[Closed] Jade Goody

They had Max Clifford on the Andrew Mar show earlier, very interesting to hear what he had to say, especially the bit about it being the same hospital and physicians as treated his wife when he lost her to cancer 6 years ago...

Very sad news and a tragic case although I do now feel it will enable her family and close friends to properly start the long grieving proceses hopefully with some respectful privacy.

Whilst I'm sure it a terrible private tragedy its hardly national news.
Where was the national out-pouring of grief when my Aunt died last year in much pain after a very aggressive type of Cancer took hold around her spine?

long grieving proceses hopefully with some respectful privacy.

yeah to right she has lived out all of this in front of the camera, hope her kids get the privacy she didn't.

tails - I don't think she shunned the attention ever. If she'd wanted privacy surely she wouldn't have made numerous TV programmes, appeared in magazines etc. The story of her wedding etc fair enough as she was trying to get the most for her kids, but the rest is hardly the actions of a woman crying out for her privacy.

I hope the choice she made to make the whole thing public helps to reduce deaths from Cervical cancer in women. If she saves only a few women from this then she's done well.

I hope her boys are ok and that they get the support they need.

the world is full of idiots
now there is one less

if her disease and passing helps others with cancer then that is a great thing, otherwise...

This is an absolute tragedy, regardless of what you think of her, 27 with 2 kids, my mum died of the same thing aged 36 so I can only see the sadness of the situation...

suspenders - Member
the world is full of idiots
now there is one less

Yeah but you're still here.

I know nothing about Goody, but I truly hope that death came about through a nice massive overdose of morphine.

Regardless of your thoughts on Jade Goody this is a very sad end

I know nothing about Goody

you are in a privileged position
I wish I had the tenacity to live my life with my head so far up my arse

Goody was played by the media who made far more out of her than she did of them. With the help of an agent, she managed to get a fairer share of the money they made from her.

I think it's the gutter press that have a lot to answer for here. Not to mention all the people who bought the papers. They made a freak show out of a vulnerable person.

Good luck to her sons and the people that care for them, but not that violent thug Jack Tweedy, he needs a massive kick up the backside! Let's hope that he doesn't blow all the money she made for her sons. I'm sure the gutter press will be on his case as soon as he is released from prison.

If people didn't buy these trashy newspapers, none of this would have happened. Shame on those who funded this nonsense!

Oh dear, feel sorry for her kids, but no great loss for me. Dont really feel anything when a celebrity dies its not like you know them.

Dont think we have heard the last from her as no doubt Max Clifford has some more money making idea's up his sleeve. Expect another biography and the Jade Goody Memorial appearing somewhere. Must admit when she was alive I always saw her as a media whore and I dont think my opinion will be changed because she is dead.

you are in a privileged position

Oh I don't know about that. It's quite simply really - I just don't watch BB and I don't buy newspapers which have articles on pages 1,4,5,&6 on trivial stuff which doesn't interest me.

Perhaps you could try that too ?

[i]Whilst I'm sure it a terrible private tragedy its hardly national news[/i]

I agree as the death of one woman, but the media coverage has very openly been aimed at increasing awareness of cervical cancer. Which it has, so well done to them.

I think it was all a lot of drama and an insult to those who suffer from this terrible illness without the glamour and without the support they deserve.

I don't think there was anything glamourous about the whole sorry saga. Or anything worthy of some of the venom that's poured in her direction - if I had months to live and the opportunity to make sure my kids were cared for by selling some pics I know I'd do the same and hang those who don't like it. If anyone's due some vitriol it's the hypocrisy of the press and their treatment of her from the moment she appeared on BB.

But, AFAIK there are far more important things to get upset and angry about - I think it's sad for her children and I'm sure the coverage will be blanket but it's not difficult to not read a paper / watch a tv program. I'm off into the garden to enjoy the sunshine...

To quote the Reverand Jonathan Blake who married Jade and Jack. "Jade has become for us, so many different things, a saint from Upshire and a princess from Bermondsey, an exemplar of biblical proportions." Words fail me!

