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Can't post a video from twitter, however the tories have now gone full Trump & promised to "make Britain great again" 😆
They did so in a top secret aircraft hanger in the middle of nowhere to an audience of about 40 party members & some journos...
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Great again compared to what? The previous years of Tory leadership?
There's some hard thinking going on.
Great again compared to what? The previous years of Tory leadership?
Delivering salvation from the previous 7 years?
No wonder it was selected invites? 100 people hand up asking why they had made it rubbish in the first place - and WTF does it actually mean Mrs Slogan
I'm going to have a punt on May not being the leader of the Tory party by the weekend
I will take the other side of that. Shall we bet in baked products 😉
The recent polls and news coverge are a fabrication to genetate click-ad revenue. Whether you call 75 seats a landslide I don't know but its going to be a very clear Tory win. As for the rally photos above clerly Tory voters don't care for standing around outside with placards, what they do generally care about is actually voting.
The recent polls and news coverge are a fabrication to genetate click-ad revenue.
So you keep saying, how are they different to the ones before the it was called that May commissioned, or the internal ones the tories have commissioned?
Are you questioning the integrity of the mainstream UK Press here or just in denial?
Are you not worried about a leader who appears afraid of people, who can't answer questions and only speaks in slogans - well like Trump Lite really.
I guess her incompetence leads you closer to a Flounce Brexit.
Boris being roasted on the Today programme. The interviewer even corrected him on Corbyn's stance on shoot to kill. The worm has truly turned. Even the journalists don't believe a word they say anymore and are confronting their desperate personal attacks on Corbyn.
Bloody hell he won't even defend Sadiq Khan in the face of unhinged attacks by Donald Trump. Michelle Hussein just told him to 'stop talking' 😀
Even the Daily Hate had a column and a couple of prominent headlines online yesterday night which would normally be unthinkable so close to an election. Knives are out for May already, you can tell Dacre is seriously unimpressed with her performance...
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My mistake - the tory rally I alluded to previously was actually held in a haunted warehouse in the middle of a deserted industrial estate
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FML. So I'm now in agreement with The Daily Heil and Pierced Organ?!?!?
The world really has gone loopy
[quote=dazh ]Boris being roasted on the Today programme. The interviewer even corrected him on Corbyn's stance on shoot to kill. The worm has truly turned. Even the journalists don't believe a word they say anymore and are confronting their desperate personal attacks on Corbyn.
Bloody hell he won't even defend Sadiq Khan in the face of unhinged attacks by Donald Trump. Michelle Hussein just told him to 'stop talking'
just listened to that on my drive into work. it was painful.
just had me thinking that corbyn really does have the tories rattled. I think they are starting to panic and believe they might actually lose this.
That was one daily heil link I was happy to click on. Piers Morgan man of truth.
I think I might actually hate May more than the tories.
Nasty ****ing bitch.
It's because they're now in a position on security - where they've been accusing Corbyn of being weak - where Mays own position as Home Secretary now looks frankly indefensible.
Reducing police numbers by 20,000 has made us safer, has it?
Care to run us through exactly how that works then?
No.... thought not....
Everyone can now see where years of idealogically driven cuts have got us. And it isn't safer. And she can't get away with not answering this question, and evading her responsibility for it
Boris being roasted on the Today programme. The interviewer even corrected him on Corbyn's stance on shoot to kill. The worm has truly turned. Even the journalists don't believe a word they say anymore and are confronting their desperate personal attacks on Corbyn.Bloody hell he won't even defend Sadiq Khan in the face of unhinged attacks by Donald Trump. Michelle Hussein just told him to 'stop talking'
Frankie Boyle has a fantastic way of distilling it into one snippet:
Oswald Mosley’s soul trapped in a Furby.
We done this yet? It's not a spoof! I'm swinging back to the view that they're trying to deliberately lose, it's the only possible explanation for this display of rank incompetence.
Boris being roasted on the Today programme
I heard it too and I didn't think it was as bad as some of the recent car crash stuff..... but it wasn't proficient either.
