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Corbyn has very very few real polices. What he does have is an idea for his socialist utopia. Thats all a bit like "kinder gentler politics" which we hear little about now post all the racism issues Labour have so badly mismanaged and the agressive de-selection threats.
Labour are going to be crushed. The real question is what happens after the GE. If they don't change direction Labour in England is going to look like Labour in Scotland.
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Corbyn has very very few real polices.
Ah so now we're talking about 'real' policies. So tell me what is real about 'Red white and blue brexit'?
What he does have is an idea for his socialist utopia.
Yes because middle of the road policies like bringing the failed railways back into public ownership is hopelessly utopian, whereas ripping up 40 years of economic, cultural and political cooperation with our nearest neighbours in a misguided effort to revive a long-dead empire is entirely pragmatic and rational. You really never fail to amaze me with your lack of grasp on reality 🙂
CFH are you laughing at how hilarious it is for jambalaya to claim that Labour have a problem with racism when one of their leading politicians published an article saying black people have lower IQs, and called black people 'picanninies' with 'watermelon smiles'.?
Or when David Cameron tried to make out Sadiq Khan was a terrorist sympathiser because he's got a dark skin and a foriegn sounding name? Or when he went on a jolly to apartheid era South Africa.
Or the Tory councillor who said there were too many ****s in his town and wasn't reprimanded in any way?
Or when Oliver Letwin said black people had “bad moral attitudes”, and said schemes to help black people would be spent in “the disco and drugs trade” and employment programmes would only see black people “graduate … into unemployment and crime”.
The Conservative Party took no disciplinary action and Mr Letwin remains a government minister.
But yeah, it's Labour that has a problem with racism.
No. Was laughing at having tweaked your ire a little.
Childish fun. Sorry.
Corbyn has very very few real polices.
kinda like May's redwhitebluebrexitmeansbrexit brexit plans?
If molgrips is in North Cardiff today, he can go and visit Corbyn a bit later.
Genius idea by the Labour PR team to get Corbyn to talk about school sizes in England while visiting Wales 😯
Successful troll is successful. Well done you.
Pinochet killed thousands, tortured thousands more, locked up thousands more without trial
Because of course Pinochet, for all his faults, existed in a vaccum?
No surprise that you would be a Pinochet fan ninfan.
@dragon - yes, a masterpiece of planning '...... the number of infants in large classes had risen by 18% in three years in Wales.'
Then consider a BBC reality check - 1% of class sizes in english primary schools exceed the maximum; that doesn't suggest any great cause for concern.
A problem for all parties is that fact checking is now robust and through t'interweb past statements can be used to compare/contrast with shiny new policies.
I am really saddened by what the labour party has become; I will vote for Hilary Benn as he is a good constituency MP and represents what used to be good about labour. As we all know he was unacceptable to comrade jezza and fellow travellers so he was marginalised by them but he is still doing good work in chairing the brexit select committee. Wish there more like him.
He was marginalised by them because he was constantly undermining and plotting against the democratically elected leader of his party.
He was marginalised by them because he was constantly undermining and plotting against the democratically elected leader of his party.
Sounds familiar.
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Margaret Thatcher has much worse friends
Does she?
She does now.
Satan.
so he was marginalised by them
He marginalised himself first with his brazenly opportunistic support for bombing Syria in order to position himself as the next labour leader, and then put the final nail in his own coffin with his incompetently executed and ridiculously ill-timed putsch following the brexit vote. Before all this Corbyn made him shadow foreign secretary against the advice of many in an effort to build bridges with the moderates on the right. So please, put the violin away, Hillary Benn's position is entirely of his own making.
frankconway - MemberThen consider a BBC reality check - 1% of class sizes in english primary schools exceed the maximum; that doesn't suggest any great cause for concern.
Describing that as "robust fact checking" is ridiculous. It's not really fact checking at all- it doesn't address the argument. Even if [i]all[/i] schools were within capacity today an 18% rise over 3 years could overwhelm that.
So- actual fact checking. What capacity remains in the system, will the current increase continue, will current capacity be maintained. How many classes are over the maximum today isn't a critical factor (and that should be 0% of course) but still, how far over are they?
"That bath's going to overflow" "We robustly fact checked this and only 1% of baths are currently overflowing"
Where do you stand on Pinochet CFH?
You're welcome to your opinions chaps.
Dez - no violin from me; your endless corbyn cheerleading is tiresome.
Corbs has been working hard to get out the youth vote today, its key to his chances
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your endless corbyn cheerleading is tiresome
Always been an agnostic. I just don't go in for the silly loony left hysteria or ridiculous caricatures. If you look back through my comments you'll see I agree with the majority that he's not the right leader to win power back for labour. I do however largely agree with the policies.
Most of the people on here defending Corbyn don't even think he's that great. They're just tired of the outrageous bullshit that gets slung at him on a constant basis. It really is unprecedented.
I don't know how pervasive it is down south but up here it's the law, if you're campaigning you go to a primary school and get videoed talking to kids. It's really funny, because Nicola Sturgeon always looks terrified because she was clearly never a child, the kids always look terrified of Ruth Davidson while she's obviously having a great time painting stuff with her feet, and Kezia Dugdale... well, it makes you realise she'd be a great primary school teacher. And next time you hear her speaking to parliament in exactly the same way as she speaks to a 5 year old, you're just done. "We don't like the SNP do we boys and girls? They're mean"
That picture with Corbyn's fantastic. "It's a ****ing bear kids! This book's AMAZING". You know he made the same facial expression when he got elected leader- "Yes, I know I said I'd go on a bear hunt but only because I thought there was no chance we'd find one"
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any view on may changing her mind on holding an election what with it being a very recent and quick reversal of opinion
Oh how I have missed your pithy lightweight interventions into political threads
My MP called Italians "greasy wops"
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7454545.stm ]Alun Cairns[/url]
No seats in the packed classroom so he had to sit on the floor
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Thatcher and Pinochet, 2017's burning election issues.
