[Closed] Job trial at Kitchen designers as Trainee Joiner, Advice Please!

1 - Believe in your abilities.

2 - Measure twice, cut once.

1 - Believe in your abilities.

2 - Measure twice, cut once.

1. I'm not 100% sure of my abilities!

2. Standard!

I'm really pleased you went for it. Well done mate. When you're in there, be yourself, as long as that's attentive, hard working and fast to pick up on things. If given something to sand (for example), do it well and do it as fast as yo can without making a mistake. The minute you've finished a task, find who get you need to and ask for more work. Ask for r feedback on what you're doing during the days and try to improve based on it. Remember, they are not expecting a cabinet maker from the start!

Good luck!

I can't help but think it'll go wrong.

Get that out of your head. Focus on this : "[i]I'll be doing basic stuff".[/i] So it's stuff you are perfectly capable of doing. They will expect you to be nervous/needing to prove yourself, they just want to see what you are capable of, so just show them.

As a site carpenter I have some workshop experience but it is very limited. The obvious advise is to check and double check everything before committing yourself to any machining, repetitive mistakes can be very embarrassing and expensive!

If you're not sure ask, don't take a chance. If you are worried that it will make you look a little dumb then point out that you are only asking because you want to double check and not get it wrong - remember, we all make mistakes. Just try to avoid making yours during your 2 day trial period 🙂

Seriously, if you're going to be doing "basic stuff" and you have NVQ 2&3 in Hand Crafted Furniture you will be fine. As a trainee joiner they won't be expecting you to be capable of the same level of work as a fully trained joiner. But have confidence in yourself otherwise you will screw up.

Good luck, let us know how you got on 🙂

Best wishes on the job trial, probably they have taken people on who didnt make the grade on the bench.

Be yourself,think, ask for help in using new machinery,measure twice and then again before cutting anything,

and dont wear a tie, theyre dangerous with powered tools.

Fantastic. Well done. Be realistic and honest with them. College environment is very different to a busy joinery shop. Explain to them that you've not been in that environment for some time but are very keen to learn and be interested.
As mentioned, they won't be expecting you to be incredible, just take your time, ask questions and do your best.
Best of luck.

2 day work trial will also allow you to decide if a joinery shop is for you. lots of standing up and highlevels of concentration, been there and got the certificates.

Best of luck! I remember your thread a while ago mentioning this change of direction.

You'll be fine!

Good luck and go for it.

They wont just be looking for what you can technically do, but also that you have the enthusiasm to pick up new stuff.

Be positive and show that you're up for anything.

Basic stuff, but make sure you turn up early (traffic, etc) and dont be in a rush to leave at the end of the day.

Dude go in there Monday, take a deep breath and do your best, sounds like you made a good impression already.

Wishing you the best luck, go do it.

Just take your time and do a good job ...don't be rushed by others who have been doing it for years ....quality end result is key .........and best of luck

I don't work in a workshop environment so can't give specific advice, but well done, it must be a great feeling!

Just listen to the experienced guys, and don't worry. It's joinery, if it's good enough for Jesus.... 😀

If I was your manager on Monday, I'd be looking for someone who didn't make any mistakes, not the quickest. So ask, ask and ask again until you're sure you know what you have to do. I'm sure you have the skills to do the job, but the pressure may get to you so take your time and get it right.
Good luck!

Really pleased for you OP, it must be a great feeling to get a chance to do something you love. I know nothing of joinery or the workshop environment, but just be polite, ask questions and have confidence in your skills.

The best of luck to you and I hope it goes well 🙂

Been cabinet making 25 years I've seen plenty if trainees , just do your best hope it goes well!

Remember your 'elf & safety.

And, if they send you to the stores to get something you've never heard of before, be afraid. Very afraid... 😉

Great news OP.

Lots of great advice above - and remember, whatever the outcome, enjoy yourself.

Best of luck!!!

Thanks for all the advice,
Basically summed up,
1. Be yourself
2. Believe in yourself
3. Be enthusiastic

I'm almost certain I can do these things!
Still bricking it!

Clearly think you will fit in/have the right attitude.

Sounds like they just want you to prove you know which the pointy end of a chisel.

Well?

Still got all your fingers?

I think he fell into the extraction....

Are we talking DeVol by any chance? I work in the industry but as a self employed installer. DeVol seem to be expanding a lot recently.

My experience of trials is that if you turn up on time, are honest, hard working and don't p1ss everyone off you'll be fine. You can teach skills but not attitude and aptitude...

