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The Labour leader was dogged by accusations of antisemitism for much of the summer after The Times’s revelation that he had hosted an event comparing Israel to the Nazis.
Was that the event where a Jewish concentration camp survivor compared the actions of Israel to that of the Nazis. It must be really hard to silence the voice of a Jewish man, who survived the Nazi concentration camps, by screaming "anti Semite" in his face, apart from it isn't hard at all for the lying scumbags of the alt-right and their apologists.
In other non-news, he’s banging on about scrapping hospital parking charges again. Comments from many that places where no parking charges apply end up being used as commuter parking taking up space for patients and visitors.
Hospital parking in Scotland was made free by the SNP - apart from the 3 hospitals that Labour had built under PFI and which therefore have outstanding parking contracts that can't be cancelled.
The problem is that the Simon Wiesenthal Centre is right: Labour under Corbyn is sheltering raving anti-semites, and Corbyn won't do anything about it because he's so simplistic in his thinking. He's incapable of believing that an oppressed group (like Muslim women) might also have oppressive ideas (like "the Jews" will attack you if you support Palestine, as some people on this thread believe), so when they say something shitty, he doesn't recognise it as anti-semitism.
I used to think Corbyn is just woefully stupid and naive eg the PLO flower laying ceremony. Now it's clear that Corbyn is himself an anti-semite - the "they haven't lived here long enough to get our sense of humour" comments make that clear.
By completely failing to resist the Tories on austerity, Brexit and their billion pound giveaway to Prod extremists, Corbyn is a greater threat to the UK than JRM and the Tories are. How the sweet fuxking Jesus is Labour not demolishing the Tories in the polls?
The problem is that the Simon Wiesenthal Centre is right: Labour under Corbyn is sheltering raving anti-semites, and Corbyn won’t do anything about it because he’s so simplistic in his thinking.
Have these people been reported to the police? If they have not why have they not, people obviously know exactly who they are.
On the wreath laying, why do we not know so much about the Tory peer who was there too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corbyn_wreath-laying_controversy
Have a read about who was also at the events that the likes of the mail have reported on, quite a lot of tories at times, still that never makes the headlines does it.
Wasn't one of his cheif Jewish establishment critics in the UK also one calling for some very extreme treatment of Palestinians during marches in Israel?
How the sweet fuxking Jesus is Labour not demolishing the Tories in the polls?
Because of the power of the right wing media to scare people that Carbyn is going to turn the UK into a communist state. They then use the friend of terrorist tag to help with the discrediting of him.
I think that as we can't get inside Corbyn's head we'll never know for sure if he's antisemitic. And there's always the alternative possibility based on observation of his performance in politics over half a century; he's naive, not very bright, xenophobic, an unrealistic idealist and easily duped. Which is perhaps why his core supporters feel empathy with him. 🙂
In Europe he seems incapable of relating to anyone who isn't from the far left. Whenever I see stuff about him in European news it's because he's been supporting/talking to some far left minority leader rather than the people in power. Melonchon in France, the hard left Germans, Greeks, Italians, Spanish... . Generally people who are also anti-EU. He doesn't want cooperation with other EU countries, just other fellow revolutionaries who also happen to be nationalistic and isolationist in their revolutionary plans.
I think that as we can’t get inside Tommy Robinson's head we’ll never know for sure if he’s racist.
FIFY
Nope Cranberry he does seem to publicly go for it....
https://newsthump.com/2018/08/14/jeremy-corbyn-laid-wreath-for-hans-gruber-outside-nakatomi-plaza/
Out of interest where did the news story you started with come from? Not seen it in any feeds I follow.
and not to go all JHJ
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/04/liam-fox-meets-philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte
Liam Fox’s declaration of “shared values” with Rodrigo Duterte, the Philippines leader whose war on drugs has killed 7,000 people, has prompted dismay about the government’s approach to human rights as it seeks post-Brexit trade deals.
Who is meeting who, and what list do you have to be on for it to be OK?
Have these people been reported to the police? If they have not why have they not, people obviously know exactly who they are.
Yes they have thanks to a leak and they are being investigated
Yes they have thanks to a leak and they are being investigated
But hang on everyone knew who they were and that they existed before that? How come not one of these people on here reported them?
Also if you have the list of events politicians should not attend please post it up.
But hang on everyone knew who they were and that they existed before that? How come not one of these people on here reported them?
I know a fair few anti semetics, along with a good smatering of racists, sexists ect,ect. But untill they express themselves in a manner that can be construed as criminal whats to report ? An assumption based on an accumulation of minor actions might be true, but hopefully isn't something the police should be interested in......yet.
