

Apparently my pal in the back seat had made such an impression on the officer [i]20 years previously and in another county[/i] that the old warrior had recognised the guy and felt that he had to pull us over.. they briefly exchanged a bit of banter about a stray post office bike with my mate vigorously protesting his innocence before we were sent on our merry way..

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so it's not all bad all the time


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 9:50 am
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We've just come back from a job in Dublin. We arrived on a Sunday evening at the hotel we were staying in and working in later in the week but our first job was at the Guinness factory the following day so we had a sprinter full of expensive kit we had to leave loaded overnight. We checked with the hotel about where the best and safest place to park would be.We couldn't fit it in their car park so the C&B manager phoned the local Garda to see if we could park it outside the station. Not only that he then got in his car so we could follow him there. We went in saw the Sargent on duty who said well there isn't really any space outside but don't worry I'll open up the pound and we'll lock it up overnight for you and you can collect it in the morning. That's how you get people on your side, not by giving people who have done nothing wrong a hard time.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 10:11 am
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I know loads of policemen; about 90% are sound as anything, and they don't like the 10% who are not. Still at least they give the middle class something to be bitter about,eh Geologist? I have been stopped loads of times usually quite fairly, always found them biddable,ie keep you trap shut,don't argue etc... Just based on your posts on this thread, I wonder what your attitude was towards them....

I was in a pub once when a guy came in selling power tools, a guy in my running club had his power tools stolen out of the back of his van a week before. These power tools had his name etched on them, they were his tools!

I called the police, they couldnt be bothered to come down and look. In fact they even threatend me with wasting police time!!!

I call Bullscheckt


 
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We got pulled over by the police in Bournemouth by a very young copper for driving through the town with our fog lights still on at 5am on a foggy (in the forest) february mornign. Young copper comes up, and taps on the windows and I ask what the problem is - he says it is about my foglights so I explained that just coming into town it was still foggy and I had forgotten to turn them off as I was trying to get my wife to the hospiatal. He then looked in the back seat where my wife was well into labour and by no means in a mood for this type of rubbish.
Young PC suddenly went as white as a sheet with the thought of babies suddenly popping out and he being around - so instead gave us an escort directly to the maternity hospital under blues just so he could get us off his hands ๐Ÿ™‚
My wife gave birth to our daughter not long afterwards!


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 10:29 am
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our local constabulary are worse than the criminals they are suppose to protect us from. Rude, lazy, surly, racist and corrupt.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 10:42 am
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My most recent encounter was in Dover at 3am after getting off the ferry.

Was stopped in a lay-by coming out of Dover, very polite bloke said I had a brake light out. He then helped me change it (as I carry spares) using his torch as I couldn't see a thing.

Top bloke.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 10:45 am
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My brother's a copper, a good one at that. Am surprised he and his colleagues keep a level head when you hear of the scum they deal with day in day out. The type of scum you wouldn't want to meet once in a lifetime, the type of people that would happily see you dead. Yes they are paid & trained for it but once in a while they might show cracks.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 10:52 am
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Best thing to do with Little Hitlers like that, is be extraspeshly nice to them, cringemakingly polite, tell them what an amazing job they're doing, how wonderful they look in their lovely uniform, etc.

If you've done nowt wrong, there's nowt they can do to you. The more you show them you're not bothered by their pathetic macho posturing, the more impotent they actually feel.

It's all about not behaving as they expect you too; take the power away from them in that respect. They're left wondering what to do next, and can't think straight cos they're so wound up. You win, they lose. You come away laughing, your own ego intact.

Little wave and blow them a kiss as they storm off in a huff. Icing on the cake

A quality post, I saw a colleague do exacally the same with a women who wanted to kickoff on site once and it worked a treat all her colleagues walked off trying not to laugh at her and we got an apology from HR.

I have been stopped several times by Avon and Somersets finest and they have always been very polite and civil as was I.

If they were rude etc complain


 
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My brother's a copper, a good one at that. Am surprised he and his colleagues keep a level head when you hear of the scum they deal with day in day out. The type of scum you wouldn't want to meet once in a lifetime, the type of people that would happily see you dead. Yes they are paid & trained for it but once in a while they might show cracks.

Totally agree - tough job a lot of the time I'd imagine. However, this is why they need to ensure they don't come over as arses to normal folk. "Hearts and minds" and all that. If the mediocre "could go either way" type kids I've dealt with in the past came from homes with parents with a bad attitude towards the police through a general perception or an unnecessarily bad experience there is a much greater chance they are going to be giving some poor copper grief in the future. What comes around goes around.


 
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The police are failed Marines, next time you get stopped ask which part of the commando training they failed and offer to help them to prepare for a retake, i that fails start crying and ask them not to hit you!


