[I]ton - Member
watching jism dry on the carpet is far far more interesting. [/I]
How uncharacteristically descriptive of you!
[I]CaptainFlashheart - Member
So, I was right! See? I'm right and EVERYONE else is WONG![/I]
Isn't "[I]Nip[/I]" just a truncation of "[I]Nippon[/I]"?
Anyway, inbeforethelock!
8)
Solo,
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Tips Stetson towards deadlydarcy then *chink chink chink*...walks out of the room.
Or how CM would want to see that old post.
Tips Stetson towards deadlydarcy then * * ****...walks out of the room.
LOL ^^
Aracer - you're neglecting to use context in your argument. No one is saying that a chink of armour should be abolished from the dictionary
CM and now Tom (though I'm now wondering if there is any difference...) appear to think the word should be banned. For all uses, because one very minor one (which doesn't ever seem to be used on here) is offensive.
Isn't "Nip" just a truncation of "Nippon"?
Interesting, and as Britons don't mind being referred to as Brits, are Nippons offended by Nip?
Confused.
Must be a context thing again.
Apologies aracer - I didn't have enough context to hand.
[I]slimjim78 - Member
Must be a context thing again. [/I]
Just as Cougar was trying to explain, much, much, very, much earlier.
Tom_W1987 » Got the numbers?
I'm sure you can use google but here are a few examples to get you started:
"Shite buckets - bike stolen, but a little chink of positive"
- from http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/shite-buckets-bike-stolen-but-a-little-chink-of-positive
"+1 for a solar eclipse. I went to Portland Bill in 99 for the UK one and we got lucky as a small chink opened up in the clouds just before totality. BIG CHEER."
- from http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wow-things-that-actually-did-make-you-go-wow#post-4663947
"Can't imagine the sense of hope that seeing that chink of light in what was starting to look like an ever darkening tunnel must feel like."
- from http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/so-ive-just-found-out-i-too-have-cancer/page/5#post-8351407
" If I have coins in my shorts the constant 'chink-chink-chink-arrghbastudlog-chink-chink-oolookasquirrel!' gets on me tits."
- from http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/man-bags-not-really#post-2667998
"country pub, went in during (tandem ) ride to get a drink, studiously ignored for a long time, eventually served when another customer commented on how expensive tandems were (= chink chink for pub). "
- from http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/smelly-cyclists#post-1884007
"Tips Stetson towards deadlydarcy then *chink chink chink*...walks out of the room"
- from http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/so-i-now-own-a-pair-of-cowboy-boots-anyone-else-is-this-the-start-of-the-end/page/2#post-1457894
Would you use the term ****ly?
Nope. I have no idea what it is and it's not in the OED. And I've already said that I agreed with CM that the N-word seems like a reasonable candidate for the swear filter as it doesn't really seem to have any alternative non-offensive meanings.
Aracer - you're neglecting to use context in your argument. No one is saying that a chink of armour should be abolished from the dictionary
Charlie is suggesting it should be added to the swear filter regardless of meaning or context and Tom seems to agree.
watching jism dry on the carpet is far far more interesting.
You say that but ... aaahhh .... yesss .... in fact you're correct.
Takeaway anyone? What type should we have?
[I]funkmasterp - Member
Takeaway anyone? What type should we have? [/I]
I sometimes go for an Indian, although the restaurant is actually owned and run by people from Bangladesh.
Did you mean niggardly? A word that can be traced back to the middle ages and has nothing at all to do with the word ****?Would you use the term ****ly?
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No one is saying that a chink of armour should be abolished
Where do you people get the stamina for this bullshit?
Are you on performance enhancing drugs or something?
No I'm asking whether Graham would excuse the term "****y" being invented or used to describe food from say a pan-african restaurant.
Because in regards to the original argument, he seems to think that it is acceptable to excuse chink in this context despite it being used in it's racial form - to describe food and not its other meanings.
Also, I see as a group - to defend your position - you are now posting pictures that are borderline.
Context again but I feel indifferent to the variety of things I could be called, or at least a lot less bothered than I am about what people call other races.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_names_for_the_British
Also, the word was on its way to extinction until the influx of Chinese immigrants to the USA.
I think we should go for Chinese, but for the love of God please don't order prawn crackers or we'll be back at square one.
Because in regards to the original argument, he seems to think that it is acceptable to excuse chink in this context despite it being used in it's racial from - to describe food and not its other meanings.
Where did I say that exactly?
Pretty sure I posted OED links [i]agreeing[/i] with CM that "Chinky" was offensive.
Its not a term I would use these days and neither would I use your theoretical term "****ly".
Also, I see as a group - to defend your position - you are now posting pictures that are borderline.
What "group"? I find juanghia's picture very "borderline" too. I toyed with reporting it.
You seem to be convinced there is a "them and us" where everyone is a racist except you.
