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Bernard Manning was funny?
Stewart Lee is painful just awful.
The Stewart Lee 'Top Gear Defense' hits the nail squarely on the head imo, one of our best comedians by far.
You need to have half a brain and an attention span to find Stewart Lee funny Flow.
I'd say the opposite. Regardless of the subject matter, the comedy isn't clever.
one of our best comedians by far.
Michael Macintyre makes him look amateur.
[i]his opinions are designed to catch out two types of idiots. Idiots who take him seriously and agree with him and idiots who take him seriously and are outraged.[/i]
It's designed to make the Top Gear sheep laugh and go "ooh, isn't he outwageous (but he's right really eh?)".
his opinions are designed to catch out two types of idiots. Idiots who take him seriously and agree with him and idiots who take him seriously and are outraged.
Couldn't agree more!
flow - Member"one of our best comedians by far."
Michael Macintyre makes him look amateur.
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I'm a bit torn on the whole thing.
Steward Lee is an interesting one. Halfway through that youtube clip I was thinking 'what a hateful little man', then I watched it all and it did make sense. I saw his stand up gig advertised last night and thought I'd rather set myself on fire than go to it but having watched that I've changed my opinion slightly. I think he's less of a comedian, more of a commentator - he's certainly quite switched on.
Hate it when people talk about peoples kids or wishing ill on folk though, both Lee and Clarkson make me feel slightly appalled that someone could feel like that, in jest or otherwise. I don't have kids but it still affects me, god knows what it must be like if you do have them.
Clarkson is a dinosaur but some of what he says does make sense. I've started reading (ages ago, lost interest) one of his books and he has some fairly valid points. The shame of it is that he flowers up these valid points with offensive 'man comments' about lefties, lesbians and liberals. But then I don't suppose he'd be as popular if he didn't make outlandish comments. Or sell as many DVD's..
As for the 'he should be sacked' comments - really? He clearly appeals to a number of people or he wouldn't be as popular as he is. This witch hunt that starts every time someone says something unpopular (fueled by the tabloids when there's no real news on) is pathetic. Told off - yes, asked to wind his neck in - yes, but sacked?
So a post that completely contradicts itself, I've done well...
I think Clarkson is a d!ck but what he said was a bad taste joke, nothing more, nothing less. He has a democratic right to freedom of speech just as the strikers had a democratic right to strike. And remember, a lot of the people who are outraged at what he said, were the same people who were talking about celebrating the death of Thatcher.
During the programme Mr Clarkson also made a jokey remark about people who threw themselves in front of trains.
A very talented man with whom I spent eight years of my professional life eventually threw himself under a train, to escape the voices.
The idea that Jeremy Clarkson is funny is the preserve of people who can't think properly. In my opinion.
He should be sacked and then prosecuted.
He should be sacked and then prosecuted.
Under what legislation would you be prosecuting?
one of our best comedians by far.Michael Macintyre makes him look amateur.
Your right he's on the telly all the time so he must be brilliant. In fact I think he should have his own panel show
The idea that Jeremy Clarkson is funny is the preserve of people who can't think properly. In my opinion
Problem is, for every person who knows someone who has been in a bad enough state to end their life in front of a train, there's another 500 who have been late getting home because of said act and feel cheated out of an evening with their kids, partner, whatever. Its these people that Clarkson appeals to, the unthinking majority who are only concerned with how it affects them.
He's also said that middle lane hoggers should be shot dead by marksmen on motorway bridges. No one got this upset then as most of us agreed
He could also say it about fat people taking up room on planes, giving up seats for pregnant women, old people and so on. He picks easy targets that will gather the most amount of favour from the majority. Its lazy 'humour', just like Gervais.
He's also said that middle lane hoggers should be shot dead by marksmen on motorway bridges. No one got this upset then as most of us agreed
See I take umbrage with this sort of stupid statement. Everyone knows the resulting crashes would only add to the problem
Ah yes I forget he was being serious! 🙄
CaptainFlashheart
Under what legislation would you be prosecuting?
being in a public place without a brain act 1921?
Prevention of tossers act 1974?
[i] Its these people that Clarkson appeals to, the unthinking majority who are only concerned with how it affects them.[/i]
So whaat are you doing reading one of his effin books??
Its all getting a bit ridiculous
Unison spokes person on the radio just now, they're taking legal advice on 'incitment of hatred', they compared what he said to as similar to how Gaddafi spoke about protesters 😕
Quite an amusing thread this one 😉
[i]Its all getting a bit ridiculous[/i]
The world?
So whaat are you doing reading one of his effin books??
Just because I read it, doesn't mean I agree with it. I hate the Daily Mail more than anything else in the world, but I sometimes read it just to remind myself why I hate it so much.
Clarkson's lucky he's not brown with a beard,
Or a teenager with a facebook account and a liking for free riot trainers.
LOL! @ Clarkson who incidently is also funny-ish celebrity maggot.