 
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deluded most folk dont ever deal with plod - I have in work times so see them as more human if you are only stopped every few years and the person is a nob then it clouds your view of all plod.

I cannot remember who it was but I saw a documentary once which had a talking head saying that the critical moment for police oversight and reform in the 60/70s came because of traffic stops and the rise of speeding and drink-driving enforcement.

Specifically, the more politically influential middle classes - who generally had little contact with the police, apart from occasionally as victims of crime - started to come into contact with the cops and realised what frightfully awful, rude people they were. It was progressively realised the "let the village bobby sort it out with a clip round the ear'ole" and "if he weren't a bad 'un, they wouldn't have arrested him" lines that the middle classes had told themselves about complaints about police brutality and fit-ups might not be true. And police oversight/policing by consent became a more pressing topic and improvements were made as a result.

I wasn't entirely convinced by the guy's argument, but it was an interesting way of thinking about it.


 
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Tbh, if all the bizzies were like deluded, I'd feel a lot more strongly about it. I borrowed a couple of bits and pieces off him, and straight away, he wanted kid glove treatment - like I was one of the guys who pays him off regularly for ignoring a few hundred kilo of charlie in the fuel tank of a Honda coming in at Avonmouth. I ended up having to give him cider, brandy, cigars, Sainsburys vouchers, a go in my car (which he then went and copied with his purchase), ยฃ50 behind the bar in his local (this is still ongoing FFS) every weekend, a carpet cleaner and a sit-on lawnmower.

I mean. Come on! FFS. Bizzies...what can you do with 'em?!?

Quite right knob ends are easily killed with kindness.

still, an annoying story nonetheless.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 11:19 am
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Of all my brushes with plod, the only one where they treated me respectfully was when I had just been broken into. And then they passively encouraged me to defraud my insurance.

Twice I have attempted to report crimes and have been met with aggressive responses accusing me of not being helpful ( ie, I refused to agree to THEIR description of the perpetrator because I hadn't seen them well enough - basically they wanted me to say who they thought it was so they could collar him)


 
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When i was at uni i had a famously crappy looking red diesel fiesta - all legal and roadworthy but just rusty and smokey

One night coming home from the union in dundee i was stopped 3 times

Hadnt had a drop of alcohol

The third time the policeman spoke to me and his mate went round my car kicking at the wheels and the exhaust - got to the passengers side and asked my mate to wind the window down - it didnt work ๐Ÿ™‚ - my mate opened the door and asked his name - as it was the third time qe had been stopped in about 8 miles , my mate said yeah my name is xxxxx son of xxxx chief of police for this area - can i have your badge number please - suddenly they got a whole lot more reasonable

As it transpires a car matching my cars descriptiom was used in a aerious crime in the area - that i dont mind but they seemed to have a real your guilty attitude when they stopped me and a real grude to find something wrong when they found it wasnt the righ car .


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 11:20 am
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jimbobrighton - are you for real mate!


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 11:31 am
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are you sure deluded it seems so plausible ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 11:37 am
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DD was joking with that story.

Yeah right, of course he was.

A "sit-on lawnmower"......greedy, corrupt, [i]and[/i] lazy. ffs


 
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A "sit-on lawnmower"......greedy, corrupt, and lazy. ffs

Yeah but nice lawn though.

Honestly you lot always see the negatives ๐Ÿ™„

FFS


 
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I've had better backhanders ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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Ah, another story - when I was 21 I had a slight incident where I ran off the road and up an embankment. I thought I'd bust my radiator (it was the water from the headlight washers), so didn't try and drive it away. I thought no damage was done, so I walked to a phone box and got a friend to come and tow me off.

A few weeks later I got a call from the rozzers and was dragged in for driving without due care & attention, plus failure to report an accident. Apparently I damaged a farmers fence, but it was dark and I hadn't noticed.

Anyway, after being interviewed the officer in charge told me that he was going to suggest I received a caution, but whether I actually got prosecuted would depend on whether they had hit their quata that month or not. Hmmm, strange justice, but I got away with it.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 11:57 am
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My brother's a copper, a good one at that. Am surprised he and his colleagues keep a level head when you hear of the scum they deal with day in day out. The type of scum you wouldn't want to meet once in a lifetime, the type of people that would happily see you dead. Yes they are paid & trained for it but once in a while they might show cracks.

having to spend some time dealing with real criminals is not a valid excuse for treating the law abiding majority in a surly and aggressive manner.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 12:08 pm
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First time I saw English police I had a chuckle, they looked so cute and cuddly compared to what I was used to.

I was once stopped by a skidding landrover for riding across the road with no lights on my bike. 6 coppers jumped out of the back and surrounded me. A bit OTT? Yes, especially as they were dressed like this...

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Luckily it wasn't the first time an officer had pointed his gun in my face so it wasn't as shocking as they'd hoped. Thankfully those days are gone.


