Cheers Fred,
It was the end of a bad day, and Snigletrack pushed me over the edge. I'm all for a bit of banter, but the trolling by a couple on here recently (especially about a person with cancer) got me down!
Snigletrack, what a tosser! maybe she has made her money out of the media and been a loud mouth, but then she has only done what 90% of people would do and that is exploit a situation she has found herself in and made some money...would you not do the same? There is no difference between the two of you, she has offended people through her misguided ignorance, you're just ignorant.
I would like to think that maybe you are young, have no children and have yet to experience the dreadful demise of a friend or loved one through cancer.
Go away and think about what you have said, come back when you have someting to constructive to say.
End of rant
Wow, what a storm in a teacup! Have I been banned? Just got back from a couple of days riding in the Lakes and saw this.
I'm at a loss as to why anyone would have taken offence to me asking the original question! It's a perfectly valid subject for debate and I thought I made it quite clear why I was asking the question - namely that the involvment of serial self-publicisers Clifford and Goody made me a little suspicious. Judging by some of the other posts on here, I'm not the only one.
For what it's worth, I suspect there's a bit of a witch hunt going on here, due to the fact that I have a history of making posts that polarise opinion and stimulate quite emotive responses from those who disagree. At the end of the day, this is a 'discussion forum', and if people don't have the requisite brains to enter into a debate like this without hurling expletives at me, they should walk away and discuss farting, erections or sodomy with the other low IQers.
Stimulating debate IS NOT trolling. Hiding behind an untraceable online persona and insulting people or ganging up in the way some have on here is, however, completely unacceptable. SC-XC obviously still has an axe to grind, probably from being made to look a fool in a previous debate. Might I suggest that rather than using this forum to settle old scores, he grows up a bit and stops polluting the forum and spoiling other debates.
BigButSlimmerBloke's comments certainly made me smile. Thank you for your concern about my business. You'll be pleased to know that my website no longer sports a holding page with a picture of an 'anonymous building'. We've outgrown that 'anonymous building' and in November of last year, invested in new premises which are being renovated as we speak.
Finally, I would like to offer a Jeremy Clarkson-esque full and unreserved apology to all those who were offended by my post. I'm deeply sorry that you've got that fence you're sitting on rammed so far up your posteriors that your every waking minute is made misery by your throbbing heamorroids.
TTFN
Snigle
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Photocopying business a bit slow, mate?
No idea PaddedBrain. I'm a graphic designer. Don't even own a photocopier.
How's the charity design work going? Have you started doing anything that pays yet?
Sadly, I'm not as clever as you, and have been forced into prostitution, in order to feed my crack habit...
Wish I was as clever as you, with your shiny new premises...
Never mind Rudeboy, maybe [s]one day[/s] in the next life.
Snigle
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Late in the day but thought I get my penny's worth in...
The whole story seems to be one of contridictions to me: on the one hand this is somebody who's income has previously been based very much on publicity and 'celebrity' and, on the other, the current tragic reasons for that publicity being generated.
On the one hand I don't believe the public like being reminded of their own mortality but at the same time people will be encouraged to face this and seek help if they have medical concerns.
Again, on the one hand, I wish Jade and her family well and understand that the additional publicity can provide financial security for her children but, at the same time, I have no interest in reading about her or other so called celebrities on the front of all the red tops and magazines and I very much dislike the 'celebrity' bandwagon which is generated from this media.
Yeah, never mind.
As I said earlier, just because a sh1tty view is posted in the form of a question, doesn't suddenly turn it into a "valid debate"...you're just arguing over semantics to be honest.
I'm deeply sorry that you've got that fence you're sitting on rammed so far up your posteriors that your every waking minute is made misery by your throbbing heamorroids.
Well, I think that judging by the number of posts, most were far from sitting on the fence weren't they?
Oh, I do hope you employ a separate copywriter for your evidently successful graphic design business. Or maybe, just stick to the photocopying.
How long before Padded/dibnah/fred/rudeboy, and AdamG/Snigletrack argue themselves into a permanent banning, do we think?
