Jeremy Corbyn

No - unfortunately Leicester is represented by Keith vaz!

A fellow traveller, very appropriate

big_n_daft - Member

As it might not be as simple as the manifesto claims.
http://www.city.ac.uk/news/2016/may/why-british-law-doesnt-necessarily-apply-in-overseas-territories

**** it then lets not even bother trying. 🙄 Tax havens whats the damage really?

The implication is that nothing has been done, in fact work has and continues to be done, can more be done, yes, is it a party dividing issue?Not really, it's overblown by the OP

We don't have programmes on primetime TV mocking tax cheats, like we do with benefit claimants.

jambalaya - Member

My call is still a 75-100 seat majority

Depressingly, quite likely to be right. Lots of young voters tend to stay at home and not vote, while lots of older ones tend to go out and do their civic duty.

You get the government you deserve to some extent.

+ it turns out that Corbyn isnt the dithering old giffer that [s]the media[/s] Binners has been pushing since he became leader

FTFY

Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer....

Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in [s]heaven[/s] Ramsbottom over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.

Luke 15:7
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A fellow traveller, very appropriate

I thought Keith was a fellow travelling washing machine salesman?

jambalaya - Member
Corporate tax is so easy to avoid

These things are easy to avoid because of successive complicit governments, it's not a universal law that corporations are able to avoid tax. If the will was there the tax could be collected.

Need to end corporate collusion however.

Ireland is hardly the model tax strategy though is it, it has the IMF and EU warning that its tax base is so narrow it is as vulnerable to needing a bail out in the event of a down turn as it was previously

Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in [s]heaven[/s] Ramsbottom over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.

Luke 15:7

I have seen the light brothers and sisters

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To be fair to me, for all my incessant whining, I was only ever going to vote one way. As I'm more likely to lop off my own cobblers with a rusty chisel, stir fry them, then have them with some quinoa than even flirt with voting Tory

And doing this did amuse me....

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that off camera laugh
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Iirc Ireland are going to go be prosecuted/fined for giving apple or google a 0.5% rate.

What they didn't reckon on was the opposite being true for Corbyn

This 100%. Her entire incompetent, hubristic, and arrogant campaign has been based on the singular message that 'I'm not Jeremy Corbyn'. Trouble is that doesn't work when people start to see that Corbyn is not the extremist ogre that the media and the tories have portrayed.

Jesus! Just watched the footage of the Maybot malfunctioning on telly when asked about the TV debates. Her fake, forced rictus smile is starting to look a little familiar. Let's hope she's on a similar trajectory....

There's some good lines coming out of this debate no-show:
"The Tories realise that No Theresa May is better than a bad Theresa May"

It's all becoming a bit Alan Partridge isn't it? I'm almost beginning to feel sorry for her. Never have I seen a political leader become such an object of ridicule in such a short time.

If I was her and lost, I'd wake up the next day and think 'thank god that's over', I can get on with my life now.

I honestly belive she's set up her stall and now has no option but to pretend she can make a success of it, but secretly hope to fail and she can say 'well I tried' it was the 'will of the people'. And she can walk away.

Will Jeremy get to read his own MI5 file if he wins ?

Will Jeremy get to read his own MI5 file if he wins ?

They'd probably let him anyway, I doubt there is anything interesting in it!

Unless pottering in your allotment and cursing at next door who have grown bigger vegetables counts as interesting.

Amber Rudd must be loving this. This is her pitch to take over when the tories commit regicide. I wouldn't be surprised if Chairman May wasn't even given the choice to attend and they sent out Rudd instead. I predict there'll she'll be doing lots of damning with faint praise.

edit: probably wrong thread. *goes to the election thread*

Unless pottering in your allotment and cursing at next door who have grown bigger vegetables counts as interesting.

And too think, this morning he wasn't even going to be there and then turns up and plays a blinder

I paused it to cook dinner but Corbyn smashing it so far!

binners - Member

To be fair to me, for all my incessant whining, I was only ever going to vote one way. As I'm more likely to lop off my own cobblers with a rusty chisel, stir fry them, then have them with some quinoa than even flirt with voting Tory

And doing this did amuse me....

