[Closed] It's 1977 All Over Again

...and I just shat myself.

im still obsessed with brests(though not my mums :?)

the 1st star wars film has just come out at the cinema too
(though the 1st starwars film now has jarjar binks and is in 3d)

Great were in for a hot summer with record tempetures but I'll miss most of that because I'll be in the RVI with a fractured skull. It'll mean missing months of school, migrains regular until my early 30s and being a bit dyslexic.

Can't wait.

Cool; I only saw the last 5 months of 1977 the first time around.

[i] The Sex Pistols have signed a new record deal[/i]

er, Lydon's touring with PiL and Sid's dead... (I can't be bothered to look it up) have they really?

And in a few years we'll be at war with Argentina again.

I'm going to be born in three years! \o/

i wasn't born, i only mention this to make debz feel old x

The first part is only too obvious Philip. 8)

its philip with one 'l' dezzybee! make that mistake one more time and i'll take you off my invite list for my party

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er, Lydon's touring with PiL and Sid's dead... (I can't be bothered to look it up) have they really?

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17170897 ]Apparently they have...[/url]

i wasn't born, i only mention this to make debz feel old

I wasn't born either. I have just sh...

So, come the summer, will the Wembley goalposts and crossbar be heading north? 😉

Well, Sid wasn't in the original line-up anyway. In fact, Sid couldn't play for $h1t.

To get an interesting take on 1977 and the Pistols, read Apathy For The Devil by Nick Kent. Good read.

miketually - Member

Cool; I only saw the last 5 months of 1977 the first time around.

Snap!

I wasnt born either (not for another 13 years)

was the weather as hot as 2003, cos that was mental. We went to France and I remember the hire car had a temp gauge that read 42 deg one afternoon!!

[i]"To be given the opportunity to [s]re-evaluate[/s] squeeze every last penny out of the Sex Pistols catalogue is every music lover's dream," said Universal's Karen Simmonds.[/i]

They've already release Flogging a Dead Horse ffs

[i]Well, Sid wasn't in the original line-up anyway. In fact, Sid couldn't play for $h1t.[/i]

that's what I need, a bit of educating. 🙄

Snap!

July 24th?

The summer I was 16. the whole world changed that year.

Meh. I've already started work and I'll be buying my first motorbike in a few months 🙂

I didn't say you needed educating grumpy-drawers, I just meant that the music that the Sex Pistols are famous for was basically NMTB, which Sid had nothing to do with. So if they're reforming a band for some money-spinning gigs to pay for their Stannah stairlifts, they don't really need Sid anyway.

However, the prospect of sixty year old punk rockers whose idea of anarchy is to advertise butter is a little sad.

The summer I was 16. the whole world changed that year

Not musically, at least not for the general public.

Laydeezangennelmun, I give you the Number 1s for 1977. Eyewateringly poor, I think you'll agree, with the exceptions of Abba, Donna Summer, and possibly Rod Stewart.

Wings Mull Of Kintyre 29-11-1977
Abba Name Of The Game 01-11-1977
Baccara Yes Sir I Can Boogie 25-10-1977
David Soul Silver Lady 04-10-1977
Elvis Presley Way Down 30-08-1977
The Floaters Float On 23-08-1977
Brotherhood Of Man Angelo 16-08-1977
Donna Summer I Feel Love 19-07-1977
Hot Chocolate So You Win Again 28-06-1977
The Jacksons Show You The Way To Go 21-06-1977
Kenny Rogers Lucille 14-06-1977
Rod Stewart I Dont Want To Talk About It 17-05-1977
Deniece Williams Free 03-05-1977
Abba Knowing Me Knowing You 29-03-1977
Manhattan Transfer Chanson DAmour 08-03-1977
Leo Sayer When I Need You 15-02-1977
Julie Covington Dont Cry For Me Argentina 08-02-1977
David Soul Dont Give Up On Us 11-01-1977

However, the prospect of sixty year old punk rockers whose idea of anarchy is to advertise butter is a little sad.

Though, it has to be said - they made the square root of bugger all first time around, and they deserve a payday. Plus Lydon's funding PiL operations, so he needs some income.

The summer I was 16. the whole world changed that year.

Ooh is that when you joined a Union?

[i]So if they're reforming a band for some money-spinning gigs to pay for their Stannah stairlifts, they don't really need Sid anyway[/i]

Yes, that was a bit grumpy, wasn't it. 🙂
I don't think they are reforming anyway, just cashing in by releasing (rereleasing) some "records".
Hence my Flogging a dead horse reference.