Grum there are over 50 Labour members suspended due to racism, 1 Tory. Ken Livingstone - Corbyn's very big mate - is the poster boy for Labour's stance on racism. Corbyn could have dealt with the issue immediately post OULC but he just made the situation worse, much worse.
Nationalising the railways is a terrible idea (I hve been a commuter for 30 years). Just think Bob Crown clones running the train service. A disaster and a very expensive one
there are over 50 Labour members suspended due to racism, 1 Tory.
I know the foreign secretary called folk pickannienies with watermelons smiles and not a thing happened to him
Imagine if a labour party member had made racial slurs about jews, nothing happened and he became a cabinet minister.... Still when one party tackles the issue and the other ignores it we know which one to go after eh Jamby.
The reality is both parties have a tiny small minority of racists in them. neither party is inherently racist
But you keep telling us of all the times you have lived abroad and had to apply for visasI hve been a commuter for 30 years
what would you call what we have now cheap and effective 😯A disaster and a very expensive one
I'm currently sitting with 7 people on the floor, 5 standing, just in the vestibule on my 36 mins of pleasure ride home, i pay 5grand a year for the privilege, which is a sizeable chunk of my wages( i earn nowhere near 70 grand!).
Meanwhile Branson is kitesurfing with naked chicks on his back thanks to all those subsidies we pay the train companies.
That's why nationalising the railways is so popular, the profits are privatised but the costs are nationalised already !
Just booking in with East Coast for the first time since it was reprivatised. What's that you say, prices are up by twice the national average and twice the rate of inflation (even leaving aside the fact that they've removed some of the cheaper fare classes entirely)? Punctuality is down 4.9% despite slackening timetables? Customer satisfaction down 5%? And when it was publically run it had the highest customer satisfaction of all long-distance providers?
Still, could be worse, could be Southern.
So you aren't interested in paying the money for a safe service then? You'd rather they cut corners to save a few bob?
The railways have massively improved since they were privatised. They are still far from perfect, but way better than BR. And now they can get on with delivering a good, efficient service without worry about being used as a political football.
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In that case Corbyn is doing a great job and Labour can look forward to a landslide
There is a point where facts shatter our rhetoric
That statement is as far past it as yours
In that case Corbyn is doing a great job and Labour can look forward to a landslide
He is, and they are
Just not necessarily a landslide in their favour 🙂
dragon - MemberSo you aren't interested in paying the money for a safe service then? You'd rather they cut corners to save a few bob?
Wut? Even Virgin don't claim the price increases were to improve safety, and there's no evidence of corner cutting under DOR. Rail safety has been massively improved since Railtrack was binned and the network was renationalised under Network Rail.
BR has been gone for 20 years, lets make meaningful comparisons- like, for example, East Coast and Virgin East Coast, like I did. We actually do have state-owned rail operators all across the UK of course, just that it's France, Germany and the Netherlands.
Just wondering where Corbyn was on Apartheid when the Tories had Mandela down as terrorist scum.
Anyone know?
#Jambas2017burningissues
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big surge on corbyn at the bookies, wasted money are we sure??
at those odds worth a punt
Look at him, the dirty terrorist sympathiser. Imagine someone like that leading an opposition. I'm sure you're as disgusted as the rest of us. 😉
See, even all those years back he was crap at memes
So, ninfan, where was he on Apartheid when you and your likes were branding Mandela terrorist scum? You could try answering one question put to you on this forum...just once.
where was he on Apartheid when you and your likes were branding Mandela terrorist scum?
#Fakenews
Thatcher did more to end apartheid than anyone, Mandela was a communist (he was also a terrorist, but I don't know who you are claiming said he was "terrorist scum" so unless you can provide an actual quote, then I'm calling fake)
Go and educate yourself rather than relying on Sixth form poster campaigns.
http://www.commonwealthoralhistories.org/2015/interview-with-rf-pik-botha/
FRankly, allyouve got is that Thatcher opposed sanctions, because they didn't think they were the best solution (an argument that was confirmed in the Pik Botha interview above) and like all hysterical lefties you've spent thirty years twisting that round into some eternal whinging grievance brigade rally's-cry because you can't get over the fact that she kept winning elections and the left still cant win a single one (and hey... it looks like you're about to see that repeated too)
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Oh bollocks...the likes of Zulu and his fifteen other log-ins really aren't worth it this evening.
How odd, more fake news, I've never been married... (edit, oh, look, you've deleted it after spectacularly missing the mark, once again, he shoots, he misses...how amusing, even funnier to see you pouring out what appears to be years of stored up bile and resentment over someone on the internet and accusing [i]them[/i] of being angry 😉 )
Still, it's not like you wouldn't ever manage to get the details wrong is it... I refer you back to the Pik Botha interview above, since he was actually there and knew what happened with Thatchers intervention on apartheid, rather than relying on sixth form lectures for his knowledge of the issues
Botha and Thatcher had minor roles in all this as you know - although Botha was brave in what he did and his role helped avoid bloodshed. thatcher called mandela a terrorist altho that is now denied.
As above, I think it's remarkable how differently the people who were actually there view Thatchers involvement than the people who weren't.