[i]Stimulating debate IS NOT trolling.[/i]
"Debate", my arrse. Only a prize twonk such as yourself could think that.
if people don't have the requisite brains to enter into a debate like this without hurling expletives at me, they should walk away and discuss farting, erections or sodomy with the other low IQers.
Well you are certainly consistent AdamG - no one can argue with that.
On all your threads you clearly feel this irresistible compulsion to inform everyone just how clever you are.
I find this desperate need to remind everyone of your superior intelligence on the one hand, highly amusing, but on the other hand tragically sad.
Is you cock really [i]that[/i] tiny ? Or is it a case of your mother constantly telling you that you were useless when you were a child - did you have a cleverer younger brother maybe ? Come on, share with everyone just why you feel so bad about yourself, and why your own low self worth forces you to act like a complete plonker.
Sorry but skim read most of the dross so excuse me if I missed something.
Jade Goody has her life good or bad as fodder for the tabloids.Nothing new there but the thing that makes my skin crawl is that snake Max Clifford squeezing every last bit out of her miserable existence to line his own pockets.
To be fair he did only question the honesty and integrity of the media and "celebrities", it wouldn't be the first time a stunt had been pulled. He just says everything very bluntly/harshly.
Well, I think that judging by the number of posts, most were far from sitting on the fence weren't they?
If someone thinks it's unacceptable to question something simply because the subject is an emotive one, then in my view, they are fence sitters.
They'd rather stay on the fence than debate the issue.
A handful of posters have expressed their thoughts one way or another - which is what I asked people to do - but the majority seem to have taken exception to the very fact that I've spoken about a subject that they feel is taboo. One in three of us will die of cancer, so I think it's far from taboo. However, as I've said, I think it's utterly crass that it's being milked for PR equity.
Snigle
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Jeez. The woman is dying - have you no sense of decency or shame?
I suppose that depends how you define 'decency and shame' doesn't it andy. Personally, I'm perfectly comfortable speaking frankly and honestly about my suspicions regarding - in particular - Max Clifford, whereas I wouldn't be comfortable hawking pictures of myself round the gossip mags and red-top tabloids after a course of chemotherapy.
But hey, we're all a bit different, aren't we.
Snigle
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I've had quite enough of this back and forth bullshit.
Snigeltrack, you know full well you are provoking people with your comments. And you reporting posts isn't helping your cause.
Things that provoke can and should be discussed here, but cancer is a very emotional and sensitive subject for people. I'd be very surprised if there was anyone here who hadn't had their lives affected by cancer in some way; be that through a friend, relative, or themselves. Therefore you have to handle it in a sensitive way. Don't start complaining when people react badly to this. Then state that you're so ****ing intelligent that you're above piss and fart jokes. If you were so balanced that you can discuss this openly then you'd be able to do it by not provoking people to this extent. It's called being sensitive.
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I suppose that depends how you define 'decency and shame' doesn't it andy. Personally, I'm perfectly comfortable speaking frankly and honestly about my suspicions regarding - in particular - Max Clifford, whereas I wouldn't be comfortable hawking pictures of myself round the gossip mags and red-top tabloids after a course of chemotherapy.
But hey, we're all a bit different, aren't we.
Yep. Thank God we are.
Your 'suspicions' are ignorant, callous, crap. When someone develops secondary cancer like this it's simply a matter of time - barring a miracle. Using it as an opportunity to try to prove how clever and world-wise you are is simply disgusting.
Snigletrack; What's with ending each post with your name when it's at the top of the post?
Oh and using a smiley everytime, is that to ensure your sunny state of mind is passed across the ether?
She makes money being famous, so what. It doesn't affect my life adversely. The only time I would have due cause to be riled was if it was costing me something. Mr Clifford, though a weasel of the first order, is fulfilling his professional brief as instructed by his client. It has the desired effect as Ice Queen points out above and as such the campaign can be counted a success.
I hope the poor girl has an easy an exit as possible she is going to miss a lot.
Snigletrack is now banned indefinitely (As before the reasons are not purely to do with this thread but the decision to ban him is a culmination of many posts and incidents. This thread was the final straw). He can't view these posts now so lets leave it at that.