Jeremy Corbyn

enfht - Member
If any comrades haven't voted for our Marxist chancellor yet you'd better run along now, polling stations close in less than an hour.

Looks like enfht's rallying call may have backfired somewhat. 😆

She is still a hypocrite [over education] and she still used words and phrasing she would not let a white person say to her about her culture.

Her legacy and what she has achieved is impressive ans she is clearly very very bright . The barriers of outright racism and sexism she has faced [ and still does] is deplorable ;that does not mean she gets a free pass to be a hypocrite.

Even better with May's hard Brexit mandate in tatters, maybe the damage to the UK can be mitigated

Do you think the Tories limping along in with the mad dogs of the DUP is in any way mitigating damage ? I voted conservative hoping for some stability during the brexit negotiations. I'd prefer a full on Labour victory to what we have now.
Yes and well done to Corbyn he far exceeded expectations. Teresa May best I say nothing.

DUP favour a soft brexit, which Im now hopeful for

EU have all said they will give us time to forma stable government

Maybot & Davis are desperate to push-on and cling to power , not because they care about the country, but because they care about themselves- once theyve started the negotiations they assume that theyll be finishing it?

Regardless of what Diane Abbott had done in the past, it's exactly that not matter how good she may have been. The position of Home Secretary isn't an honorary title and requires hard work and commitment. I don't believe that she was ill, more become lazy and failed to prepare. If she wasn't up to the position JC should have put someone else in who was, that is leadership.
As for the personal attacks no more than any of the others I thought it was pretty evenly split and most of it the usual childish bollocks but DA and TM were the ones setting themselves up for the abuse.

kimbers - Member
DUP favour a soft brexit, which Im now hopeful for

+1

As for the personal attacks no more than any of the others

Yes, of course.

i think its almost certainly true she is ill as she is not dumb ; she is able enough to handle the brief/any brief.

The personal attacks she gets are clearly more than what others get and many are motivated by racism and sexism

So is this a glowing indictment of Corbyn's leadership? I can't help thinking that although Labour have done well, they haven't done [i]that[/i] well. They are still a long way behind the Tories. What do we think? I'm guessing that he'll be around for a while longer! 🙂

10 DUP MPs? How much away do you really think they'll have over a soft brexit

I don't believe that she was ill, more become lazy and failed to prepare

Yes, she has just been lazy, that it is.

As for the personal attacks no more than any of the others I thought it was pretty evenly split and most of it the usual childish bollocks but DA and TM were the ones setting themselves up for the abuse.

What the hell have you been looking at to come to the conclusion that personal attacks were the same and from who?

I never said she was dumb but had become lazy.

So is this a glowing indictment of Corbyn's leadership? I can't help thinking that although Labour have done well, they haven't done that well. They are still a long way behind the Tories. What do we think? I'm guessing that he'll be around for a while longer!

If you at actual votes and not seats there's 792248 votes between the two main parties across the whole of the UK. That's not really many at all.

The DUP must be rubbing their hands. You guys remember that NI has no executive at the moment don't you? So while that's still going on, these terrorist apologists can shape NI policy in return for propping up a weak Tory government.

Please lets not have peace in NI as the price for Brexit/Tory govt.

Regardless of what Diane Abbott had done in the past, it's exactly that not matter how good she may have been.

I haven't the slightest idea what that's supposed to mean.

Please lets not have peace in NI as the price for Brexit/Tory govt.

It wouldn't be a surprise as May's final legacy, would it? Given her track record. 🙁

The DUP must be rubbing their hands. You guys remember that NI has no executive at the moment don't you? So while that's still going on, these terrorist apologists can shape NI policy in return for propping up a weak Tory government.

Calm down a little there, the recent history of Northern Ireland means that neither side stands up to political scrutiny well. If you want to look for a candidate with no 'potential' connection to paramilitaries then you'd have to vote green or alliance.

Stormont will have to reform, what this means is that the DUP may have to ditch Arlene Foster as FM.

DUP favour a soft brexit, which Im now hopeful for

You think so ? I know their language has softened a bit (in public anyway) but plenty of Ian Paisley still in the party.

Plenty of right wing nut jobs would see it as a price worth paying. They need a bête noir like never before.