We can't get inside Corbyn's head to discover if he's an anti-semite, so we'll just have to judge him by his words, actions and omissions.
"On the wreath laying, why do we not know so much about the Tory peer who was there too?"
Because he only went to the conference and not the wreath laying (as your source states), and because he's not the leader of the Opposition.
"Wasn’t one of his cheif Jewish establishment critics in the UK also one calling for some very extreme treatment of Palestinians during marches in Israel?"
Weird that you think Corbyn's failures can be excused by the greater sins of some Jewish person. It's that kind of whataboutery that the Labour Party's been using to win hearts and minds...
I really don't think it's as obvious that Corbyn is antisemitic as it's obvious Tommy Robinson (or whatever his real name is) is racist, Cranberry. Corbyn is neither consistent nor particularly credible as an antisemite, hence the media debate. I haven't seen anyone doubting Robinson's racist credentials.
I typed five words into Google to sum up the views of left-wing antisemites I've known (I've known right-wing anti-semites too sometimes with remarkably similar views). This article was the first result, it does a pretty good job of putting what I've observed into words without me having to use my own words:
Another thought, I was very much against the invasion of Iraq and believe that Tony Blair should be tried for war crimes. I hope that doesn't make me anti-protestant (because the British monarch, the Queen, is head of state, head of the Church of England and commander in chief of the British armed forces) or anti-catholic (because Blair is a catholic and his religious beliefs a strong source of motivaiton to him).
Blair only realised he was Catholic once he wasn't Prime Minister any more and he didn't have any further responsibility for management of the Church of England. In 2002, it was Blair who effectively chose Rowan Williams as the new Archbishop of Canterbury.
“Wasn’t one of his cheif Jewish establishment critics in the UK also one calling for some very extreme treatment of Palestinians during marches in Israel?”
Weird that you think Corbyn’s failures can be excused by the greater sins of some Jewish person. It’s that kind of whataboutery that the Labour Party’s been using to win hearts and minds…
No, but it is really interesting that the guy called on repeatedly to be outraged at something, appears to be a bit of a shitty person who has some fairly extreme views himself.
Blair only realised he was Catholic once he wasn’t Prime Minister any more and he didn’t have any further responsibility for management of the Church of England.
🤣🤣🤣
Nice one there....
"it is really interesting that the guy called on repeatedly to be outraged at something, appears to be a bit of a shitty person who has some fairly extreme views himself."
Incomprehensible.
Well one word answers, and still no actual antisemitism directly from Corbyn.
Because there is none. Some Labour party members will be antisemitic, some will be homophobic, some will be overly religious etc,. just as in any other party. Still, let's just focus on a Labour party issue to see what damage can be done (turns out very little as most people either didn't believe it or didn't really seem to care)
I just wrote out the reasons why he and his anti white liberalist extremist followers should be classed as a mental disorder and hung for treason etc but thought better of it. There's a chance there's a bunch of Communist Corbyn supporters on this forum that hate the English and it's heritage as much as he does 😀
hung for treason etc but thought better of it.
It's 'hanged'.
And 'its' heritage.
Clearly you don't have a great relationship with English either.
that hate the English and it’s heritage as much as he does
You may be right, I would guess that if I met you I would hate you based on the crap you have just written. Also not really bothered by heritage either.
I aint no communist (certainly a Socilaist) but i truly hate the flag waving (George Cross bollocks) white van man, fat lardy ****s that perpetuate such bollocks.
But then i am a Northumbria so i fundamentally have an historical fight with pretty much everyone.
England for the English... your welcome fat boys drink your stella and crack on.
And by the way most of these English "folks" dont have a clue how to spell heratige
Christ i cant find the words to extrapolate how much this "English" shite winds me up.
Anglo Saxon, Dane, Norman, Pict, Celt pick one and **** off.
Top 10 anti-semitic incidents of 2018
.. and a bonus link:
40% of British jews thinking of leaving if Labour win power
And by the way most of these English “folks” dont have a clue how to spell heratige
In that particular glass house...
Socilaist
your welcome
i am a Northumbria
😁
That link appears too be lacking in any actual antisemitism carried out by Corbyn.
The Irony being that cranberry himself joined the labour party just to voted for Corbyn & came on this very thread to brag about it.
Why would you vote for Corbyn to become leader of HM opposition, when it seems that you are so certain he is an antisemite ?
Top 10 anti-semitic incidents of 2018
Corbyn in at number 4 on a worldwide list can only be good news really. It just shows how few anti-Semitic incidents there must have been in 2018.
"That link appears too be lacking in any actual antisemitism carried out by Corbyn."
