[Closed] Jeremy Clarkson on the One Show

I don't know how anyone can get wound up by him - pretty much the same as Frankie Boyle or that other unfunny comedian Jimmy Whateverhisnameis - he is saying these things for comic effect. Whether or not we find him funny is irrelevant - he is clearly not 'inciting hatred' is he?

Does anyone think for a minute that anyone would act on his suggestions of shooting people, killing horses, boiling mermaids or whatever? Has anyone ever acted on his suggestions?

He is just a crap comedian.

dont think clarkson is funny but do find him amusingly watchable. maybe he should have a new show called

clarkson tells it like it is

90% of us would watch

I'm one of the 10%

No loss

Does anyone think for a minute that anyone would act on his suggestions of shooting people, killing horses, boiling mermaids or whatever? Has anyone ever acted on his suggestions?

Well, who knows? However, I would think it likely that somewhere among the Top Gear demographic there will be a number who think it's OK to despise and resent cyclists because Clarkson said something "funny" about them, and who go on to treat cyclists on the road a bit less considerately because of it.

im in the 10% too

he is just saying outrageous things because his publicists had warned him before going on camera that his projected dvd sales were looking weak this xmas.

does a loud mouthed celeb saying this kind of unpleasant stuff on primetine bbc1 give wasted mums on trams fuel for their own hatred filled rants

However, I would think it likely that somewhere among the Top Gear demographic there will be a number who think it's OK to despise and resent cyclists because Clarkson said something "funny" about them, and who go on to treat cyclists on the road a bit less considerately because of it.

What a load of BS

God knows how many times I've posted this link, but some people really need to read this an inwardly digest:

[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/17/comment.charliebrooker ]The offended people[/url]

Then have a cup of tea, and calm down dear 😀

Does anyone think for a minute that anyone would act on his suggestions of shooting people, killing horses, boiling mermaids or whatever? Has anyone ever acted on his suggestions?

No, but he needs to speak out against people who do, because they claim to represent people like him

What a load of BS

Why's that flow? You certainly seem to get your panties in a bunch quite easily.

has anyone seen that stewart lee sketch? if you know what i'm talking about post it please.

alex22
"He's not even a real hamster"
its on an earlier page

To anyone who says Clarkson isn't funny.....

I am pi55ing myself laughing at all this thread, and that's as a direct result of Clarkson.

Does that count ???

Just been on the news about it on the radio. Some woman comparing him to Gadaffi and saying they were considering legal action; bookies running bets on whether he'll be sacked by Christmas; David Cameron saying "he was being silly" (which is about the first sensible thing he's ever said).

Bloody ridiculous. JC's 'image' is just a character, a non-PC parody of himself, and his routine is no different to a standup comedian. Whether you think he's funny or not is a matter of debate, but anyone who thinks he was [i]seriously [/i]advocating the mass murder of protesters should have a good long look at themselves.

However, I would think it likely that somewhere among the Top Gear demographic there will be a number who think it's OK to despise and resent cyclists because Clarkson said something "funny" about them, and who go on to treat cyclists on the road a bit less considerately because of it.
What a load of BS

Johnners is right. Constant low-level reinforcement can make things acceptable or `effectively true'- you've only got to look at how road tax just won't die for a good example.

Views like cyclists being an annoying impediment to the true owners of the road are things that `everybody knows' precisely because they're regularly trotted out or implied by the media and people like Clarkson.

sorry i'm at work. the part i'm thinking of is Jeremy clarkson calling gordon brown a blind idiot.....stewart lee says 'i wish jeremy claksons children blindness.....'

He (Clarkson) must be rubbing his hands in glee now! bit on the BBC lunchtime news akin to some huge political turmoil!

Jeeeeeze!

I work in the public sector and I also hate Clarkson but I have to admit those comments made me smile a bit

I heard some fairly bigoted opinions being expressed yesterday about those on strike.

Opinions that those expresing them would be quite happy to accept, come straight from the Daily Mail.

Now, I am quite happy that many people disagree with the strike (or agree with it for that matter) - but find it all rather depressing when those opinions are willfuly ignorant of the real issues or facts that are under consideration.

Sadly, Clarkson plays to a considerable body of ignorant "middle England". Unfortunately, comments like these, on prime time TV, just serve to validate the opinions that these people hold.

So - whilst he may not be actually inciting some lunatic to go out and shoot strikers, he almost certainly will be reinforcing outdated social stereotypes within a social grouping that could do with a dose of more up to date thinking...

FWIW, I think the comments a year or two ago about lorry drivers killing prostitues was far more heinous, especially given the timing... but you do have to give a certain "audience leeway" for comments made on TG

I reckon his mate CallMeDave bet him he wouldn't say it.

