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this is why May was so desperate to hold a GE that she broke her promise not to hold one
the wheels are falling off, brexies just hope its not till after the GE
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seems like Murdoch is turning on the Maybot's shitshow
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Trump might be stupid but he know when he sees a bigger bit of cake.
The tories are either extremely confident (not surprisingly) and throwing out any policies they can so they don't then have to stick to them or they are underestimating the impact the changes will have.
The foreign aid one was odd as a lot of people in this country are "charity begins at home" so although we should be keeping the budget (or even increasing it) the wiser government would have slipped it through and not shouted about it knowing that a lot of people struggle with it (especially when at the same time you are not protecting pensions and taking off tax and NI locks)
The vast majority have suffered no consequences what-so-ever. Still in their houses. Those that have been foreclosed on will not have suffered a fraud conviction and "simply" have the defauit on their credit record.
Well that's good, I had no idea that not paying your mortgage had so little consequence - might knock mine on the head and save myself a few quid.
But Jambalaya, you said many times NHS should be part funded by people buying private médical insurance, like mutuelles in France.
Have you changed your mind ?
His principles are incredibly flexible. Sometimes less capable normal folk see this as him having broken his word and being a hypocrite.
He's getting older and aware of the amount of use he'll be making of the NHS soon.
Maybe
The tories are either extremely confident (not surprisingly) and throwing out any policies they can so they don't then have to stick to them or they are underestimating the impact the changes will have.
Or maybe they don't want to be in charge when Brexit really kicks in. They can throw the election, then when it all goes wrong say "that's Labours fault for not negotiating well enough".
I wonder how May will react when school teachers go on strike before the General election due to the cuts in school funding. The secondary school my boys attend are having to decide whether to increase class sizes to 45 and go to a four day week, or stop teaching Art, Languages, Drama and Technology. South Gloucester schools are being hammered in the so called Fair Funding For Schools. They'll be two Tory MP's voted out near me.
And we called George Osborne "Omnishambles"
Now that May has shown that this lady [b]is[/b] for turning (no early GE promise?) the right-wing press are straight on her, even if her policies are the right thing to do she will fold in no time.
Meanwhile
Michel Barnier is thinking [i] Bonbons d'un bébé [/i]
They'll be two Tory MP's voted out near me.
No there won't.
"A vote for Labour/LibDem is a vote for the SNP and the dissolution of the United Kingdom".
I'm not sure that line's going to work this time. Most of those who haven't worked out that a vote for Brexit/Tories is actually the quickest route to dissolution of the UK probably want Scotland to piss off.
A vote for Labour/LibDem is a vote for the SNP and the dissolution of the United Kingdom
LOL, because that vote for the Tories last time round has lead to a period of unprecedented stability and cohesiveness.
I didn't say it makes sense. That is the line that the daily mail and friends will take. And people will swallow.
"24 hours to save the United Kingdom", etc.
[i]I wonder how May will react when school teachers go on strike before the General election due to the cuts in school funding[/i]
Not well i expect. She clearly doesn't have the confidence of a strong leader. If she wins the GE I predict she will not stay PM until 2020 - she's simply not a strong enough leader to deal with it. I think Brexit negotiations will break her.
A vote for the Tories is a vote for the SNP.
Best way to push for Scottish independence is for the tories to continue as they are... or get more tory.
Two free tickets to Thorpe Park can't be bad though. Rollacoasters are handy metaphors when discussing economic or political fortunes.
Two free tickets to Thorpe Park can't be bad though
Ooh I missed that, I was distracted by the tits.
It's almost like they're [i]trying[/i] to lose isn't it?
I wonder just how bad the negotiations are looking?
Wonder if Murdoch has been asked to lose them the election?
I wonder if Murdoch has asked them to lose the election?
surely they have the skill that they can mess up a campaign without diggers help
to be fair she has become leader of a rabble tasked with serving up a terrible mess to the british public that she personally does not support and she now realises what will really happen* i almost feel sorry for her.I think Brexit negotiations will break her.
* no one will like the result will be sort of out, still paying and sort of still bound to them [ and their courts and possibly free movement]
that she personally does not support
Not so sure about that, she wasn't pro Brexit but the ECHR endlessly humiliated her when she was Home Secretary, or rather she endlessly humiliated herself and then blamed them. Plus, being a Tory, it's never about what's best for the country, just you and your mates.
[quote=footflaps ]she wasn't pro Brexit
The only thing she is pro is TM. Sure she might have set herself down on the Remain side, but that certainly doesn't mean there was some heartfelt belief there.
Farron says he will try to reverse this article 50 Brexit fiasco. As a result he gets my vote. It won't matter because in my constituency you could put a blue rosette on a donkey and it would be elected. However, my voting Lib Dem is a change of direction for me. Let's hope enough people in marginal constituencies have similar views. I don't for one second think the Lib Dems have a chance, but if they could get enough seats to go into coalition again, they might make it 'second referendum or no coalition'.
Hope springs eternal.
Lib dems are beyond the pale for me. I used to vote Lib Dem but Cleggs enabling of the tories, Farrons bigotry and Carmichael lying and the lib dems refusal to sack him showed them not to have any principles at all.
I shall see what sort of Labour candidate they put up in my constituency - last time they put up the corrupt and useless Lesley Hinds - ex leader of the council and no way could I vote for her.