It's his failure to do anything about antisemitism that puts it into the top 10. Corbyn is unlikely to be throwing bricks through any synagogue windows, but he has made softsoaped and ignored antisemites inside the party he leads, frustrated efforts by others to address antisemites, made it clear he doesn't consider British Zionists to be really British, and been happy to speak at events with rabid anti-semites.
It's bizarre that so many Corbynistas are preoccupied with no-platforming even moderate rightists and gender traditionalists, but at the same time see absolutely nothing wrong with Corbyn sharing platforms with actual literal fascists.
Corbyn sharing platforms with actual literal fascists.
Actual prime ministers have been doing it for years but I've never seen it done as dumb as a top ten.
Who the hell decides something is more heinous than something else?
And that goes for all atrocities. And by that reckoning Corbyn shouldn't be in there. It's a political statement at best.
It’s his failure to do anything about antisemitism that puts it into the top 10
No, it is people with an agenda that puts him into the top 10.
It’s his failure to do anything about antisemitism that puts it into the top 10
So where's the list of politicians that support politically & militarily dictators that preside over regimes of torture, starve millions of civilians & have dissenting journalists dismembered whilst still alive ?
Indeed, I voted for Corbyn, to do to the labour party what they always try to do to the country - wreck it. Patience is a virtue.
I would _never_ have voted for him if had known in advance that so many race haters and apologists would have bobbed to the surface, like turds in a pan. But then again, maybe it is better that these things are out in the open, and people can see what sort of individuals they are dealing with.
Hope Not Hate has called Atzmon “an antisemite who has promoted the works of Holocaust deniers.” He blamed Grenfell Tower tragedy on “Jerusalemites” and has stood accused of Holocaust denial by human rights lawyer Adam Wagner. He has openly said “I despise the Jew in me and detest the Jew in you”.
That link appears too be lacking in any actual antisemitism carried out by Corbyn.
Of course, because when prodded, the best that shills like hopelesscase can come up with is guilt by (distant) association and just making stuff up.
Indeed, I voted for Corbyn, to do to the labour party what they always try to do to the country – wreck it. Patience is a virtue.
I would _never_ have voted for him if had known in advance that so many race haters and apologists would have bobbed to the surface,
Keep digging.....
The Corbynistas are quite chuffed to have so called Anti-Semitism to use as a distraction. It's will cost hardly any votes and it keeps other things out of the media:
This for instance:
Also Corbynomics/Trumpynomics is not going so well in the USA:
https://www.ft.com/content/c059d13b-e3d4-4fe2-85c9-d55bd6494fec
Late cycle stimulas isn't the Panacea Corbynistas tell us it is. Who'd have thunk it. Corbyn and Trump wrong, every other serious economist in the world right.
"Corbynomics/Trumpynomics"
LOL.
Corbynomics/Trumpynomics
Hard to see what Corbyn's economic plans have in common with Trump's $1tn tax giveaway for the rich?
Hard to see what Corbyn’s economic plans have in common with Trump’s $1tn tax giveaway for the rich?
Trump and Corbyn's economic plan is identical: Keynesian stimulus on steroids with the difficult bits forgotten about.
Grow the deficit betting that will stimulate growth thus err, shrinking the deficit.
Grow the deficit betting that will stimulate growth thus err, shrinking the deficit.
Is't the Corbyn plan to keep taxation on those that can afford it without punishing low earners and cutting services, while wildly reducing the level of government and cancelling everything except walls and big guns. In fact the deficit would increase by helping people and actually providing useful stuff.
Highlighting exactly how different the 2 philosophies are really, unless you want to try and boil them down to a tiny soundbite.
In fact the deficit would increase
That's what most People/Economists seem to think, but Corbynomics says otherwise. As I say, what happens to the USA deficit will give us some idea if you're right, or if Corbyn's right. I'm betting on you being right - our kids will be picking up the tab for our spending.
our kids will be picking up the tab for our spending
You see it as spending, I see it as enabling a fair society. All depends what you want and what you want others to have I suppose.
our kids will be picking up the tab for our spending
Triple Lock on Pensions anyone......
As I say, what happens to the USA deficit will give us some idea if you’re right, or if Corbyn’s right.
As I said.... Unless he plans to slash services, cut departments and give huge tax cuts to the well off it's not the same policy, the overall summary number might look similar but the overall direction could not be more different.
The Corbynistas are quite chuffed to have so called Anti-Semitism to use as a distraction. It’s will cost hardly any votes and it keeps other things out of the media:
This for instance:
I like how you support your hypothesis ("keeping things out of the media") by linking to a popular newspaper.
"As I say, what happens to the USA deficit will give us some idea if you’re right"
Absolute gibberish. Trump's tax cuts aren't stimulus.