Johnners is right. Constant low-level reinforcement can make things acceptable or `effectively true'- you've only got to look at how road tax just won't die for a good example.

Couldn't care less TBH, I don't take anything he says seriously.

Whether you think he's funny or not is a matter of debate, but anyone who thinks he was seriously advocating the mass murder of protesters should have a good long look at themselves.

Point missed.

We don't think he was actually advocating murder.

He was spreading nastiness in a particularly unpleasant way. People do get shot in front of their families, and it's not at all nice. So why joke about it?

Whatever joke was used, being so completely dismissive of other people's legitimiate grievances is also crass and insensitive.

Johnners is right. Constant low-level reinforcement can make things acceptable or `effectively true'- you've only got to look at how road tax just won't die for a good example.

But do you actually believe he is 'inciting hatred' as Unison appear to be claiming?

No, that's just daft- I don't think for a minute that he is actually calling for people to start polishing their rifles, and the Unions are massively overreacting by taking him even remotely seriously.

BUT I do think that the hard of thinking his shtick appeals to will probably have their Daily Mail view of striking public sector workers reinforced, and when he's banging on about cyclists (or whoever) on Top Gear the same thing will be happening.

EDIT- what rkk01 said really.

Personally I've always despised Clarkson and his little crowd of morons. And, I wouldn't have expected anything less stupid to come out of his mouth when being interviewed about a serious topic.

However, Unison calling for him to be sacked is a complete over-reaction. They should, just like anyone else with half a brain learn to ignore the rantings of an idiot - and focus on the current job in hand.

But do you actually believe he is 'inciting hatred' as Unison appear to be claiming?

Does he have to be rousing people to violence in the streets to be inciting hatred???

I suspect that the hatred must already be there - but someone in a high profile position giving voice to such views could easily lead to that hatred being manifest on the streets.

Think about where we have come with regard to race and sexuality for example, over the last 40 years. Those who harbour internal racial hatred for example could quite easily (in the past) justify vile actions on the basis of a politician's views, or the indifference (or "institutional racism") of a police force or general community views...

The Unions must be having a quiet week. Clearly there's nowt important going on at the moment they need to attend too. I take it this is the result of crushing boredom. Well I suppose it gives them something to do

Alex222 - The 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' bit is in the link posted by CaptJon from 10 mins in - reposted here.

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Taken from the finest stand-up set I've ever seen, the point of which was totally and utterly missed by so many people it's depressing.

Does he have to be rousing people to violence in the streets to be inciting hatred???

*Although perhaps they would find him guilty of not actually being funny.

As well as being bored, I'm presuming the unions must be awash with cash.

I'm guessing here, but I'd say the expensive legal advice they're presently getting on this nonsense, isn't coming from lawyers waiving their fees in solidarity with their comrade's cause?

How do any union members feel about their money being spunked away on this ridiculous and pointless PC posturing?

He wasn't always so outspoken...........

I've been unfortunate enough to have to meet him on two occasions as a visitor to the job I work on.
He's not much different in real life.

How do any union members feel about their money being spunked away on this ridiculous and pointless PC posturing?

I take it the paid for lawyers have been sat around twiddling their thumbs? What with it being so quiet at the moment?

It must be with having such a great relationship with the present government. No hostile legislation proposed or anything, that might possibly want looking over?

Interesting commentary from [url= http://gormano.blogspot.com/2011/12/jeremy-clarkson-should-be-lined-up-and.html ]Dave Gorman[/url] here. Well, there.

Personally I can't beleive people watch the One Show 😉

Unsion General secretary Dave Prentis said: "The One Show is broadcast at a time when children are watching - they could have been scared and upset by his aggressive statements. An apology is not enough - we are calling on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson immediately."

Isnt it ironic that a trade union is calling for summary dismissal!

Interesting commentary from Dave Gorman here. Well, there.

Pretty much bang on.

they could have been scared and upset by his aggressive statements

He was laughing as he said it so it was hardly aggressive.

(deleted, changed my mind & not getting into this here)

There are people in our country who have seen a *parent shot and killed in front of them.

Clarkson is an intelligent man, he knows this.

Not funny. Absolutely, not funny.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Finucane_(solicitor)

And today's over-reaction award goes to...

So following that logic - from now on nobody is allowed to comment on things that someone, somewhere may possibly, potentially, have witnessed?

Yeah... sounds great that

Personally I can't beleive people watch the One Show

I only watch it as I'm still making my mind up as to whether I would/wouldn't with Alex Jones. My opinion changes daily.

she is at least a litle above standard and on tv. what is to question. so much high fiving rights after that.