They seem to have gone from pushing May / Strong and Stable at every opportunity to realising she is a liability, and have switched focus onto 'is Corbyn the man you want running the Brexit negotiations / in charge of anti-terror....etc.' and the more i see of him the more I think actually yes, I think he would be preferable. And certainly more preferable running social care, NHS, and so on. I don't think Lynton Crosby will be asked back......
Michelle Hussein just told him to 'stop talking'
and it was the one time he did and it sort of backfired on her (even though it was what we were all thinking) - but i suspect she was going to say something like 'stop talking about JC/Diane Abbott' before he very quickly turned it on her.
just had me thinking that corbyn really does have the tories rattled. I think they are starting to panic and believe they might actually lose this.
The few openly tory friends I have on FB had been very quiet on the topic of politics until the past few days, and now they're all trying to fling IRA-laden dirt about Corbyn to anyone who'll listen. One (a strong remainer), in a spectacular act of cognitive dissonance was worrying about what a Corbyn win would mean for Brexit in the middle of his anti-Labour rant. It really is all rather amusing.
We done this yet? It's not a spoof!
Holy Shit!
EDIT: Hang on, there's more!
although my heart sank a bit when they announced straight after that Diane Abbot was on womens hour later on today. keep an eye out for the car crash interview stories later.
Wow.... is he an actual MP or just somebody who could fit into a stolen suit? Video production done by is grandma?
quick check
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Yorkshire_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
170th on the list of safe tory seats, he could have taken a dump on the video and still been elected. But still the non voters are more than enough to get rid of him 😉
Diane Abbot is 'ill' and has been replaced by Thornberry. The labour party are getting quite good at this politics lark I think.
We done this yet? It's not a spoof! I'm swinging back to the view that they're trying to deliberately lose, it's the only possible explanation for this display rank incompetence.
Just seen this.
Chris Morris could not do better.
[quote=dazh ]Diane Abbot is 'ill' and has been replaced by Thornberry. The labour party are getting quite good at this politics lark I think.
when they say 'ill', do they mean locked in a room away from any form of communication?
It's a sad indictment of the calibre of British politics that Thornberry is starting to look impressive (comparatively speaking).
We done this yet? It's not a spoof!
I had to listen to the song 3 times to convince myself I wasn't being offered caterpillar tea
Holy Shit!EDIT: Hang on, there's more!
I preferred his earlier stuff. You know, before he sold out and went all mainstream.
If only Corbyn dumped Abbot, I just can't see her as part of the government.
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[quote=km79 ]If only Corbyn dumped Abbot, I just can't see her as part of the government.
pretty sure that would be in the terms of any coalition...
Not sure about his Brexit negotiating strategy though. Could backfire..
(Guardian)He said he would invite the German chancellor to the Emirates stadium to watch his team Arsenal in an effort to develop a friendly relationship. “With Angela Merkel, we can discuss football and Brexit. I want to say to her that I like the German fanbase model [of running football clubs]. Then I’ll invite her to come and watch Arsenal.”
dazh,
Thanks for that Greg Knight advert. The suit was a work of genius Reminded me of an oversold yet under-flavoured bag of old crisps, cunningly disguised as a human-being. Replete with depressingly Partridge-esque jingle!
Has Corbyn seen what the Germans do to Arsenal?
This election has to be of the lowest quality I remember, both main parties are filled with people who are just hopeless and are actively disliked internally and externally. Heaven help us.
Can I vote for a hung parliament? 😉
Chris Morris could not do better.
I guess it wouldn't have all been funny, if it wasn't painfully close to the truth.Partridge-esque jingle!
I think it's probably the way of all future elections. Social media leaps on anything so quickly that populism and soundbites rule. Slurs and innuendo get repeated ad infinitum. At least we're seeing some realtime fact-checking though.This election has to be of the lowest quality I remember
This election has to be of the lowest quality I remember, both main parties are filled with people who are just hopeless and are actively disliked internally and externally.
A frustrated Tory might say that.
Certainly The Conservatives have been beaten into submission with an out of touch piss-poor media sound biting and vacuous policies.
I'm not saying that will translate into votes.
Can I vote for a hung parliament?