Prize for cattiest (and funniest) comment of the day to Drac.

flogging a dead horse? Money grabbing? Thats what the whole escapade was about. Don't you know who killed bambi yet?

Ah so you believe Malcy then eh?

No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish.

I'll still be running around naked except for a pair of red wellies. 8)

[i]Eyewateringly poor, I think you'll agree[/i]

Not on Donna Summer, that's a small piece of genius, but the rest, yes.

*doesn't admit soft spot for Baccara's 'I Can Boogie'*

Anyway, I was three, I vaguely remember a street party.

[i] I give you the Number 1s for 1977[/i]

Erm show me a year with quality number ones? (although you'll be hard-pressed to be poorer than Leo Sayer in my view.)

If it's 1977 again, we have two years to prevent this:

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Look, she can already feel our junk in her hand... and it's squeezin' time. 😐

although you'll be hard-pressed to be poorer than Leo Sayer in my view.

I dunno; not one but two entries there from David Soul, The Floaters, Manhattan Transfer...that's a high s***-rate, it really is. I was 12 at the time, and just couldn't understand how anyone could listen to this sort of stuff.

Thankfully, my view's never changed.

Its not often you get a year where the change in youth culture is quite so defined. Punk blew the metal bands away. flares disappeared. ties went skinny, hair got cut. dope was for boring old farts, whizz was where it was at. Strutting arrogance became the pose.

It built thru 76 but in 77 it exploded. Youth culture changed

1979 looked a lot better. Still some utter turkeys in there (Dr Hook!) , but there are at least half a dozen I'd say still stand up.

Artist Song Title (Click to view) Date Number One
Pink Floyd Another Brick In The Wall 11-12-1979
The Police Walking On The Moon 04-12-1979
Dr Hook When Youre In Love With A Beautiful Woman 13-11-1979
Lena Martell One Day At A Time 23-10-1979
The Buggles Video Killed The Radio Star 16-10-1979
The Police Message In A Bottle 25-09-1979
Gary Numan Cars 18-09-1979
Cliff Richard We Dont Talk Anymore 21-08-1979
The Boomtown Rats I Dont Like Mondays 24-07-1979
Tubeway Army Are Friends Electric 26-06-1979
Anita Ward Ring My Bell 12-06-1979
Blondie Sunday Girl 22-05-1979
Art Garfunkel Bright Eyes 10-04-1979
Gloria Gaynor I Will Survive 13-03-1979
The Bee Gees Tragedy 27-02-1979
Blondie Heart Of Glass 30-01-1979
Ian Dury and The Blockheads Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick 23-01-1979
The Village People Y.M.C.A. 02-01-1979

TandemJeremy - Member
Its not often you get a year where the change in youth culture is quite so defined. Punk blew the metal bands away. flares disappeared. ties went skinny, hair got cut. dope was for boring old farts, whizz was where it was at. Strutting arrogance became the pose.

It built thru 76 but in 77 it exploded. Youth culture changed

Gosh.

In 1977 the music was better (I'm pretty sure we can say that about the Pistols too), the cars looked nicer and the drugs were better. I would say, we got the wrong stuff for this revival 🙂

Its not often you get a year where the change in youth culture is quite so defined.

I read something about hw everyone feels that about their teenage years.

Ask someone in their mid 20's now and they'll say that culture was at it's height in the early 2000's, Facebook kicked off, guitar bands and Indie came back after years of Ammerican influenced R&B, the Artic Monkeys changed record companies forever by getting a number 1 without one.

Ask someone in their mid 20's in 10 years time and they'll tell you people were taking to the streets to protest about conservative cuts, and Adel re-defined the music industry handing the power back to the record companies.

Its a fair point tinas but nothing has been like 1977 for a dramatic change in the whole youth culture

you're wrong TJ.

global communication at the touch of a button on a device nearly every kid now carries around with them.

twin towers

cctv

the wire on TV.

'77 was boring compared to what kids can do nowadays.

Its a fair point tinas but nothing has been like 1977 for a dramatic change in the whole youth culture [b]IMHO[/b]

FTFY

How about:
The death of most blokes aged 16-30 in the 40's?
The creation of a 'youth culture' sometime in the 50's?
The swiging 60's?
The 70's and all the hippies?
The 80's and ........(ok this is a possible low point)?
The 90's gave kids free parties?