Ho. Ho. Ho. You had us all fooled with your deranged daily rantings about Corbyn.

I bet you could teach Boris Johnson a thing or two about stringing people along with your hilarious tomfoolery and buffoonery.

You cad.

Corporation tax revenue, the idea that it's inelastic is just wrong:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/22/corporation-tax-downward-trend-oecd-gdp-growth

Also, is Corporation Tax more/less progressive/regressive than VAT? Firms pay VAT on the stuff they sell and that's deemed regressive (rightly or wrongly) by many. Why is corporation tax any less regressive - the money ultimately comes from customers.

Corbyn doing well to be fair. That green party woman is making me want to vote for whoever will piss her off the most though!

@aa, JC is far from smashing it out of the park.
He's putting in a decent performance, but Nuttall and Robertson are doing a MUCH better job regardless of what you think of them or their views.

Farron has been poor, and greens + welsh have pretty much let themselves be sidelined.

Nutall is doing a good job 😯 if you mean look like a hate filled xenophobe then yes he is doing a great job
Otherwise I have no idea what you mean
He is doing the worst mainly because his views are awful

JC is doing ok no clear winner so far but some obvious losers

Are they still debating ...

Crikey, I have just switched on telly only to see BBC 1 ... BBC election debate again ... arrghhh ... Caroline Lucas still wipes the floor of shouty shouty Tim. 😆

Ok enough for 5 mins watching ... now I am switching to Location, Location, Location ... 😆

Chewy, you appear to have caught Tory repeataphrasitis

JC is far from smashing it out of the park.

I agree. Listening to him recently I've been thinking he's been really good in presentation terms in the campaign.

Watching the debate I realize I'd just got used to him and recalibrated my expectations.

Seeing him in a room full of 'proper' professional politicians you realize how utterly dreadful he is.

You cannot think corbyn looked bad there unless you have really blue glasses on and whoTF thinks nuttall looks professional or proper?

@Junkyard, you dont need to like someone or their views to evaluate if they've done a good job in a debate or not.

I'm never going to vote UKIP or SNP, but they've both done an excellent job making their respective points.

Against my expectations I really enjoyed Tim Farron's contributions 😯

Mods please deleted one of the duplicate thread above ... arrggh ... my pooter is playing up ... 😮

Pook - Member
Chewy, you appear to have caught Tory repeataphrasitis

It must be my pooter ... 😮

you dont need to like someone or their views to evaluate if they've done a good job in a debate or not.

Well can we all agree Jambo would have done a better job than Rudd?

Did you read my post? I said JC was doing a decent performance. Didn't really do much wrong, but didn't stand out either.

He was certainly better than Farron (who i'll most likely be voting for), the welsh and greens.

I thought Tim Farron did great; although I'd still never vote for Lib Dems.
Corbyn seems well up for the job ... he has gone from getting my vote reluctantly - to now getting it happily.

UKIP fella came across as too EDL ...

Rudd stood no chance. She looks almost as evil as Theresa May ... but less weak & wobbly.

Biggest plank had to be Leanne Wood though; totally speechless when asked about her plan to increase immigration in Wales ... absolutely no idea

fifeandy - Member
Did you read my post? I said JC was doing a decent performance. Didn't really do much wrong, but didn't stand out either.

Rudd stood no chance. She looks almost as evil as Theresa May ... but less weak & wobbly.

Good leadership pitch though...

@aa, Rudd didn't do that badly. Got her points across, did particularly well diffusing cuts to police numbers, but muddled her words a couple of times which was a bit clumsy.
Policies set aside, a very similar performance to JC.

[quote=fifeandy ]Did you read my post? I said JC was doing a decent performance.

My mistake apologies I was confusing you with someone else
Sorry

@Junkyard, you dont need to like someone or their views to evaluate if they've done a good job in a debate or not.

I'm never going to vote UKIP or SNP, but they've both done an excellent job making their respective points.

Yup. I think people who take a partisan tribal view of politics can't really comprehend that most other people don't.

Neil Kinnock's a first glass orator, Tony Blair would have utterly shone in the debate today. Red tinted glasses? Or just an objective opinion?