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Just so we're clear,The comment which was deleted stated that America was "a place we sent Religious nut jobs and the Irish to go and in breed.." and you're asserting that this is a good example of moderation due to political correctness?
Wow, that's me bang to rights.
No, point taken that's me banged to rights, I'd even forgotten what it was, very true though...
So did it have gears? ๐
You should go to the ballet then ๐
Black is a colour or a lack of colour, eliminating the use of a colour as an adjective or adverb is pretty perverse.
you are probably correct but can you give me an example of it being used positively - Black then something good?
It is not the biggest issue and not something i lose sleep over
Kryton in the US you have to say coloured as black is the offensive term iirc
do you and your fellows Junkyard now consider it an insult to be called PC?
I dont get as upset as you do when you get called a racist - who knew you were the sensitive one taking offence at "banter".
you are probably correct but can you give me an example of it being used positively - Black then something good?
....pudding?
No English breakfast pie is complete without it. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Hungry now ๐
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wgm, no, I don't feel insulted being called "PC". I take it as recognition that I'm bothered to make the effort to use language in a way that doesn't insult or offend my fellow human being.
You didn't answer my question though, which was why you think that calling people names on a cycling forum wouldn't be racist?
I have tasted that and it was not good but very funny ๐
Oh and Black pool obviously
Black power, Junkyard? Positive to me anyhow.
I'd post this image but the bar above the post box is missing:
Junkyard - lazarus
you are probably correct but can you give me an example of it being used positively - Black then something good?
Are you really trying to infer eveything that is black is bad and therefore that context applies racially also?
Junkyard you seem to have a almost phsychopathetic need to start and argument, but thats pretty low IMO.
Black power, Junkyard? Positive to me anyhow.
MOBO awards?
I drive an A3 Black Edition but it's red and I'm white. ๐
Black tie?
JZ's Black Album
Black Sabbath (the rock group)
Black Wych beer
Black Rain (great film)
Being "in the black"
What about the flip side, phrases which use white to be positive?
"Whiter than white."
Black beauty?
What are we talking about btw? I read the op and a few posts yesterday-the thread seems to have drifted somewhat!
Like it'll be all
on the night...white
Saying that a white ball gets a bit of stick on a snooker table so it's all swings and roundabouts...
Diamond White, Foxy Browns musical alter ego, she' got a hot body and is Black.
There you go, fading from one t'other all in one sentence and in a positive light.
Ah some interesting counter points Black power i and MOBO as well - that was done for positive discrimination iirc by a white BMXer- andy Ruffell?
Kryton selective quoting and a psychopathic dig ๐
It was a question that is all . Do you really want to claim I am a racist towards black people and view them negatively ....respectfully get a grip
FWIW you would infer i would imply and your inference is wrong
Ok i am happy to accept that the term black is not always used in a negative way - no point debating if you wont admit you were wrong ..fair point all. It was never a point about race and was not meant to cause offence
Junkyard I'm asking you that is all. In the two threads I've encountered you in 48 hours you've appeared to want to merely start / enjoy an argument. Why you'd want to is beyond me, peace to all and all that.
My inference is wrong? Good, that's pleasing to hear, which of course proves you wrote the statement to be deliberately antagognistic toward the other posters. Again, why bother?
Not really clear of your motives TBH.
Junkyard - lazarus
Ah some interesting counter points Black power i and MOBO as well - that was done for positive discrimination iirc by a white BMXer- andy Ruffell?
Who is being selective now eh?
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanya_King - WITH Andy Ruffell.
The black in snukker is worth the most points. But, then again, it could be argued that snukker is a racialistical game anyway.
@whitegoodman, that comment about Ameruca being somewhere "we sent the Irish to breed" is the proper language of an unenlightened Neanderthal shithead. That you didn't get a short ban for it says a lot about the tolerance of the moderators here. Sometimes it's best not to ban folk for a while because, like many before you, they'll continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
It's kinda sad that every few months we have to go through explaining to the unenlightened what's racist and what's not tbh. Seems to be the same people over and over. But hey, people are like pistachios.
Black pudding is foul stuff, then again white pudding is pretty miserable stuff too.
Whoever invented lawn bowls MUST have been a rampaging racist too, all them black bowls bullying the white jack, sheeesh.
Bang outta order.
But hey, people are like pistachios.
Slightly salty but very moreish?
The black in snukker is worth the most points.
But its always the white ball that puts it away. Racist through to it's dirty rotten core, that game is
Edit: read the whole post before answering, doofus!
But hey, people are like pistachios
I have to get in quickly before the wife finishes them all off?
But its always the white ball that puts it away. Racist through to it's dirty rotten core,that game
Oh! Well (re)spotted!!
What about the flip side, phrases which use white to be positive?
Carte blanche?
White Power?
White dog poo?
edlong - Member
wgm, no, I don't feel insulted being called "PC". I take it as recognition that I'm bothered to make the effort to use language in a way that doesn't insult or offend my fellow human being.You didn't answer my question though, which was why you think that calling people names on a cycling forum wouldn't be racist?
Well that's good news, so me calling you PC doesn't upset you, neither is it racist, which answers your second question in that it depends what you call them doesn't it, call me a Roadie and I'll be upset.