Remember its a job for a
[b]Trainee Joiner[/b]
so they won't be expecting miracles from you. And simply by showing the keen-ness of travelling there to hand in your CV shows a level of enthusiasm that they will probably be surprised to see. Keep up that level of enthusiasm and you will be fine.

Well?

Perhaps he can't type ?

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Those long stands can be hard to find, he'll twig eventually.

Bare in mind the last physical job I had was around 5 years ago, The last two days reminded me of those after work aches, First after work bath in a while!

Trial went well, I was part of the team fixing the segments together, installing fascias, hanging doors, repairing dents etc etc,

Not really what I expected but was interesting at times, Got on with the job, asked other folks for help when I needed it, Friendly and hard working team.

Workshop managers feed back was positive,
Expecting a call from the big boss today with details of offer.

Despite the work been intense I enjoyed it, Hoping I could move my way towards the wood side of the workshop in time but it's all experience.

All this said, they seem to have one obstacle with me....College (Mondays & Tuesdays 9-4.30), They want me full time, I'm 2 months into my NVQ 2 in Site carpentry, there's been talk of subsidizing me for the remainder of the year,

I'm really not happy about this, I've started the course and don't want to rule out Site in the future, particularly as I'm very interested in the Heritage/ restoration side of site.

From my point of view I have an issue, Cost of travel,
If they can work with me around college, I'll need to be doing 30+ hours weekly, I'll have to get a second vehicle, something I can barely afford on my current wage let alone taking a pay cut and having added costs of fuel for the daily 40ish mile round trip.

Are we talking DeVol by any chance?

I'd wouldn't like to disclose but I will say yes, this company is rapidly expanding.

Thanks for the update, glad your 2 day trial period went well 🙂

I'm really not happy about this, I've started the course and don't want to rule out Site in the future, particularly as I'm very interested in the Heritage/ restoration side of site.

Stick to your guns would be my suggestion. I would be suspicious of any firm which didn't encourage their trainees to attend college. Having said that, the first 2 days of every week does sound like a lot.

To be fair after speaking to the boss today, he did say he understood my desire to stay at college, offering me a 32hour contract,
problem is even at 32hours I'm going to really struggle with the £7ph and added travel costs.
Said I'd call him back by tomorrow.

really struggle realistically meaning I can't afford it.

That's tough. No chance for overtime?.

Limited, as I'd already be working almost all available workshop hours bar the Monday/tuesday I'm at college, potentially extra hour each morning.
5.30am start each day, maybe I should man up!

Taco, where abouts are you based? I might know of another company you might be interested in??

New Basford/ Sherwood area.

Ahh, this is Northwest based. sorry

Take the job and see if you can finish college as a night class?

The night class is a good idea, thats what i did and you'll find most night school students are more interested in learning than grinding the tips of chisels flat!

Excellent idea if my college did the night course but they don't 😥

read this thread a few days ago with interest....

i'm a chippy... i started out with the idea of going to college and was already signed up before i got in with a firm. i went along for a few weeks before jacking it in and going full time.

my reasons were that i needed/wanted more money and that so many of the old hands had told me that you learn (earn?) more and more quickly on the job than by spending two days a week at college learning the theory.

the company (new builds and restorations) i started with gave me a good leg up, as it were, and through them i met lots of other guys, mostly self-employed and spent a few years working with various guys doing different jobs. everything from shuttering, framing, roofing, joisting, flooring, fitting stair cases, studding out, hanging doors, fixing skirting, fitting kitchens, banisters, decking, putting up fences... pretty much all aspects of carpentry as far as building a house is concerned.

now i'm seen to have fallen into event type stuff, the occasional bit of film work, still fitting the odd kitchen or floor and lots of high end trade fair/exhibition stuff.

don't really know what i'm trying to say other than i don't have a single piece of paper to my name that says i'm qualified to do any of those things....

hasn't been a problem yet and i've been plodding along for the last 12 years like it. my only worry is that the GF is looking at a job in the States and if i want to go with her i might come unstuck...

I've got old boys at college doing the nvq as they are been rejected on certain jobs for not having the paper.

The wife and I are considering Canada/NZ in the future, the NVQ will add a significant amount of points in any application.

i think that was my point... you can get away without having the paper work, but if you need it and you don't have it you'Re buggered.

suppose i may have to marry her if i want to tag along.

suppose i may have to marry her if i want to tag along.

"The door is certainly not closed for you here"
- A unattainable opportunity that has helped clarify for me that I've got the skills to do what needs to be done.

Here's to moving forward.