BBC News

Reality TV star Jade Goody dies aged 27 after a high-profile battle with cancer, as the prime minister leads the tributes.

So if you're a soldier fighting for your country and die in the name of it you get nothing, but if you're an ignorant racist who craves publicity and notoriety you get Gordon Brown paying tribute to your wonderful life?!?

if you're a soldier fighting for your country and die in the name of it you get nothing

Why do you say that ?

I mean, it's not even true is it ?

Only a few days ago Gordon Brown said, quote :

[i] “I’m sure the whole House will join me in expressing our deepest condolences to the family and friends of those killed on operations in Afghanistan: Cpl Dean John, Cpl Graeme Swift and L/Cpl Chris Harkett.

“They and all those who have lost their lives in conflict deserve our profound gratitude for their service, not just to our country but also to the peace of the world. Their courage will never be forgotten.”[/i]

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Still, let's not let 'truth' get in the way of a good rant, eh ?

Mothers day, eh? I bet Cliffod finished her off with a house brick this morning, 'Think of the publicity, Jade!'

I feel very sorry for her Children and to lose anyone to Cancer at any age is horrible.

But.

Jade became 'famous' for being on a reality TV show. She then lived her life in front of the media and the public being a celebrity for nothing more than being on TV. While a side effect of her Cancer and living with it the way she did may be to make young women more aware of the risks I fail to see what jade did to justify her being upheld as an example to all.

Just my tuppence worth, I'm sure there are those that adored her but it's not like she went off and worked with the homeless, or the ill, or... well, I could list many causes that could have been helped by her status that weren't.

Like I said, sad for the Children and her Family. Let's just move on from it being about Jade and focus more on ALL cancers, shall we?

I mean, it's not even true is it ?

Fair point, but Gordon Brown commenting on her devalues anything that has and can ever be said about a soldier.

My money is on her being mentioned in the Queen's Honours, posthumous MBE or something.

FWIW - MrsMM works at an NHS hospital - they have had a significant increase in cytology (spelling...?) screening, especially in a 'younger than usual' age group, they cal it it the Jade Goody effect so, t'would appear that one part of Ms Goodys media plan has succeeded, no bad thing methinks.

it's not like she went off and worked with the homeless, or the ill, or... well, I could list many causes that could have been helped by her status that weren't.

I don't get why she has to be compared with saints. Is this how you think everyone should live their life? A quick google suggests she did some stuff for charity.

Gordon Brown commenting on her devalues anything that has and can ever be said about a soldier

Cripes. Can you explain that?

Jade Goody dead whilst Noel Edmonds still lives! Is there no justice?

RIP

Cynic - I'm not comparing her to any Saints but there are people who do fantastic amounts of work for the good of others who pass ith much less fanfare, wailing and hand wringing than Jade did.

Nobody is perfect, especially me, it just seems like there's an awful lot of misplaced importance as far as Jade Goody goes that I've never seen justified.

Just my opinion of course, as I said earlier there are countless thousands who'll mourn her. I'll save my feeling sorry for her kids.

[i]Regardless of your thoughts on Jade Goody this is a very sad end [/i]

+1

27 is no age to die. Even if you don't have a great grasp of geography

t'would appear that one part of Ms Goodys media plan has succeeded, no bad thing methinks.

Hardly a plan! A racist bully that the public can't stand is diagnosed with cancer, what better way to try and foster sympathy than make out she's trying to 'save others before it's too late'.

All she ever bothered about were money and publicity.

...........but it's not like she went off and worked with the homeless, or the ill, or... well, I could list many causes........

IWH, I won't ask you to list all the good causes which you do voluntary work for - I'm sure that it is indeed very impressive. However, that criticism could be levelled at most people - very few people actually do much in the way of charity work.

In fact sneering at those who attempt to improve the lives of others has become something of a modern phenomenon, "charity begins at home, all these good-doers, self-publicising celebraties on Red-nose day", etc, etc.

And no, it's not just money and celebrity backing which charities need. It's also people who are prepared to put in the time and commitment. Which is something that I'm sure you must know - with all the hard work which you undoubtedly put into your charity work.