I've also had another think whilst away at lunch and decided Cougar does indeed owe me a bike now, that deleted witticism which I have used on a couple of other forums with no ill effect due to it's obvious jocular intent, was deleted due to Political Correctness of the type that first elicited this thread.
My inference is wrong? Good, that's pleasing to hear, which of course proves you wrote the statement to be deliberately antagognistic toward the other posters. Again, why bother?
Why not gooogle non sequitor ๐ are you just trying to get a reaction as you are saying some pretty daft stuff ๐
Not really clear of your motives TBH.
well why do you keep giving reasons ? Psychopathic . delibeartedly antagonistic etc
Junkyard - lazarus
Ah some interesting counter points Black power i and MOBO as well - that was done for positive discrimination iirc by a white BMXer- andy Ruffell?
Who is being selective now eh?See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanya_King - WITH Andy Ruffell.
that is not selective quoting it is just being incorrect see the IIRC bit but thanks for the clarification.
Why are you doing this - really we debate stuff on a forum you said something foolish on another thread we debated and now we must do this every thread
Get over it please I have not posted up the thread which i would if I was being antagonistic
LOL @ Junkyards attempted reversal of blame.
Mate, others were pointing accusingly at you, I'm merely pointing out your recent history of argumentative content. I'm asking you why you are being so.
Re the recent MOBO post - if you are so adament in your defense, why not take the the 2 minutes it took me to discover who the actual founder of the MOBO's was, instead of using "IIRC" as your sole defence when trying to show that your attempt at demonstrating white supremacy at a black orientated event is called into question? You clearly have a 'puter at your fingertips.......
Clear enough?
deadlydarcy - Member
The black in snukker is worth the most points. But, then again, it could be argued that snukker is a racialistical game anyway.@whitegoodman, that comment about Ameruca being somewhere "we sent the Irish to breed" is the proper language of an unenlightened Neanderthal shithead. That you didn't get a short ban for it says a lot about the tolerance of the moderators here. Sometimes it's best not to ban folk for a while because, like many before you, they'll continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
So, I'm trying to understand why you would find that anything other than what it was, a joke, used often enough, and in context with what I believe was a thread with a fairly anti religious sentiment from memory, so just so I know and don't offend your sensibilities in future (I'm still fairly new here) exactly what bit offended you, the Religious Nutcases, or the Irish bit? Are you an American? I've used that joke to lots of them to their faces only to be greeted by healthy laughter. So why does it upset you, sufficient that you would be so insulting to someone you've never met and would be extremely unlikely to do to my face? It's easy keyboard bravado, isn't it?
Ever heard the one about the convicts and Australia?
unenlightened Neanderthal shithead.
That's well below "racist" on my list of insults, but is less funny and includes more potty language than the dig at Americans that provoked it. I always assumed septics were fair game in the same way as France is fair game for CNBC reporters.
wgm
I'm with you now. Calling me "PC" wouldn't offend or be racist (how could it be?), however if you called me "pikey", "****" or "****", on a cycling forum or anywhere else, then it would be. So, in summary calling people names on a cycling forum IS racist, if the names that you are calling someone are racist ones. But that's not what we started off disagreeing about, was it? I think the disagreement is about whether "pikey" is racist. I maintain that it is.
I'm still fairly new here
Since 15/5/12 by my reckoning.
The socks are very comfy.
edlong - Member
wgmI'm with you now. Calling me "PC" wouldn't offend or be racist (how could it be?), however if you called me "pikey", "****" or "****", on a cycling forum or anywhere else, then it would be. So, in summary calling people names on a cycling forum IS racist, if the names that you are calling someone are racist ones. But that's not what we started off disagreeing about, was it? I think the disagreement is about whether "pikey" is racist. I maintain that it is.
OK yes on this we agree and it is in my view the whole nub of this thread, which come to think about jolly old argumentative Junkyard diverted down this path with the whole 'pikey' discussion. You know my opinion I do however accept your point and that you have the backing of the law, something until now I was unaware of, wrong in my view for all the points I made.
Perhaps you should be tasked with producing the official list of banned words and insults, jokes like my Religious Nutcases and Irish and then the thread be made a sticky for all the world to see, then we won't have to live in constant fear of the humiliation of the ban hammer.
Cougar - Moderator
I'm still fairly new here
Since 15/5/12 by my reckoning.
Yes just about a year, but didn't post much to start with..
Is it ready yet?
Since 15/5/12 by my reckoning.
But "sleeping" until main ID was banned.
nealglover - Member
Since 15/5/12 by my reckoning.
But "sleeping" until main ID was banned.
People keep saying that, I do post lots on other forums, but not so much here until now, so who is/was it you think I am/was, TJ or whoever 'Fred' was?
If one is [temp] banned - how does anyone else know?
There's no humiliation, just cooling off. I was, ahem, under the influence when I posted the thread that got me banned.
People keep saying that, I do post lots on other forums, but not so much here until now, so who is/was it you think I am/was, TJ or whoever 'Fred' was?
Thought you were new here ?
They've both been banned for ages so you wouldn't know either of them.
But you know TJ and pretend not to know Fred.
Mmmmm ?? Not too sure about that.
But "sleeping" until main ID was banned.
It's not banned, is the interesting thing. Well, not yet. *flexes*