He's paid to say stupid and controversial things. That is his job. He was invited on to The One Show to do exactly that and he was goaded into saying something controversial by the presenters (in an incredibly obvious way). People then complain. The media get angry. MPs get a few words in the press. Then they forget until he does it again.

I couldn't care less for him or his comments. They are meaningless to the extreme. In fact I have just realised I am offering an opinion so stopping right there.

binners - Member
God knows how many times I've posted this link, but some people really need to read this an inwardly digest:

The offended people

Then have a cup of tea, and calm down dear

Quality, thanks for that binners - sanity

Love this bit
"I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. Combined, they're the very worst people on the planet - 20 times worse than child molesters"

alex222 - Member
she is at least a litle above standard and on tv. what is to question. so much high fiving rights after that.

Is the name a cooincidence or....? If its really you are you free next Monday night? My treat like...

😀

Wow any of you getting an ad for recording top gear on the right, they're quick these ad bots..

Wonder how many people on here actually saw The One Show, and how many people are just offended on behalf of those people that did...?

Smacks of Ross/Brand/Manuel-gate

And today's over-reaction award goes to...

Well your reactions are quicker than mine because I deleted it within a few seconds of posting it, after considering the typical quality of non-bike threads here for a few moments. I was right.

I find Clarkson's comments crass to the extreme.

Oooooooooooooooooooo get her?

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As has been pointed out repeatedly, nobody has a right not to be offended. Except possibly if you're Muslim and in possession of high explosives. You're not, are you? If you are, I'm really sorry about the cartoons. It wasn't me

Should we be offended by all people suggesting other people are killed?

How can people be offended at someone saying "Clarkson should be sacked".
Its not like anyone's suggested he should be shot.
Lighten up.

Breaking news on bbc, Clarkson has apologised, we can all relax now and go back to our normal lives

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I'm with Dave Gorman on this: http://gormano.blogspot.com/2011/12/jeremy-clarkson-should-be-lined-up-and.html

As well as being bored, I'm presuming the unions must be awash with cash.

Having seen plenty of photos of yesterday's strikes, many people all armed with expensive looking Unison branded signs, Unison branded beany hats and Unison branded tabards, it did make me wonder just how badly off these people, or the Union representing them, really are!

Personally, if I was a public sector worker, I'd save my Union membership fee, put it towards my pension, and quit complaining! Just a thought like... 😉

And as for Clarkson, what do you expect? He's not done anything differently for about the last 2 decades, if you haven't had ample warning as to his behaviour from experiences past, just how much more warning do you need? He provides minor low key humour for the ignorant masses. He is a very clever and insightful bloke, he just knows the best way for him to remain in the public eye (hence make more money) is to be controversial and offensive to the militant lefties. He's totally harmless, but not only that I'm glad he said what he did and can get away with it, because last time I checked, this was still a free country. This is not Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany or North Korea, freedom of speech is one of the very greatest virtues this country possesses. If we are advocating the punishment of someone like Clarkson for saying (a clearly rehearsed and jokingly delivered) statement on his thoughts (designed to provoke a reaction), then we really have a problem!

Clarkson, as has been pointed out before, is like a forum troll. Feed him and it makes him stronger! Ignore him and he will just slope off quietly...

I hate his comments on cyclists but when I heard this quoted on the news it made me laugh out loud as it was so completely over the top. Its so wrong where do you start? Shoot Clarkson I guess.

That said he does tend to articulate what alot of people think. Publicity just encourages some people to be awful and hateful.

[i]Should we be offended by all people suggesting other people are killed[/i]

No, because that [i]Is[/i] a comedian.

These 'ere union bigwigs are very quick in calling for people to be sacked.

Perhaps Jezza should consult his union rep 😉

Amazing! What a fuss bout nothing! He didn't even say it as if it was his opinion, he said it like a quote "for balance"! 😆

(note, I only made general comments about clarkson on the thread, not about the current outrage! 🙂 )

good old gezza..............
will any body see the funny side of him(it's joke for god sake lighten up)
these people will get more a year sat on there backside than i do working,

That Clarkson still has a job says something to me about the BBC. Standards at the BBC are the real problem.

Jeremy Clarkson is alway an idiot, never watch Top Gear cos of him and it's shite program, and his two lapdogs (Hammy and May) try so hard to be funny but failed miserable.

Hope the beeb will sack him.

will any body see the funny side

I've had a look. I can't see any.

will any body see the funny side of him

Sometimes he is funny, sometimes his show is funny, but most definitely not then.

I didn't need to look to see it 😀

Does anybody else think Clarkson and Cameron are the same person? I for one have never seen them together ,they have the same swollen ego and 😆 obviously share 'the same gift of the gab'
i can also reveal that george osborne is the new stig...some say he has 3 pensions:-)

I watched it, I lol'd I then thought they'll be all over that for tomorrows news! Utter bollox! Anybody would think he'd called Andrew sachs a ****!!!