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AlasdairMc, I'm sorry that you feel Gordon Brown's comments have 'devalued' any tributes which he has paid concerning members of our armed forces.

Perhaps he should have refused to comment - I'm sure that he wouldn't have been castigated for it with a front-page Sun headline "Cold Hearted Gordon Refuses To Pay Tribute To Brave Jade", followed by an article claiming that the Prime Minister was out of touch with ordinary people.

BTW, the leader of the Conservative Party David Cameron, paid tribute to Jade Goody's "brave fight", is he now no longer fit to comment on the deaths of British soldiers ?

is it true ol goodey didnt go for her smear tests hence.......

I couldn't stand the mouthy, ignorant, racist cow - but I wouldn't wish cancer on [u]anybody.[/u]
I've seen enough of it in my own family. 😥

She was somebody's mum, somebody's child.

And some good has come out of her 'celebity' status- increased numbers of women going for smear tests.

This will undoubtedly lead to lives saved.

To those pouring scorn on her; has your life touched so many people, and left a positive legacy?

All she ever bothered about were money and publicity.

A celebrity with little to offer - money and publicity are one of the same. Surely you can see that? It's not like she had brains, acting talent, great vocal range or modelling looks - how else was she going to earn a living?

Dumb hairdresser gets media break, exploits it fully via even dumber public then dies tragically young.

No more to be said frankly!

G, succinct.

I think I must have run into the Jade Goody Memorial walk this morning. Five abreast five deep no idea of what was coming towards them, slowly and respectfully I might add, and no idea what a beautiful day it was for their half a mile from the car half a mile back excursion.

Think this sums it all up nicely....

[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/5031343/Jade-Goody.html ]Obituary in The Telegraph[/url]

Grizzly - I'm not saying that everybody has to live their lives helping and serving others, I'm not claiming to be an overwhelming force for good or a massive charity benefactor - I was merely saying that the media have done their best to paint her as some kind of Saint who's led an 'amazing life' and something 'inspirational'. She wasn't.

It's a tragic thing to happen to a Family. Any Family. I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone but I didn't care for her in life and I'm not about to start wittering on about her now she's gone.

...the media have done their best to paint her as some kind of Saint who's led an 'amazing life' and something 'inspirational'. She wasn't.

I see, you've got a problem with media - not her. Fair enough 8)

Mothers day, eh? I bet Cliffod finished her off with a house brick this morning, 'Think of the publicity, Jade!'

I Lol'd.
I'm going to hell.

Nah, if Clifford was going to finish her off, he'd have done it earlier so she could have made it into the first edition of the Sunday papers.

More likely that little scrote she'd married who thought the marriage was starting to drag on a bit.

she was kind and a laugh everytime i met her.
sleep well jade.xx

If only the media had given as much time over to Jane Tomlinson. Dying of cancer, she rode tens of thousands of miles, and raised hundreds of thousands of pounds for charity. She actually made a difference to people's lives, in a selfless, modest way, while slowly and painfully dying.

Jade on the other hand has briefly raised awareness about cervical cancer, and tried to grab as much cash as she can for herself, all the while being manipulated by the parasite that is Max Clifford. I think that Telegraph obituary sums it up quite nicely really...

[i]If only the media had given as much time over to Jane Tomlinson.[/i]

They did. It was on the news when she was cycling across America, in the papers etc. Jade resonates more as she was known in the press before her illness.

[i]sleep well jade[/i]
she's dead, not asleep.

Hora, engage brain before typing. The media did not give [i]as much[/i] time to Jane as they gave (and are continuing to give) to Jade. I didn't see her on the news every day, in every gossip mag, and on the front of every newspaper.

Jade resonates more because she had been such a figure of hatred and loathing in the press before they realised they could make money off her.

Agree with WTF, the Telegraph obituary does sum it up well.

[i]has your life touched so many people, and left a positive legacy? [/i]

Sorry but who are we talking about here, is it Mother Theresa or Jade Goody?