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"This election has to be of the lowest quality I remember, both main parties are filled with people who are just hopeless and are actively disliked internally and externally. Heaven help us."
And it's just going to get worse - the level of respect we give to people standing for parliament (for all parties) has pretty much reached the level where we feel entitled to abuse them. Couple with this with the systematic abuse and value judgements made by the left on anyone they disagree with and we're rapidly heading towards a democracy in which people stop talking about politics for fear of retribution.
A perfect example of this is one of our local candidates for the election - she told me that earlier in the day she'd knocked on the door to a house to be answered by an 8 year old girl. The mum called from the kitchen to ask who it was and when the candidate replied "hello I'm your local candidate" received a torrent of abuse from the kitchen. When the mum finally came to the door her 8 year old daughter told her "but mummy that's Amelia from School's mum".
I can't see any sane person would put themselves forward for office moving forward - we'll just be left with the dross who have never done anything and can't do any more than talk sound bites and simplistic contradictory responses to complex problems - Dianne Abbott is probably the best example of this at present but I'm sure there are many more in all 3 main parties.
That mash link - "Keep the reins of power well away from the ****ing lot of them." laughing out loud at that one.
Just heard a bit of Johnson, no car crash but good to see him called on his lie about what Corbyn actually said re:shoot to kill,. What's the betting he goes in to repeat the lie in his next interview though,I expect the Tories will ramp up the fibbing as we near the finish..
It will work on some, look at those bitter old nukefans on the debate.
Sad the Tories will win, but they'll have dragged themselves through the mud to get there. May is diminished, she's lost a lot of respect, even if she did get her landslide of [s]150[/s] [s]100[/s] 75, strong & stable May is now a joke and her political epitath
And it's just going to get worse - the level of respect we give to people standing for parliament (for all parties) has pretty much reached the level where we feel entitled to abuse them. Couple with this with the systematic abuse and value judgements made by the left on anyone they disagree with and we're rapidly heading towards a democracy in which people stop talking about politics for fear of retribution.
the left in particular? I'm guessing we can remove the Mail, Express, Sun etc. from the list of people keen to talk policy?
Personally I'd with we could get on with policy discussions, honest ones where MP's and candidates are held up to account. Where live fact checking during interviews is the norm, where they could be presented with the words they are trying to manipulate from other candidates - see Borris this morning for example, finally picked up on endless misquoting.
I want both sides to be soundly checked and asked hard questions, be made to explain beyond slogans - what does red white and blue brexit mean?
Respect is earned.
Whether you call 75 seats a landslide I don't know but its going to be a very clear Tory win.
Not long ago, you were saying 100-150 seats. If the opinion polls are fabricated, why have you changed your mind?
A frustrated Tory might say that.
So you think people like Diane Abbott are good then? Or Corbyn's performance on Womens hour?
I think your bias means you can't see the faults on all sides.
martinhutch that has floored me.
Greg Knight is so ****** BADARSE that he has a PUFFIN in his coffee. Bet he doesn't even need to ask for it. They just, you know, DO it and hand it. Smooth. (Swoons a little)
This election has to be of the lowest quality I remember, both main parties are filled with people who are just hopeless and are actively disliked internally and externally.
Yes and no. I firmly believe it's a turning point and the most important election in recent history. With the recent political turbulence I don't think it's an accident all the candidates are marred in some way.
What is nice to see is fact-checking, and not a complete reliance on paper media (which has been – predictably – utterly shocking in its portrayal of the campaign).
- Dianne Abbott is probably the best example of this at present but I'm sure there are many more in all 3 main parties.
Abbott has been on the right side of history regards war in the middle East, May hasn't even got that, coupled with her legacy as home sec and her disastrous campaign, I think I she safely takes the biscuit.
Couple with this with the systematic abuse and value judgements made by the left on anyone they disagree with and
Still you managed to blame mean lefties for picking on snowflake right-wingers so all is good 😉
Doublepost
Greg Knight is so ****** BADARSE that he has a PUFFIN in his coffee.
Saw that too. Top level Bilderberg stuff right there. 🙂
Does anybody else think Diane Abbott might be actually ill?
