[Closed] Is this dress white/gold or black/blue?

White/Gold

Here's another photo of the same dress though

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White/gold.

What you doing in my wardrobe ??? 😯

Eh?

Gold and white, clearly. How strange.

I see it as blue and gold so I think I'm on my own.

I see it as blue and gold so I think I'm on my own.

Me too, but my colour vision is borked in one of my eyes.

i see it as blue and gold too..

however... as i scroll down the page so that only the bottom half of the image of the dress is showing in the browser... it turns blue and black...!!

White and gold. Depending on what you're looking at it on, pc/ tablet etc, the white bits can have a fairly bluish tint.

That other blatantly blue and black dress is the same style but clearly completely different from the first one.

I can see both, but my brain eventually resolves on blue and black (which is the real colour of the dress, you can buy it online).

The problem with looking at it on a LCD screen is that you can vary the colour by moving your head from side to side/top to bottom.

That other blatantly blue and black dress is the same style but clearly completely different from the first one.

It's a photo of the same person at the same event.

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Wow i say white and gold but if I look at the blue one and scroll up it is Blue and then flips to white/gold

blue/lilac and gold?

Someone use the dropper tool on photoshop to find out what the colour really is?

Blue/black.

White/gold people, your eyes are all ****ed, you should stop staring at screens and get outside more. 😉

I see blue and gold on your pics but white and gold on all the pics on social media.

Blue and Brown.

I think what you have is the camera freaking out and over-exposing because of the brightness outside, and the internal shop lighting probably being fluorescent, hence the blue tint.

I see it as gold and lilac, which technically is correct going by my colour picker.

It's Blue and Black/Dark Brown

RGB levels for a random point in the blue bit are 124 138 183

Which is this:

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Does anyone see this as white?

That's weird it was white and gold this morning but now its blue and black. Saw it on my phone both times.

Whut?

Is this some sort of in-joke? It's clearly blue and black with possibly looking more gold than black at the top of the first image.

[url= http://is.gd/ne4ZeP ]This image[/url] might help explain how it can look different to different people. All that's changed between the two versions is the exposure (brightness).

This image might help explain how it can look different to different people. All that's changed between the two versions is the exposure (brightness).

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So some people have over exposed eyes. Makes sense now.

Yes, surely the issue here is more how the picture was taken and what it's displayed on?

If we all saw it in the flesh we'd all agree (apart from the colour blind)

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White and gold for me.

It's quite an interesting and strongly divisive [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_%28color%29 ]metamerism effect[/url].

Still divides opinion when viewed on the same device from exactly the same viewing angle 😀

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"Make sure you don't pull that black and blue cloak too hard, the gold and white one needs a good tug to get it off though"

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Does anyone see this as white?

That's interesting. I see the dress in the photo as a sort of ivory, moving to very pale blue if I only view the bottom of the image. The other photo looks dark blue and I was shocked to see it so dark.

However the colour square Mr C posted is pretty much half way between the two colours!

The issue is certainly with the crappy phone camera picture as it was taken - but regardless, after it's been taken we are all looking at the same pixels (the effect is independent of screen quality/calibration it seems).

It's something about the configuration of the other pixels in the image that makes our brains interpret the light blue of Mr C's square as either dark blue or white. Fascinating.

Are the highlights simply badly clipped in the picture?

Crap camera / photo not showing colours correctly?

Yes but the point is how we see the exact same image very differently.

Just looks like someone hasn't done a white balance to me.

I think you are missing the point.

Two crap photos of the same thing. One on a shit phone camera and the other massively over exposed.

* And that's from someone with pretty poor colour blindness.

me missing the point?

Yes. Regardless of why the image looks weird, the issue is that different people perceive it differently even though we are looking at the exact same thing.

Some people see it as royal blue and black, some as white and gold - which is a huge variation.

I see it as pale blue and very mucky gold if I'm honest. I correct it myself to know that it's white thanks to bad white balance.

Yes but the point is how we see the exact same image very differently.

Yes, some people see it as blue and black (correctly), and some people have broken eyes.

I've tried on a bunch of different screens, under different lighting, after looking at different colours, and there's no way I can see anything other than blue and black.

I see it as pale blue and very mucky gold if I'm honest. I correct it myself to know that it's white thanks to bad white balance.

Funny that, seeing as it's actually a blue and black dress!

I'm with you all the way. Except that last bit. 'cos it's white and gold.

Either way Peterfile, I'm just not sure it's 'you'.

Either way Peterfile, I'm just not sure it's 'you'.

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Yes, some people see it as blue and black (correctly)

Whilst the original dress may be blue and black it's daft to suggest that the people who see [i]the photo[/i] as white/blue and gold are wrong.

what is blue? what is gold?

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Its a dresss made out of fabric that has the same effect as those chavy cars that look purple from 1 direction and orange from another.

Whilst the original dress may be blue and black it's daft to suggest that the people who see the photo as white/blue and gold are wrong.

In real life, the dress is blue and black. If you use an eyedropper tool on the computer, the blue bit comes out as a blue. Even the most washed-out bit of the black comes out as a muddy grey.

It's an interesting effect, and does tell us quite a bit about how the brain interprets colours, but seeing something other than black/blue is wrong.

In the top photo I see a kind of desaturated blue and black, in the lower photo I see a deeper blue and black, But I saw another photo of it this morning and it looked white and gold.

It's an interesting effect, and does tell us quite a bit about how the brain interprets colours, but seeing something other than black/blue is wrong.

Huh?. You just pointed out that using the eyedropper tool it isn't blue and black - in fact it's blue and a set of muddy yellow, brown and grey colours. We're not looking at the the dress in reality so it matters not a whit what colour it actually is.

