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Haven't read it in a while but was very moved by it. As usual, the book is far better than the film IMHO.

Both book and film brought back several nightmares I had as a child about Armageddon during the Cold War!!


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 8:43 am
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I'm probably a sucker for more of a back to nature feel rather than post apocalyptic nihilism.

Indeed - the description of the wolf (and [i]that[/i] dog fight, where she & Billy make their stand) in [i]The Crossing[/i] is particularly outstanding, as is CM's more general feel for landscapes. He's able to convey immense grandeur without being remotely sentimental: no matter how often I read it, the ending of [i]The Crossing[/i] - the near-geological sadness of it - still demolishes me. By any standard, even by those of his American predecessors (and CM surely warrants comparison with Faulkner, etc), he is an absolutely outstanding writer.

As for the absence of hope... I disagree, although there's no disguising the general bleakness (murderous characters, indifferent Nature). In many respects, the semi-autobiographical [i]Suttree[/i] is hugely uplifting - a man living life at near-rock bottom, without losing either his dignity or humour. The relationship between the father & son in [i]The Road[/i] is almost unbearably gripping, but it's probably my least-favourite of his books. I actually find [i]Blood Meridian[/i] to be the most apocalyptic of 'em all - I mean, who could ever adequately portray the Judge on film? 😯


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:43 pm
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Just bought Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson which looks promising.

That was weird. Brilliant, but at the same time rambling and not really a story about anything; more like just a series of characters and events.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 1:11 pm
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Northwind, it's not about "what happens" though really, it's about a dying man's struggle to ensure the survival of his son.

Which he... doesn't. Actually he just wobbles along as scripted events unfurl, then predictably as soon as he dies yet another perfectly timed and incredibly unlikely intervention happens.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 4:26 pm
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Don't want to ruin it for those yet to read it, but I took a different view of the ending of the Road. Perhaps it's so unlikely an intervention as to make you question it? Suppose it's a question of optimism and pessimism.

I liked All The Pretty Horses a great deal, but struggled with the joylessness of the Crossing and haven't started Cities of the Plain as a result.

Blood Meridian has a lot of fans, but not sure I've got the stomach for some of the scenes depicted..


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 4:38 pm
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Which he... doesn't. Actually he just wobbles along [b]as scripted events unfurl[/b], then predictably as soon as he dies yet another perfectly timed and incredibly unlikely intervention happens.

It's a frickin novel. What else did you expect?


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 4:51 pm
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If you like McCarthy then you should pick up a copy of Butcher's Crossing by John Williams IMO


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 5:22 pm
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The Road is my least favourite of the Cormac McCarthy books I've read.

It lacks the epic sweeping beauty of The Border Trilogy which is by far my favourite.

IMO one of the 10 best writers alive today.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 5:30 pm
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It's a frickin novel. What else did you expect?

I'd like for things to be remotely convincing. I find it very hard to get involved in a novel when it's this ridiculous, it undermines everything. No sense of threat or jeopardy or progress which means that the characters actions and subsequently motivations become meaningless.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:08 pm
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Goodness knows how you made it to the end.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:14 pm
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Luckily it wasn't very long. And I did hope that it might get better, since I did enjoy the writing. Instead,it got worse. Never mind.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:16 pm
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Surely you must have realised when you got, say three quarters through, that it was that ridiculous that it was beyond saving...just one predictable, scripted episode after another?


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:19 pm
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Instead,it got worse

This here is your meta-fiction moment... everybody has a novel, uuh, inside them - & you can give us [i]Reading The Road[/i]: a grim struggle, an arduous journey, as you battle with the unscripted events that come your way. 😀


 
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😆


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:22 pm
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there are actual end of level bosses

This is a very fair criticism of [i]The Road[/i] - and I suspect it's why some CM super-fans don't like it asmuch as his other books (i.e. he could have won the Pulitzer Prize for something else...). But when I read it, I was so utterly transfixed by the father-son relationship & their desperate love, I simply ignored the book's [potential] flaws. I have absolutely zero paternal instincts - and I was fugging howling by the end.

Also, the very last passage is stunning - a kind of eulogy for the American landscape.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:39 pm
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I read 'The Road' when I was coming down with pneumonia - it freaked the hell out of me. The ending was a surprise, certainly.

'The Crossing' was unrelentingly bleak. You naturally want the characters to do well, to be repaid for noble deeds, but it just gets worse and worse.

I enjoyed 'No Country for Old Men' the most. The film is an excellent representation of the novel.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:43 pm
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The film is an excellent representation of the novel

Aye - trust the the Coen Bros to get it right.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 6:45 pm
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Surely you must have realised when you got, say three quarters through, that it was that ridiculous that it was beyond saving...just one predictable, scripted episode after another?

Nah, sometimes the earlier failings of a novel are paid off, setting up some change of direction or style later on, or just worth it for some other aspect of the book. And there were parts I enjoyed, I just think they were outnumbered. (also, I'm terrible at stopping a book once I've started... I mean, I kept going with the wheel of time ffs and that was like having nails hammered into your brain)


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 7:07 pm
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Ok, it was just that you said it was "awful".

I have so little time to read these days that if I'm getting the impression a book is awful, I put it down - I got caught out reading shit books when I got talked into a book club type shite affair a few years back. Never again. 😡 But fair dues for persevering...seems like the book carried some chink of hope somewhere. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 7:19 pm
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I got talked into a book club

I just [i]know[/i] that you really belong in Arts-ville, er, Southville.

Join us... 😀

As an aside: I quite enjoyed [url= http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/jan/27/broadcasting.tvandradio ]this series[/url], some years back.

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Posted : 05/01/2014 7:38 pm
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I read it a few years ago in one sitting also as couldn't put it down. Still one of the most memorable books I've read and the film is good but I just think when you read an amazing book the film can't come close. Haven't read a good book in ages..need some suggestions!


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 8:08 pm
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Thank you for this thread and introducing me
Haven't had time to do much reading in the last 5 or so years, hence I've only just discovered CM
Off to get a load more of his books now


 
Posted : 18/01/2014 10:52 am
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hence I've only just discovered CM

You have much to look forward to. 😀


 
Posted : 18/01/2014 2:42 pm
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Just searched for this thread to get myself some reminders for a good read for my hol next week. Have ordered Pretty little horses and Swan Song which was tough to track down in print! Selling for £30 odd quid 2nd hand on Amazon but found myself a sneaky copy for £3.70 on ebay. Do love a good apocalyptic story especially when on a beach!


 
Posted : 29/01/2014 9:02 pm
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Don't buy 'em. I've got most of 'em.


 
Posted : 29/01/2014 9:56 pm
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Pretty little horses

You want 'All the pretty horses'.......


 
Posted : 29/01/2014 10:31 pm
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Pretty little horses

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McCarthy guest-writing an episode of [i]Father Ted[/i] would be a thing of beauty...


 
Posted : 29/01/2014 10:35 pm
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iain1775

Don't buy 'em. I've got most of 'em.

How does that help?


 
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