And that's the thing, when you expect everyone to be racist you start assuming the worst: like thinking that everyone using the word "chink" must be doing so to be offensive even when they are clearly using it in a non-racial manner.
So the term being used for chinese food is offensive, cheers for clearing that up Graham. I must have missed it.
Would you also agree, that considering googles data, that there is a good possibility that the most common use of the term by far - is a racial one?
[I]Tom_W1987 - Member
Would you also agree, that considering googles data, that there is a good possibility that the most common use of the term by far - is a racial one?[/I]
Confirmation bias, anyone?
I didn't say definately did I, a cursory loom shows that line quite clearly elevates in the late 19th century and climbs until the tun up to the war when China was considered an ally - and then spikes again around the time of the US 1990s race riots.
Compare the usage of Jap and Chink and the war timeline.
Would you also agree, that considering goohles data, that there is a good possibility that tge most common use of the term by far - is a racial one?
Worldwide usage across the internet, a place where almost every comment section quickly dissolves into offensive attacks of one form or another?
Yeah I could probably believe that, though I don't think that evidence is compelling on its own.
Would you agree with the more civilised OED data that shows a current frequency band of 4 for the derogatory definition - i.e. the same as the "fissure" and "sharp sound" definitions?
Add chinky to it and you get a slightly increasing trend line in the 20s and then nothing in the 70s when chinese resteraunts boomed - so a lot of you are wrong in regards to the etymology of the "chinky" variant.
They had the internet in the 19th century?
Oh wow.
[quote=Tom_W1987 ]I didn't say definately did I, a cursory loom shows that line quite clearly elevates in the late 19th century and climbs until the tun up to the war when China was considered an ally - and then spikes again around the time of the US 1990s race riots.
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LOL.
Isn't that worldwide books though Tom - not necessarily any link to slang local uk usage.
(oh god I can't believe I've posted in this mess)
Anyway - this thread has passed into that space where people are arguing with points that nobody made, just so they can appear to be 'right'.
I don't think CM ever actually argued that 'chink' should be added to the filter - just 'chinky', as that doesn't seem to have dual use.
I don't think it's necessary due to lack of use/not leading to a general decay of the language used in the forum.
I cant really be arsed to design and run a regression analysis on this....but I will take a wild guess and say that there is a relationship between the drop in the use of the word Chink and the increase in the use of Jap.
[quote=AlexSimon ]I don't think CM ever actually argued that 'chink' should be added to the filter - just 'chinky', as that doesn't seem to have dual use.
Have you not read the whole thread (this is only a couple of pages back)
[quote=CharlieMungus ]I would be happy to see Chink and Chinky banned, because of their racially charged meaning,might a consequence of that was that there was one less word to describe a small gap, then that would be an acceptable loss
hmmm - that's in contradiction to other statements he made. Obviously nothing is going to be done.
[I]AlexSimon - Member
hmmm - that's in contradiction to other statements he made. Obviously nothing is going to be done. [/I]
Suggestions in a Fortune cookie, to STW towers?
[quote=AlexSimon ]hmmm - that's in contradiction to other statements he made. Obviously nothing is going to be done.
He's said the same or similar things multiple times - I'm curious what makes you think otherwise as he's been very consistent on that point, I don't think I've ever seen him suggest that chinky should be banned but not chink.
I don't think CM ever actually argued that 'chink' should be added to the filter - just 'chinky', as that doesn't seem to have dual use.
Pretty sure he did:
I suggested that there was some consistency in the banning of offensive terms. [b]I would be happy to see Chink and Chinky banned[/b], because of their racially charged meaning,might a consequence of that was that there was one less word to describe a small gap, then that would be an acceptable loss.
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We can't talk about a chink of light, as we often do. But currently we can't talk about how I'd like to **** someone for talking like a ****
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Trying to demonstrate that adding chink to the swear filter might be a helpful thing and demonstrate some commitment to restrict the use of racist terminology..
(and various other posts that I can't be bothered digging up)
hmmm - that's in contradiction to other statements he made.
He has variously stated that meaning and intent don't matter and also that they do.
So we're now on page 20, we've beaten mumsnet, can we stop now?
Isn't "Nip" just a truncation of "Nippon"?
You mean like **** and ****stan?
So we're now on page 20, we've beaten mumsnet, can we stop now?
Yep. Make sure you clean up, though.
There's a beaker over there.
Im actually tempted to run a regression analysis for the lolz.
in the old days when teej and fred contributed to posts and got a nice debate going, it was fun.
this is just boring shyte.
Needs more meaningless graphs.
[I]CaptainFlashheart - Member
There's a beaker over there. [/I]
The one full of water, next to the bed?
[I]ton - Member
this is just boring shyte. [/I]
And yet, here you are 😉
Could it be that all your years on this Forum in addition to the passing of time, in general, has changed you and your opinion on these threads?
Or perhaps you're just stuck to the carpet at the moment.