There is barely a pixel of anything even close to black on the whole image so you're just as "wrong" as those saying white and gold.

Looks like the emperor's new clothes to me.

I'm seeing two vastly different coloured items, one is white and gold and the other is black and blue, so? What's everyones point, it makes no sense to me.

I'm seeing two vastly different coloured items, one is white and gold and the other is black and blue, so? What's everyones point, it makes no sense to me.

People are looking at the first photo you describe and their brain is interpreting it in one of two* different ways. Blue and black or White and Gold as you see it.

*three if you include blue and gold which as said is what I see

i see white/gold but if i scroll down then back up its blue and black and stays that way . if i dont look at the computer for a few mins it goes back to white/gold for a while. weird

White n' gold to me, no matter how quick i scroll up n' down to the blue/black dress.

If you are debating the colour then you need a new camera phone or a new pooter. Either way I hope the designer earn tonne of cash from the herd.

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If you are debating the colour then you need a new camera phone or a new pooter. Either way I hope the designer earn tonne of cash from the herd.

Or, to avoid having to spend money on a new phone or computer, maybe you could do a bit of background reading on the science behind why we see things differently?

If you are debating the colour then you need a new camera phone or a new pooter.

Point is, it makes no difference. Some of us looking at the same image see it in radically different colours.

Interesting how people can't even understand the argument, they're that sure it's blue/black/white/gold.

ZOMG!

Just looked at it again - IT'S GETTING MORE BLUE!

This morning it was ivory, now it's sky blue!

You just pointed out that using the eyedropper tool it isn't blue and black - in fact it's blue and a set of muddy yellow, brown and grey colours.

So we're agreed on the blue? None of the others are anywhere near gold 😉

It's interesting. There also appears to be a gender difference, at least according to my other half who frequents Mumsnet. But the brain is an odd thing - I can't watch 3D movies for instance, the 3D effect just doesn't work for me.

Blue and black.

I just cant see how so many are getting white and gold from! Admittedly i am colour blind so this perplexion can be quite a common occurence for me 😀

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that horizontal stripes are not the most flattering look, then again i doubt the girl who originally posted the picture would have any idea it would end up on a MTB forum that is well known to foster argumentative meanderings leading to 100page+ threads.

Just got to work Scottish independence into the discussion somehow 😀

I was looking at the sky earlier and it was blue. It's now gone grey. Science eh?

Okay... so by tilting the screen on my laptop is changes from on to the other, where's the bafflement in that, colours change that way in LCD screens...

This is what Mr Berners-Lee was really hoping the internet would become.

Absolutely, 100% blue and black. I can't actually fathom how people can say white and gold.

When i first viewed it, it was white and gold, when i scrolled back up for another look it was blue and black, i need to lie down. 😯

By the by, these are what my computer pulls out as the characteristic tones of the dress
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I reckon it'd be hard to argue for blue and black or white and gold being "correct".

I see blue mrs zip sees white.

The dress is blue and black. A combination of the camera, lighting and computer screen renders those colours differently. Some people's brains correctly adjust for that, some people's brains don't.

Does that cover it?

I can't actually fathom how people can say white and gold.

We aren't taking the piss - that's what it looks like! To get your head around it, just remember that your eyes are just little cameras. So if two cameras can record an image differently, so can two eyes.

Both my eyes have a different white balance, incidentally, so I can demonstrate this very well to myself. I've not seen this mentioned on the internet, perhaps I'm special.

so by tilting the screen on my laptop is changes from on to the other, where's the bafflement in that, colours change that way in LCD screens...

That's quite common on cheap screens. It's because each pixel is actually three (or four) pixels arranged in the same order each time - so from the top one colour is more visible, and from the bottom the other. Or left and right. However better screens don't seem to suffer.

My wife's chromebook is awful for this, my work laptop is completely consistent whatever angle.

The dress is blue and black. A combination of the camera, lighting and computer screen renders those colours differently. Some people's brains correctly adjust for that, some people's brains don't.

Does that cover it?

Well maybe but it ignores the interesting bit which is that it could equally well have been the other way around (i.e. the real dress was gold and white) without the image changing a single pixel and we'd have been equally entrenched in our idea of what colour the dress was. There simply isn't enough information in the photograph to tell us what colour the object in the world was and yet our brain creates an image which is very difficult to change.

https://xkcd.com/1492/

Whiteish light blue and gold here - 40yr old male on iPhone screen (which is IPS screen so not prone to the viewing angle colour shifts like TN screens)

If I close my eyes almost completely then I can see it is much more blue.

I guess it is to do with how our brains attempt to interpret the colour we are seeing when we can see the image is over-exposed and badly colour balanced?

With the eye dropper test Ben are you sampling over a large area by dragging out a sample box, or are you just taking a single pixel?

Also, xkcd:

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I guess it is to do with how our brains attempt to interpret the colour we are seeing when we can see the image is over-exposed and badly colour balanced?

Yes, and it's fascinating how good our brains usually are at this - I do quite a bit of night photography and the raw images afterwards are much, much more orange than I remember the scene. I have to adjust the white balance a lot to get the photograph to match what I think I saw.

With the eye dropper test Ben are you sampling over a large area by dragging out a sample box, or are you just taking a single pixel?

I was just using a quick single-pixel tool, so not particularly accurate.

Try an area one. Some did that on the "gold/black" bit on Facebook and the result was very gold.

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i see it as blue and gold too..

however... as i scroll down the page so that only the bottom half of the image of the dress is showing in the browser... it turns blue and black...!!

A similar thing happened to me 😯

I see it as white & gold but when I look at the second pic, then the first one I see it as blue and black

Try an area one. Some did that on the "gold/black" bit on Facebook and the result was very gold.

And on here 😉 ...
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