Its a fair point tinas but nothing has been like 1977 for a dramatic change in the whole youth culture

The impact from House music still permeates 25 years later.

But that didn't happen in such a short space of time, nor has it changed the fashions and music dramatically in that short time - thats why 1977 was special - the pace of the change in a pre computer era

The 50s kicked it off for sure.

What seems to me different about the late 70s and early 80s is that a lot of us who were part of youth culture then still feel like we are. The first generation of perpetual teenagers?

slainte ❓ rob

Ever been to Shildon? In Shildon it's [i]still[/i] 1977.

you leave Shildon alone, it's a truly great place.

Punk was dead in 77.

'Ere Grandad_Jez - what about E's and proper dance music...even wiped out football hooliganism...

Perhpas the biggest since? how much effect right across the culture? fashions?

Pretty big I'd say based on the crap even us 12 yr olds were wearing at the time. Dayglo rubbish, acid house faces on everything... I just knew I had to get some pills down my neck asap.

I think that you'd've find that if it was a culture you were part of it's impact will have seemed much greater... everyone will seem to be doing it. Even in 77 I'm sure there were plenty of yoot that didn't jump whole heartedly with 2 feet into the new style.

Perhpas the biggest since? how much effect right across the culture? fashions?

Fassion is cyclic, a few yers ago converse trainers, long hair and checked shirts were in fassion amongst the indie crowd, there was even an ammusing then and now photo in the Reading Post of festival goers from 30 years appart wearing identical clothing! So saying that we still wear the fassions from '77 is misleading, plenty of people I went to ui with wandered around in neon dayglow stuff as early 90's rave culture was back in fassion.

And "the biggest since" kinda backs up the point I made, '77 might have been the biggest since '76, but you were too young to appreciate '76 so '77 becames the most infuential/best/whatever but to soemone a year older they just looked on '77 as building on what they were part of in '76, and someone a year younger in '78 was having the time of their life so '78 was the best.

And once you've 'grown up' you look on modern culture with dissintrest and distain and believe that the time you grew up was the best time.

It's a bit like saying summers were longer when you were a kid, they weren't, you just had nothign to compare it to at the time, I can't remember a single miserable summer growing up.

Spoony - I've witnessed you riding a mtb in leggings. You have no right to talk about fashion! Jezza on the other hand is more than happy to sacrifice safety in the pursuit of style.

TINAS I accept teh rose tinted glasses argument but I I still think the way it was so explosive and changed so much in such a short time is unparalleled. Its the short time scale adn the wide reach that makes it different IMO

And once you've 'grown up' you look on modern culture with dissintrest and distain and believe that the time you grew up was the best time.

This however I do not accept. I have enjoyed several cultural shifts since then. I do not live in the past culturally or musically.

I do not live in the past culturally or musically.

Oh god, I do. When I was a teenager, I used to giggle at the grizzled chap at the bar, bemoaning how Donington was rubbish, and all the bands just had shouting and growling singers, and that 1984 was where it was at when AC/DC headlined. I am now that grizzled chap. But female, obviously.

"Chase & Status? Who the bloody hell are they, and why are they above Machine Head? Why are all these boys whining and have their fringes brushed over one eye? Pah, I remember in the 90s when White Zombie and Pantera played, jumpers for goalposts, etc, etc"

And children's TV nowadays? Rubbish! Where's the Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Ulysess 31, Mysterious Cities of Gold or Dungeons & Dragons for the new generations? Or the deeply, deeply sinster Moomins and Let's Pretend?

i wasn't born

I was 12 in 77. Not quite old enough to grasp the punk thing, but I caught up over the next 2 years.

Putting up a list of No1 singles doesn't really mean much in this context, much more revealing about the influence of punk on music are the album charts from 1976-1979:

# Artist[a] Album[a] Record label[b] Reached number one[a] Weeks at
number one[a]
re Perry Como 40 Greatest Hits K-tel 4 January 1976 1
re Queen A Night at the Opera EMI 11 January 1976 2
164 Roy Orbison The Best of Roy Orbison Arcade 25 January 1976 1
165 Slim Whitman The Very Best of Slim Whitman United Artists 1 February 1976 6
166 Status Quo Blue for You Vertigo 14 March 1976 3
167 Rock Follies Rock Follies Island 4 April 1976 2
168 Led Zeppelin Presence Swan Song 18 April 1976 1
re Rock Follies Rock Follies Island 25 April 1976 1
169 ABBA Greatest Hits Epic 2 May 1976 9
170 Rod Stewart A Night on the Town Riva 4 July 1976 2
171 The Beach Boys 20 Golden Greats Capitol 18 July 1976 10
172 The Stylistics The Best of the Stylistics Volume II H&L 26 September 1976 1
173 Dr. Feelgood Stupidity United Artists 3 October 1976 1
re ABBA Greatest Hits Epic 10 October 1976 2
174 Various artists Soul Motion K-tel 24 October 1976 2
175 Led Zeppelin The Song Remains the Same Swan Song 7 November 1976 1
176 Bert Weedon 22 Golden Guitar Greats Warwick 14 November 1976 1
177 Glen Campbell 20 Golden Greats Capitol 21 November 1976 6
178 Queen A Day at the Races EMI 2 January 1977 1
179 ABBA Arrival Epic 9 January 1977 1
180 Slim Whitman Red River Valley United Artists 16 January 1977 4
181 The Shadows 20 Golden Greats EMI 13 February 1977 6
182 Frank Sinatra Portrait of Sinatra Reprise 27 March 1977 2
re ABBA Arrival Epic 10 April 1977 9
183 The Beatles The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl Parlophone 12 June 1977 1
184 The Muppets The Muppet Show Pye 19 June 1977 1
185 Barbra Streisand & Kris Kristofferson A Star is Born CBS 26 June 1977 2
186 Johnny Mathis The Johnny Mathis Collection CBS 10 July 1977 4
187 Yes Going for the One Atlantic 7 August 1977 2
188 Connie Francis 20 All Time Greats Polydor 21 August 1977 2
189 Elvis Presley Elvis' 40 Greatest Arcade 4 September 1977 1
190 Diana Ross & the Supremes 20 Golden Greats Motown 11 September 1977 7
191 Cliff Richard & The Shadows 40 Golden Greats EMI 30 October 1977 1
192 Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols Virgin 6 November 1977 2
193 Bread The Sound of Bread Elektra 20 November 1977 2
194 Various artists Disco Fever K-tel 4 December 1977 6
re Bread The Sound of Bread Elektra 15 January 1978 1
195 Fleetwood Mac Rumours Warner Bros. 22 January 1978 1
196 ABBA The Album Epic 29 January 1978 7
197 Buddy Holly & The Crickets 20 Golden Greats EMI 19 March 1978 3
198 Nat King Cole 20 Golden Greats Capitol 9 April 1978 3
199 Original soundtrack Saturday Night Fever RSO 30 April 1978 18
200 Boney M Nightflight to Venus Atlantic 3 September 1978 4
201 Original soundtrack Grease RSO 1 October 1978 13
202 Showaddywaddy Greatest Hits Arista 31 December 1978 2
# Artist[a] Album[a] Record label[b] Reached
203 Various artists Don't Walk – Boogie EMI 14 January 1979 3
204 Various artists Action Replay K-tel 4 February 1979 1
205 Blondie Parallel Lines Chrysalis 11 February 1979 4
206 Bee Gees Spirits Having Flown RSO 11 March 1979 2
207 Barbra Streisand Barbra Streisand's Greatest Hits Vol. 2 CBS 25 March 1979 4
208 Leo Sayer The Very Best of Leo Sayer Chrysalis 22 April 1979 3
209 ABBA Voulez-Vous Epic 13 May 1979 4
210 Electric Light Orchestra Discovery Jet 10 June 1979 5
211 Tubeway Army Replicas Beggars Banquet 15 July 1979 1
212 Various artists The Best Disco Album in the World WEA 22 July 1979 6
213 Led Zeppelin In Through the Out Door Swan Song 2 September 1979 2
214 Gary Numan The Pleasure Principle Beggars Banquet 16 September 1979 1
215 Boney M Oceans of Fantasy Atlantic 23 September 1979 1
re Gary Numan The Pleasure Principle Beggars Banquet 30 September 1979 1
217 The Police Reggatta de Blanc A&M 7 October 1979 4
218 Fleetwood Mac Tusk Warner Bros. 4 November 1979 1
219 ABBA Greatest Hits Vol. 2 Epic 11 November 1979 3
220 Rod Stewart Greatest Hits, Vol. 1 Riva 2 December 1979 5
(The very last digit is the number of weeks at No1)
I think this really shows the non-influence of punk on music at the time.

apart from punk was not about albums but singles and live music surely?

do the same for the 60s and you don't get what we now think of as the influential music of the time showing up strongly

John Lydon definitely puts the Count in Country Life.