As ransos pointed out elsewhere, the amount of irony in this deal is staggering.

mickyfinn - Member

If you at actual votes and not seats there's 792248 votes between the two main parties across the whole of the UK. That's not really many at all.

now let's imagine where we'd be if the established labour party hadn't spent the last 2 years telling us how rubbish jezza was. and you know, tried getting on with their ****ing job instead of queuing up to resign from the shadow cabinet.

Calm down a little there

There was a certain amount of irony in my post. If that was unclear, then accept my apologies.

now let's imagine where we'd be if the established labour party hadn't spent the last 2 years telling us how rubbish jezza was. and you know, tried getting on with their ****ing job instead of queuing up to resign from the shadow cabinet.

The irony is, maybot would not have called an election in those circumstances.

deadlydarcy - Member

Calm down a little there

There was a certain amount of irony in my post. If that was unclear, then accept my apologies.

Ahh, misread the tone.

I agree that there's a certain irony to the arrangement though.

DUP Brexit leaflet

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Ahh, misread the tone.

No, my bad.

now let's imagine where we'd be if the established labour party hadn't spent the last 2 years telling us how rubbish jezza was.

possibly, an interesting thought.

but let's not give the useless cowardly bastards too much credit...

I found my brain lapsing into an Ulster accent reading that leaflet.

JC performed way better than expected, and won way more seats than expected but I'm a bit staggered that this is regarded as good news for the Labour party.

Any decent Labour leader and front bench would have beaten this Tory administration with a landslide. (Except the election wouldn't even have happened because May wouldn't have dared chance it with a decent opposition.)

So this election proves he can't win even against an open goal but also ensures Labour will still be saddled with him in the next election.

Mind ewe, I can't see that cheering up Torys, it's a embarrassing disaster for them, and hard to forsee when it's going to stop being an embarrassing disaster.

Any decent Labour leader and front bench would have beaten this Tory administration with a landslide

Any decent Labour leader and front bench would have beaten this Tory administration with a landslide
biggest electoral swing for labour from one election to another and still the haterz want to hate

This is an interesting one: It shows you how quickly theinternet can spread 'facts'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40220032
Who knows. Jezza may well have energised the youth vote. It's just that, as yet, there isn't a shred of evidence that he has.

The position of Home Secretary isn't an honorary title and requires hard work and commitment.

Seems noone told the last incumbent this...

This is an interesting one: It shows you how quickly theinternet can spread 'facts'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40220032

He should have known 72% turnout of 18-24yos was highly unlikely, but was probably a bit excited.

Who knows. Jezza may well have energised the youth vote. It's just that, as yet, there isn't a shred of evidence that he has.

There's a reasonable amount of evidence, just no data yet.

It seems to me social media outgunned Murdoch and friends.

Now is the time to push that **** and his poisonous publications out of business. Boycotts like the scousers have done with The Sun.

His manipulation needs to become a public joke we all laugh at.

It seems to me social media outgunned Murdoch and friends.

I think the Daily Mail and co may just be preaching to the converted. Hard to know how effective their lies are with undecided voters?

Now is the time to push that **** and his poisonous publications out of business. Boycotts like the scousers have done with The Sun.

His manipulation needs to become a public joke we all laugh at.

Are you willing to boycott all Murdoch products?
Sky, broadband / tv, Fox films,FX, News corp, live sports events sponsored by him?

Ive done it since the Reebok / Macron foundations were laid with the exception of stealing via p2p fox films and the odd fx series so he still gets nowt from me

I think the Daily Mail and co may just be preaching to the converted

Are you willing to boycott all Murdoch products?
Sky, broadband / tv, Fox films,FX, News corp, live sports events sponsored by him?

It's not deliberate on my part but I can't think of a single penny he get's from me.

I once paid for a Charlie small time Isp provider for my mother, not a big internet user so lowish speeds, just so she could take a stab at modern communications and such, and they ended up being bought out by sky broadband.
The phonecall as to why i was cancelling the service was interesting to say the least

also boycotted them since that Sun headline when they showed themselves to be contemptible scum

It's not deliberate on my part but I can't think of a single penny he get's from me.

I nearly went to see the latest Star Wars film at the cinema, but didn't in the end.

I did join in the Manchester Sky Ride, so I suppose I may have inadvertently helped to make them look good for a day.

Sky, broadband / tv, Fox films,FX, News corp, live sports events sponsored by him?

Genuine question - why boycott live sports events sponsored by him? The rest I can understand as it avoids lining his pockets, but consuming an event he has paid to advertise at without giving any revenue back is a win surely (albeit a tiny inconsequential one)?