[b]Only fools would take those celebrity maggots seriously and I bet many would like to be celebrity maggots themselves.[/b]
So when the the Union starts to condemn others for making fun of them I think they have transformed themselves into celebrity magggots ... "Look at me! Look at me! I think Clarkson is wrong! We are the Union we are right! Look at me! Look at me! Here is our demand!"
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I don't know how anyone can get wound up by him - pretty much the same as Frankie Boyle or that other unfunny comedian Jimmy Whateverhisnameis - he is saying these things for comic effect. Whether or not we find him funny is irrelevant - he is clearly not 'inciting hatred' is he?
Does anyone think for a minute that anyone would act on his suggestions of shooting people, killing horses, boiling mermaids or whatever? Has anyone ever acted on his suggestions?
He is just a crap comedian.
dont think clarkson is funny but do find him amusingly watchable. maybe he should have a new show called
clarkson tells it like it is
90% of us would watch
I'm one of the 10%
No loss
Does anyone think for a minute that anyone would act on his suggestions of shooting people, killing horses, boiling mermaids or whatever? Has anyone ever acted on his suggestions?
Well, who knows? However, I would think it likely that somewhere among the Top Gear demographic there will be a number who think it's OK to despise and resent cyclists because Clarkson said something "funny" about them, and who go on to treat cyclists on the road a bit less considerately because of it.
im in the 10% too
he is just saying outrageous things because his publicists had warned him before going on camera that his projected dvd sales were looking weak this xmas.
does a loud mouthed celeb saying this kind of unpleasant stuff on primetine bbc1 give wasted mums on trams fuel for their own hatred filled rants
However, I would think it likely that somewhere among the Top Gear demographic there will be a number who think it's OK to despise and resent cyclists because Clarkson said something "funny" about them, and who go on to treat cyclists on the road a bit less considerately because of it.
What a load of BS
God knows how many times I've posted this link, but some people really need to read this an inwardly digest:
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/17/comment.charliebrooker ]The offended people[/url]
Then have a cup of tea, and calm down dear 😀
Does anyone think for a minute that anyone would act on his suggestions of shooting people, killing horses, boiling mermaids or whatever? Has anyone ever acted on his suggestions?
No, but he needs to speak out against people who do, because they claim to represent people like him
What a load of BS
Why's that flow? You certainly seem to get your panties in a bunch quite easily.
has anyone seen that stewart lee sketch? if you know what i'm talking about post it please.
alex22
"He's not even a real hamster"
its on an earlier page
To anyone who says Clarkson isn't funny.....
I am pi55ing myself laughing at all this thread, and that's as a direct result of Clarkson.
Does that count ???
Just been on the news about it on the radio. Some woman comparing him to Gadaffi and saying they were considering legal action; bookies running bets on whether he'll be sacked by Christmas; David Cameron saying "he was being silly" (which is about the first sensible thing he's ever said).
Bloody ridiculous. JC's 'image' is just a character, a non-PC parody of himself, and his routine is no different to a standup comedian. Whether you think he's funny or not is a matter of debate, but anyone who thinks he was [i]seriously [/i]advocating the mass murder of protesters should have a good long look at themselves.
However, I would think it likely that somewhere among the Top Gear demographic there will be a number who think it's OK to despise and resent cyclists because Clarkson said something "funny" about them, and who go on to treat cyclists on the road a bit less considerately because of it.
What a load of BS
Johnners is right. Constant low-level reinforcement can make things acceptable or `effectively true'- you've only got to look at how road tax just won't die for a good example.
Views like cyclists being an annoying impediment to the true owners of the road are things that `everybody knows' precisely because they're regularly trotted out or implied by the media and people like Clarkson.
sorry i'm at work. the part i'm thinking of is Jeremy clarkson calling gordon brown a blind idiot.....stewart lee says 'i wish jeremy claksons children blindness.....'
He (Clarkson) must be rubbing his hands in glee now! bit on the BBC lunchtime news akin to some huge political turmoil!
Jeeeeeze!
I work in the public sector and I also hate Clarkson but I have to admit those comments made me smile a bit
I heard some fairly bigoted opinions being expressed yesterday about those on strike.
Opinions that those expresing them would be quite happy to accept, come straight from the Daily Mail.
Now, I am quite happy that many people disagree with the strike (or agree with it for that matter) - but find it all rather depressing when those opinions are willfuly ignorant of the real issues or facts that are under consideration.
Sadly, Clarkson plays to a considerable body of ignorant "middle England". Unfortunately, comments like these, on prime time TV, just serve to validate the opinions that these people hold.
So - whilst he may not be actually inciting some lunatic to go out and shoot strikers, he almost certainly will be reinforcing outdated social stereotypes within a social grouping that could do with a dose of more up to date thinking...
FWIW, I think the comments a year or two ago about lorry drivers killing prostitues was far more heinous, especially given the timing... but you do have to give a certain "audience leeway" for comments made on TG
I reckon his mate CallMeDave bet him he wouldn't say it.