Just look at her performance pre election on political talk shows, she's normally sharper than at present?
Saw that too. Top level Bilderberg stuff right there.
😆
3 min 22 is most worrying. Imbibing the Dark Lord's invisi-jizz, or giggling uncontrollably at Trumpmania's positive effect upon her being? Either way I'm out.
Does anybody else think Diane Abbott might be actually ill?
I would accept that she might have something going on. If that's the case though and it prevents her from carrying out her duties as shadow home-sec then she would have had a ready-made and respectful reason for stepping aside. Whatever the reason, it at least means she we have no further part in this campaign, which is probably a good thing. Theresa May will be extremely jealous though, she'd jump at the chance of calling in sick.
So you think people like Diane Abbott are good then? Or Corbyn's performance on Womens hour?
To take Corbyn's performance on Woman's Hour, he reacted by apologising and supplying the correct figures. In contrast to the Maybot, it gives me the sense that he's actually a human being.
May's performance in the leaders debate was flawless, she didn't make a single mistake in anything she said.
May talked a lot, and said nothing?
May's performance in the leaders debate was flawless, she didn't make a single mistake in anything she said.
Time to re-post her interview with the Plymouth Herald:
The Herald: “Two visits in six weeks to one of the country’s most marginal constituencies – is she getting worried?”
May: “I’m very clear that this is a crucial election for this country.”
TH: “Plymouth is feeling the effects of military cuts. Will she guarantee to protect the city from further pain?”
M: “I’m very clear that Plymouth has a proud record of connection with the armed forces.”
TH: “How will your Brexit plan make Plymouth better off?”
M: “I think there is a better future ahead for Plymouth and for the whole of the UK.”
TH: “Will you promise to sort out our transport links?”
M: “I’m very clear that connectivity is hugely important for Plymouth and the south-west generally.”
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May talked a lot, and said nothing?
The called in sick and sent Amber Rudd one
Or Corbyn's performance on Womens hour?
So what, he got a but flustered in an interview. That takes nothing away from what he has done and continues to do and more importantly what his intentions are if in government.
Compared to what May's intentions are - presumably to continue to run down public services, take money from poor and disabled and give tax breaks to the rich. I say presumably because the manifesto gives nothing away and she gives away even less.
Told ya. Talk a lot, say nowt
She didn't talk at all
Couple with this with the systematic abuse and value judgements made by the left on anyone they disagree with and
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now just5mins stay after class and write
'I must not make shit up on the internet' 100x
So - the latest Yougov simulation thingy shows 304/266 Con/Lab. Now I know it's highly controversial and the other polls don't agree, but ignore that for the moment.
Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times?
[quote=molgrips ]So - the latest Yougov simulation thingy shows 304/266 Con/Lab. Now I know it's highly controversial and the other polls don't agree, but ignore that for the moment.
Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times?
werent the 2015 polls showing a labour win?
In 2015 we didnt have a "Labour" party. Just a really shit brand name offering more Tory policy with a red badge sewn on.
werent the 2015 polls showing a labour win?
Most polls predicted a Tory win, though I think the margin was larger than predicted.
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Told ya. Talk a lot, say nowt
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😆 STW classic gold, there!
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Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times? [/I]
Perhaps the Madrid bombings in 2004.
And so we find ourselves on the receiving end of three significant terrorist events in as many months, the latest only days before a G.E.
Then Labour use that event to criticize the Government without, it seems, stopping to consider that they could be doing exactly what the terrorists want, in using the latest attack to convince people to vote in a certain way.
Imo, it's no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.
molgrips - Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times?
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A larger majority yet only 25% of the electorate voted for them, suggests a total lack of opposition.
See Ed Balls, Liam Byrne, Liz Kendal, Rachel Reeves, Yvette Cooper... They were espousing Tory policy. Why would a socialist vote for them, And this socialist certainly didnt. This socialist certainly couldnt.
So - the latest Yougov simulation thingy shows 304/266 Con/Lab. Now I know it's highly controversial and the other polls don't agree, but ignore that for the moment.