Let's hope enough people in marginal constituencies have similar views.
I think you might be surprised. Both my parents are life-long Home Counties Conservative voters. They're aghast at Brexit, horrified that the Conservatives have got into bed with the likes of Farage. My 70yr+ mum texted to ask me to vote LibDem 'so we don't have to leave the EU' in our safe Tory seat. I didn't have the heart to tell her it was still going to happen. But for the first time they're actually politically engaged and I think there are a lot of sane, middle-class Tories out there in otherwise true-blue seats who feel the same way. Hell, I even know a Conservative MEP who would vote LD on this issue.
Sadly the Tories have got the marginals sewn up, far too many still believe that Brexit is going to fix their problems
footflaps - MemberNot so sure about that, she wasn't pro Brexit but the ECHR endlessly humiliated her when she was Home Secretary,
Her MO has often been failure by design so the number of times she walked into entirely foreseeable ECHR problems really made it feel like she wanted it to happen. "We'd have deported this person if not for the ECHR stopping us from protecting you!1!!". Stage management
He needs the pound to be humped a bit harder, make that Sky takeover a bit cheaper.I wonder if Murdoch has asked them to lose the election?
Sadly the Tories have got the marginals sewn up, far too many still believe that Brexit is going to fix their problems
The ultimate irony being that the Tories' austerity policies are the main source of many of their problems/concerns [you probably meant that, by implication, though]
The lib dems could recover their losses in 2015 by attracting the strategic Remainer vote.
Constituencies which voted Leave did not necessarily do so overwhelmingly and many people may have changed their minds anyhow.
The gov and media are going to try and undermine Farron and the lib dems by focusing on his views on homosexuality. It will come up in every interview from now on. It's too late to change leader now.
The Tories made a mistake by continuing austerity politics and May has not done enough to reassure the electorate on this issue.
So I'm predicting a Tory-Lib Dem coalition with a new PM.
Saying all that, the French elections could change everything.
So I'm predicting a Tory-Lib Dem coalition with a new PM.
can you really see the lib-dems going into coalition again? Didn't really work out so well for them last time...
Yawn.
If you are concerned, go and campaign - door knocking, preach to the converted, be insulted by some and ignored by others.
I've been there and done it.
Forums which are populated by keyboard warriors, pontificating endlessly are tedious.
Needs both Chris, more Government funding and better integration with the private sector like the rest of Europe.
The EU could not complete a trade deal with ultra friendly Obama despite years of trying and tens of millions spent. (US spent $30m who knows how much the EU blew on a negotiation Trump cancelled immediately)
Farron has ruled out a coalition with Labour but says he would go into one with the tories. Shows you how deluded he is and how right wing they have become under him.
Not going to happen tho - they won't get many more seats. None in Scotland where they used to get a few but the tory enabling and Carmicheal the liar mean they are toast in Scotland
No Farron has explicitly ruled out a coalition with May.
I want to make this clear.The Liberal Democrats will not enter into any coalition deal with either Theresa May’s Conservatives or Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party.
Farron has ruled out a coalition with Labour but says he would go into one with the tories. Shows you how deluded he is and how right wing they have become under him.
Well the progressives really don't have anywhere to go now.
well it is d day for us tomorrow in France .
quite undecided till today but think I am going with Macron . he is young and and the only candidate who is not a career politician .
some very strange choices . my family for example are mostly going for Melenchon .
The Liberal Democrats will not enter into any coalition deal with either Theresa May’s Conservatives or Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party.
Or to put it another way, "We have found out running the country requires unpopular decisions, so we don't want to do it because it will harm us electorally."
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Not going to happen tho - they won't get many more seats. None in Scotland where they used to get a few but the tory enabling and Carmicheal the liar mean they are toast in Scotland
This is the mistake people who write the lib dems off are making, since they underestimate the chance of the lib dems attracting the protest vote.
The lib dems will attract the protest Remainer vote which is by nature Pragmatic. This GE is basically going to be a re-run of the Referendum but with Remainers (or those sympathetic to Remaining) far more energised and likely to vote.
That means people will overlook perceived broken promises from the party in the past. It may also mean that Farron's distinctly un-Lib Dem views on homosexuality may prove to be inconsequential.
Re Farron saying he wouldn't go into government with May, well he wouldn't have to, since if she fails to get a majority she will be gone. So he would still be able to form a coalition with the Tories but just with a different PM.
we won't do this and we won't do that is all bollox frankly. If it ends up a hung parliament he'll just use the "national interest/for the unity of the nation", ala Nick Clegg, coverall crap. And all for a pocketful of mumbles...
quite undecided till today but think I am going with Macron . he is young and and the only candidate who is not a career politician .
Press reporting there are many undecideds even now.
Quite Trump-esque in his anyo-stablishment credentials ... ex Rothschild banker allegedly made €3-4m pa a lot of it held offshore ?
Anyway my gut feel is it's Le Pen in first place then likley Macron with Fillion an outside bet. Polls are all within margin of error between Le Pen / Macron / Fillion and Melachand (excuse dodgy spelling).
The second round campaigning is going to be very ugly
Mrs B will be voting later tomorrow.
@kimbers we need more Spring B/H's like a hole in the head, as per Queen's Jubilee we need a few more in June and/or July