Thought this was quite fitting. No point in being outraged. Just try and understand him (cock that he is). 🙂

Yesterday was not the first time Jeremy Clarkson has chosen to air his unique brand of politically incorrect views in public. It almost certainly won’t be the last.

Despite the anger from well-meaning types over his latest outburst, Clarkson’s fan base will undoubtedly have found it hilarious. His trademark has long been the rejection of thought and sensitivity in favour of boorishness, and his brand, if you wish to call it that, already taps into a ready market of men (and it is mostly men) who feel the same way about the world as he does.

In other words, nothing Clarkson said on Wednesday's episode of The One Show will be too far outside anything fans of the presenter aren't already familiar with.

Personally, I’ve always found Clarkson’s rants about ‘political correctness gone mad’ to resemble a grown man tipping his food off the plate because Mummy won’t give him his favourite toy. But then, I quite like political correctness; and women, the disabled and people born in different countries don’t generally upset me or send me into a rage. Nor am I bragging when I say that I don’t feel any particular need to have a phallic symbol in my driveway.

In this respect, railing against Clarkson the individual is almost certainly pointless. Clarkson and his followers represent a more universal frustration – that of the 21st century failed adult male: uncouth, bitter and festooned with the outdated trappings of machismo.

Behind all the boorishness, if you look closely, you can at times glimpse in Clarkson and his disciples something which is actually quite interesting: a deep sense of fear and insecurity in the face of the modern world.

Understanding this is worth more than any amount of 'outrage'.

One quote I read today seems to sum this up quite well .....

"It is important to remember that offence is[b] taken[/b] and not [b]given.[/b] Sometimes offence is taken when it was not intended, in which case [b][u]it is fault of the person who took offence, and the speaker is not involved at all.[/b][/u]

So what if you don't find Clarkson funny ?
So what if you don't like Top Gear?
So what if you find some things he says offensive ?

He has the right to say things that you may or may not find funny.
He has the right to say things that you may or may not find offend you.
He has the right to make TV programs that you may or may not like.

Grow up and stop moaning.

(this is aimed at nobody in particular, just at the general "moaning and wailing" that tends to happen every time someone says something controversial, and Some people seem duty bound to search it out on YouTube and then be "offended" or "outraged" by the thing they went out of their way to watch, and then complain very loudly about it)

It's possible to say that someone is offensive (along with his myriad other deficiencies) without being offended. Imagine that!

It's also possible to complain about something without being outraged.

It's possible to say "Clarkson is a cock" without one's eyes bulging with anger.

I see more outrage from his fans on this thread than from his detractors.

+100 binners. Loved Brooker's piece.

I think that Clarkson fan base will have been thoroughly over the moon at watching the left's reaction to the whole thing 😀

There's a huge portion of this great country enjoy nothing better than a little bit of shit stirring, and watching the usual suspects jump up and down in outrage at something so simple is manna from heaven.

All the left has done reinforce their own caricature as humourless, puritanical prigs, removed from the common man and unable to remove the stick from their arses.

One is minded to recall Malvolio arriving to spoil the party once again...:

"Just because thou art virtuous, shall there be no cakes and ale?"

DD is right Jezza is only trying to make sure the fanbase is aware of whatever new product hehas coming out for Christmas. He chooses to do so by using his access to the media to ridicule those less fortunate than himself Offensive ? yes in my opinion and also very very predictable

whiny/huffy Axis of Feeble

Thanks binners, just for ^ that.
It will be reappearing in an Armageddon thread near you soon.

One quote I read today seems to sum this up quite well .....

"It is important to remember that offence is taken and not given. Sometimes offence is taken when it was not intended, in which case it is fault of the person who took offence, and the speaker is not involved at all.

So what if you don't find Clarkson funny ?
So what if you don't like Top Gear?
So what if you find some things he says offensive ?

He has the right to say things that you may or may not find funny.
He has the right to say things that you may or may not find offend you.
He has the right to make TV programs that you may or may not like.

Grow up and stop moaning.

+1

I see more outrage from his fans on this thread than from his detractors.

Just to be clear, I'm not outraged, and I'm not a Clarkson Fan either.

I'm bored of the "outrage" circus that happens every so often when someone like Clarkson does exactly what they get paid to do, and says something controversial.

He didn't say anything controversial, he said something really stupid and tasteless, and not at all funny. I doubt that's his job description...

All the left has done reinforce their own caricature as humourless, puritanical prigs

Oh don't be so frigging stupid!

Ch4 now, the children are being thought of, thankfully.