That seems hopelessly optimistic, but I'm torn whether a Labour/SNP coalition/pact would be an utter shitshow or a decent moderation of the hard Brexit frothers.
Perhaps the Yougov poll is a secret mechanism to terrify English pensioners into coming out in the rain to vote.
Imo, it's no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.
It's a good job the Conservative party would never seek any advantage in such a situation by suggesting their opponent was soft on terror.
after bexit I dont trust the polls, even jambs was parroting them the night before the vote saying would be a close remain win iirc
ICM & Comres both showing 10+ point lead for the tories vs yougov showing just 1-4% lead
358 guy was saying that UK pollsters have a terrible track record and their margin of error was huge
I agree with martinmuch the pensioners frottaged up on daily mail and telegraph stories of comrade corbyn will be out in force & save Maybots bacon
elsewhere
Hiding Abbot away was a wise move Thornberry making Rudd look rudderles on Womans Hour
Perhaps the Yougov poll is a secret mechanism to terrify English pensioners into coming out in the rain to vote.
That suggestion has been made.
after bexit I dont trust the polls
Apparently the same YouGov simulation that is giving NOM for the Tories got Brexit right....
Remember, YouGov is directed by a Tory, so conflict of interest there in any selective poling or skewed weighted questions
YouGov is an international Internet-based market research firm, headquartered in the UK, with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.[2] It has no known connection with the UK government despite the name. Stephan Shakespeare, the firm's CEO as of 2017, once stood as a Conservative candidate for Colchester; he was also a Conservative Party pollster.YouGov was founded in the UK in May 2000 by Shakespeare and Nadhim Zahawi. In April 2005, YouGov became a public company listed on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange.[3]
Shakespeare has been YouGov’s Chief Executive Officer since 2010.[4] Roger Parry has been YouGov’s Chairman since 2007. [5] Political commentator Peter Kellner was YouGov’s President until he stepped down in 2016. [6]
YouGov is a member of the British Polling Council.[7]
Just listened to women's hour.
Rudd ok but sounding like part of the past
Thornberry came over very composed for the most part and fairly open. Abbott may or may not be ill but Thornberry was a better choice.
I hadn't realised May tried to cut the police further but got vetoed by Osbourne of all people.
As an aside does anyone else thing Amber Rudd sounds like a real ale from Somerset. As in "I think I'll have a pint of Amber Rudd if you're buying".
[quote=Solo ]Then Labour use that event to criticize the Government without, it seems, stopping to consider that they could be doing exactly what the terrorists want, in using the latest attack to convince people to vote in a certain way.
Imo, it's no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.
Because the Tories weren't trying to make any political capital out of it at all 🙄
Of course IF it was intended to influence people voting it would seem likely the intention was to get people to vote for the party more traditionally associated with law and order. It's hardly Labour's fault that the Maybot personally presided over a huge cut in police numbers.
There's some desperate Tories on here. Still think they'll win though.
werent the 2015 polls showing a labour win?
On percentage they were saying neck and neck.
On predicted seats it was looking like the Blue party were a million miles away from being able to form a government. I started a thread about it at the time:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/election-not-that-close-at-all
I notice this time the media are being very cagey about projected seats, I don't recall those caveats last time.
Solo » Then Labour use that event to criticize the Government without, it seems, stopping to consider that they could be doing exactly what the terrorists want, in using the latest attack to convince people to vote in a certain way.
Imo, it's no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.
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I think what solo was trying to say was jezza and isis sitting in a tree...
As an aside does anyone else thing Amber Rudd sounds like a real ale from Somerset. As in "I think I'll have a pint of Amber Rudd if you're buying".
Always seems more of a bitter to me.
It's hardly Labour's fault that the Maybot personally presided over a huge cut in police numbers.
You could argue the opposite. If Labour had reigned in spending back in 2007/8 then cuts to Police numbers might have been less necessary later. (Labour had to overspend in 2007/8 because they were considering an early election - according to Blair's book.)
Mind ewe, Labour only had to overspend because voters wouldn't vote for them if they didn't.
So the real blame, as always, lies with us, the voters.