Loads of people die every day, its crap for their families, however we don't have a national outpouring of grief about it.

Can we change Mothers Day to Jade Goody Day, just so we all remember how she touched our lives?

[i]she was kind and a laugh everytime i met her[/i] So the fact that she was a racist bully doesn't matter then.

She loved the attention, she would have done all the media stuff for free if they weren't paying.

Far from being harmful, I'm sure the media circus made her last days more bearable. Being the focus of so much concern and attention must have been some comfort.

If you don't like it then don't blame her, don't blame, Max Clifford and don't blame the media - blame the ordinary people (probably your friends and family) who read OK magazine and watch Living TV. That's who paid Jade's wages.

STW sinks to a new low. Some of you losers on here make my ****ing skin crawl.

That's it exactly chakaping. I can't understand why people were so eager to watch someone die.

Lady Di gave us this -

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What will Jade goody leave for us, apart from 2 disfunctional children who will probably end up like messed up n'that?

Davy, I dont know- its my memory versus your recollection. I dont really want to discuss this though as I can not speak in anyones name. Respect for the dead please. She hardly killed anyone did she? We all know the English press are there to chase sales.

STW sinks to a new low. Some of you losers on here make my **** skin crawl.

[i] scruff - Member

Lady Di gave us this -[/i]

I know they arent anything special to look at but I'd love to stand astride in the middle and seagull-them 🙄

No matter her previous actions, for someone to die young and leave behind a family is tragic.

And like her or not, she was a media phenononom so, unfortunately for those of us that did not care for her much in life, there is a story that the press want to tell.

Ah I was thinking of posting a similar response to smee as your aracer but then I thought it would be best not to give him the attention. He'll only start crying again.

It's not that I wish her any ill. Or that I want to compare the value of her life with the value of anyone else's life, or minimise her suffering or anything else.

It's simply that this is not in any sense "news" or "information", it is a form of entertainment, and I don't want to get involved in it.

Oh, so I see it's acceptable to mention this again now?? Bannishment here I come again....

Despite Max Clifford's best efforts, her life and her death meant nothing to me. I was not compelled to buy a single one of the dozens of magazines or newspapers which had her face and "her agony" emblazoned on the front. I'll not mourne her passing. I'll be glad if I never see another picture of her or hear her name again. I'm not going to succumb to some tabloid driven emotional conformism.

She is dead becuase she was so stupid she ignored medical advice. Not as part of some grand scheme to promote cancer awarness.

She has raised cancer awarness out of a desire to make money. Not as part of some grand scheme to promote cancer awarness.

If any women are saved thanks to her "actions" it will be thanks to her stupidity and greed.

Her death was as public and distastful as her life. Few, if any other cancer sufferers will have the opportunity to exploit their own suffering and death in the way that Jade did.

Unlike Jade, most who are suffering from terminal cancer haven't already had successful careers in the media, book and perfume deals, excercise dvds and hundreds of tv appearances to support their loved ones, yet they die without fanfare or note, and they have the good taste and decency not to whore out their own suffering for further financial gain. She should be villified, not praised for her lack of taste, decency and intelligence. Society really has sunk to a new low when things like this are rammed down our throats unchallenged.

She is dead becuase she was so stupid she ignored medical advice.

didn't she ignore results from a previous smear test which said she had pre-cancerous cells?

STW sinks to a new low. Some of you losers on here make my **** skin crawl.

Now maybe it's Monday morning and I'm still a bit grumpy but..

This kind of comment annoys me. Smee.. you ARE STW. you've been a member of this particular incarnation of STW since it was born on the 24th December 2008. You are oneof the founding members! STW hasn't sunk to anything. Opinions by some of your fellow members have annoyed you.

Oh, and to everyone... Personal insults will get you a 48 hour suspension. Avoiding the swear filter will do too. It's a hot topic and it's got the attention of the mods so if you can't control your posts to a reasonable level, expect to be given some time off.

That's it exactly chakaping. I can't understand why people were so eager to watch someone die.