 
Posted : 17/12/2011 12:11 pm
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Like any group of people the majority are ok, there will always be a few idiots, but they do tend to be prolific idiots.

Only ever had one bad experience, collar number taken and I made a complaint the following day. A couple of weeks later I got a response, turns out I wasn't the only person to complain about that particular individual that night, so well worth doing to try and stamp out the few idiots that are around.


 
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I have found most coppers quite reasonable . I have been pulled over once. Random stop just wanted to know what I had been up to. Could tell I hadnt been drinking. He wrote a description of what I looked like. I said I was 6 foot 2. He said im 6 foot 2 and your not as tall as me. Then he wrote I has scruffy hair. Was all very odd, but I was just polite and allowed to go on my short scruffy looking way.


 
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"Rozzers" now there's a word that show you how to repect the police.
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But yeah, had I got nicked then I would probably have hated all coppers for the rest of my life. So you carry on hating them. And don't ever let the ****ers take you alive. Good luck.

Ernie - you dont think that they were shop security guards before they became coppers do you?!? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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Time after time the police are as shown that beleive they are above the law and they probably are....


 
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I have worked three forces so far, starting with the Met, which was an eye opener where it was considered normal practice to get in peoples faces all the time. Then to West Mercia, where I had my first and only (so far) intervention with colleagues who were about to make an unlawful arrest, just because they couldn't take the banter (which they started). Finally I'm in South Yorks and on the whole it is a much better place for the standard of officers. So maybe there is something in making your way north and coppers chilling out a bit. Now if we could just sort out the top brass, willy waving and bragging every run up to Xmas about which force will record the most breathalyser tests, a right pain in the backside that is.


 
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When I had a car crash in the spring, due to someone else, the traffic cop who dealt with it said it was nice to help a law-abiding member of the public instead of dealing with the same old crims they deal with every day. I guess it can warp their world-view somewhat.

I didn't mention the cheeky riding.


 
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Like any group of people the majority are ok, there will always be a few idiots, but they do tend to be prolific idiots.

This isn't (necessarily) true: police forces are not like any group of people. Police employees don't randomly reflect the wider population. Police forces are institutions and they institutionalise: there are norms of behaviour that are sought out amongst recruits and expected from employees. People that "fit" "do well" and people that don't, don't. Working in a certain environment and having certain colleagues and "clients" and demands placed upon you produces a certain kind of person.

I'm not criticising police force members there, I'm just putting forward a point about rigid institutions.

Edit: the two posts above are actually making the point that I was trying to make, in a way.


 
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I've been stopped 4 times in my life, breathalysed once. Deserved being stopped twice, been unfairly picked up once. The time I was breathalysed was new year last year and I also got me 3 points for an unrelated offence which, while I thought wasn't really "fair" was indeed deserved in the eyes of the law. The police were courteous and not at all aggressive, though I did feel they were showing the new guy in the team how zero tolerance works. Previously I've been pulled for a routine search where they politely asked me where I was heading at 3am and if they could search my car. I said yes and enjoyed a chat for 10 minutes while his colleague rooted through my car, checked under the arches etc. Previous to that i got stopped for having a light out and handed a FPN, again they were perfectly courteous. My only negative experience was a jumped up little squirt in Liverpool who not only stopped me for a nonsense non-offence but didn't like me pointing out I did nothing wrong, that he was wrong and that he was clearly just acting up in front of his buddies in the van. He threatened to "find something wrong" with my car if I didn't stop arguing. I stopped arguing after pointing out that he was wrong and left him to hunt over my car. He let me go, but that was the first time I really met a cop I thought was a complete idiot. The fact that none of his mates in the van would back him up when I pointed out his mistakes proved the point that they thought he was a bit of a boob too.


 
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Back when I was a nipper in Cornwall I once got stopped driving down a country lane after a night out.

The copper looked in my window, asked me where I'd been, etc and then just asked to breathe in his face. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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Some cops are noobs
Some cops are not
Some it guys are noobs
Some it guys are not
Some mechanics are noobs
Some mechanics are not


 
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I've just returned to this...

jimbobrighton, WTF? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
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Obviously plenty of coppers are sound and it's a difficult job but I had a bad experience with the Police when I was younger (still have no idea what it was about but certainly wasn't anything to do with me) which has always made me slightly wary of them since.

I sometimes see them winding people up for no reason and then arresting them on those Cops TV or Police Action shows or whatever they're called and that's on camera ffs, so it's pretty obvious what some of them are like when they're not being filmed for a TV show.


 
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When a cop stops you the correct answer is " yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir" that way you don't get hassle.

Get out of the car / off your bikes. stand small and look meek.

I have got off with a load of stuff doing this.


 
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*makes mental note not to fall for TJ's tricks next time he comes up this way - zero tolerance*

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