I'm glad you think I'm right, but I was sort of arguing with your and others' previous posts by trying to make the point that the public interest in Jade is what led to all the media attention - not vice versa.

It doesn't matter whether people "like" it or not, it's what the public wants.

I know some members on here favour censoring the press so that they don't have to read about people like Jade. Personally I think they'd be better off shouting outside WH Smith than moaning here.

Some people may not like her or what she did, but some of the comments above are a little bit below the belt when you consider that she was 27.

I just hope that this might herald some kind of cultural renaissanse, whereby we realise just how ghoulish the culture of celebrity really is. In this, the ultimate case, following the death of someone, pictorially, serialised, in real time. I can't believe how prophetic Charlie Brooker's Dead Set was.

I must have missed those, or simply let them wash over me (maybe something you should try, Smee). Can't be bothered reading the whole thing again to try and guess which ones you mean. Surely you expected some negative comments in a thread on here? Your suggestion that it's the worst STW has ever got is ridiculously hyperbolic when you consider some of the other things which have been posted on here.

Her death was as public and distastful as her life. Few, if any other cancer sufferers will have the opportunity to exploit their own suffering and death in the way that Jade did.

She was a known celeb. People are interested in people they've heard about ie celebs. Is that Jade's fault?

She died, some people care about it. Do you have to slag off the people that do?

chakaping can't see where your post argues with mine. I didn't blame Goody for the media attention.

[i]comments above are a little bit below the belt when you consider that she was 27[/i] Would they have been acceptable if she was 47?

No, you're right Gary, not really arguing, just trying not to get myself all het up over it.

It doesn't matter whether she was worthy of all that attention or not. People wanted to know about her.

I've not seen the media making her out to be a saint or anything anyway, I think that goes on in the heads of people who don't actually read the tabloids anyway.

Like Daily Mail readers complaining about BBC shows they didn't see - it's not meant for you, ignore it.

Like Daily Mail readers complaining about BBC shows they didn't see - it's not meant for you, ignore it.

The Daily Mail ran a front page news story at the weekend with a warning on IVF treatment (defects etc). I'd like to see more info on that out there to get everyones attention. Why did only the Daily Mail run this?!

She was a dim bird, with not much in the way of looks, but she managed to make a fortune for herself. I suspect many smarter, better looking more deserving people were envious of her "undeserved" success. Hence the vitriolic comments.

Cancer is not a nice way to go. Dimness or unpleasant opinions are not a capital offence (yet), so my sympathy to her family.

Radio one is making me sick- I'm finding it really really distasteful and hard to ignore. The reference that Jade is just like Lady Diana, both were outsiders to the establishment. What the ****?

And no offence but if Jades name is used to hijack the good work that already happens- someone I 'know' has always received timely and regular requests for smear tests. I can also go further into this but it is abit personal to be honest. Lets just say that I've experienced no incompetence but efficiency in reminders, diagnosis and preventative treatment when it was needed all promptly actioned. Well her name is being used to highlight others good work when she ignored the mechanism.

The only issue I have at all is that it's pretty hard to ignore at the moment.

exactly

the whole shitstorm this has kicked up is ridiculous and it is increasingly hard to ignore - despite best efforts, avoiding the red-tops isn't enough it's everywhere - on the TV, at work, on cycling forums (!)

nobody wants to speak badly of those who are in grief, suffering or dead as we all know someone who's been in this position and we've all felt their pain - but also nobody wants to have emotions forced on them for people they dont' know; it's a defense mechanism to say 'I couldn't give a **** about it'

as trailmonkey says hopefully, maybe this whole debacle will make us (the people, the media, celebrities, agents, advertisers) question the morality of this kind of 'event'

somehow I think any wholesale cultural change will ultimately be steered by the media and not by the people, which is a bit sad really 😥

[i]maybe this whole debacle will make us (the people, the media, celebrities, agents, advertisers) question the morality of this kind of 'event'[/i] Yeh and the recession will see an end to greed and the 'need it now' culture.

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Could we remove this thread and make the name a swear word so it never appears?