paying them $25bn doesnt smell like victory.......
https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mmkhdgeuqs2n
All Trump will do is Ctrl + Z. Back to Obama's deal.
I'll be amazed if he achieves a deal as good as they've a) had and b) were on course for earlier this year.
Not to mention the death, destruction and cost (in all senses).
Anyway, it was all sorted in April so I'm a bit confused by his need for a deal 🤔
Donald Trump has again said that the US has “total control over the strait of Hormuz” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/23/trump-claims-us-has-total-control-over-strait-of-hormuz-as-iran-seizes-two-container-ships
All Trump will do is Ctrl + Z. Back to Obama's deal.
That ship sailed a long time ago. That’s why this is stalemate. Trump knows he has to get a deal that’s ‘better’ than Obama’s, to sell as a ‘win’ to his half-witted MAGA base, but there’s not a cat in hells chance that Iran will agree to that.
And why should they? When they negotiated that deal with Obama (which took years!) they didn’t know just how effectively they could hold the entire world to Ransom. They know now, and so does everybody else. They’re the ones in complete control of this situation now and can issue their demands accordingly
Trumps fragile, toddler-like ego just can’t cope with the truism that the reason we’re all in this boat is because he’s a ****ing moron! It’s really that simple.
just how effectively they could hold the entire world to Ransom. They know now, and so does everybody else.
This.
Similarly as they knew, and the world now knows/reminded, they are not cowed. Just as Saddam found out when he attacked with his huge, western armed, militiary machine against a rundown Iranian army.
Similarly as they knew, and the world now knows/reminded, they are not cowed. Just as Saddam found out when he attacked with his huge, western armed, militiary machine against a rundown Iranian army.
Surprisingly, Iran was the western-armed military machine, while Iraq was Soviet and Chinese-armed with a soupçon of French kit. Their backers were the other way around though, following the fall of the Shah in 1979, so I take your point 😊
(EDIT for clarification) Russia stayed largely neutral throughout, eventually choosing Iraq in late 1982
Iran blockaded Iraq using its UK-built frigates and hit Iraq's Air Force with F4 Phantoms and F14 Tomcats equipped with Phoenix, Sparrow and Sidewinder missiles
^ Apologies, you're correct the Iranians had western military equipment left from the Shah's time. Where Iraq had traditionally been supported by the USSR.
Point I was trying to make was that the larger and very well equipped Iraqi army quickly took a large chunk of Iranian territory. Over time the Iranians pushed them back out whilst having limited access to arms. In contrast Iraq's army was able to access arms from numerous sources, not least the West. In addition the Iranian army was in chaos after the '79 revolution, whereas the Iraqi army was considered well organised and very well armed.
Trumps fragile, toddler-like ego just can’t cope with the truism that the reason we’re all in this boat is because he’s a ****ing moron! It’s really that simple.
I see trump has been forced to claim he wants negotiations to go slower because Iran are dictating the pace not trump
He can want and ask for whatever he wants, but he isn’t going to get any of it.
I wonder if anyone around him would see this as an ideal opportunity to quote back at him his own words to Zelensky in his Oval Office ambush…
”you don’t have any cards”
And the US bombing starts again !
And the US bombing starts again !
It isn't a proper campaign, which is what the US will avoid at all costs despite the rhetoric from the WH.
They've run weapon stocks down and the clock is ticking down to the mid-terms.
The US would argue that strikes on the boats and port city of Bandar Abbas fall within the IMO Council and UN Security Council Resolutions from March and therefore is self defence of the US or others
peace deal coming any minute now....
https://bsky.app/profile/azintel.bsky.social/post/3mn75mfvm422y
The Americans are very keen to keep quiet the extent of damage their basses have seen,
us troops were injured last week & 2$30m reaper drones hit, and a 3rd shot down
https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mn2bzw7wus2m
some interesting analysis here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l2yl7r8r2o
meanwhile Israel taking over more of Lebanon ....
Any bombing by the Americans is entirely performative, to make it look like they’re doing something. They’ve now alienated any formerly friendly regimes in the area and the Iranians are sat with Strait of Hormuz still closed, literally laughing their tits off at just how unbelievably stupid Trump and Hegseth are.
The hawks in Washington are demanding concessions from Iran which they’ve absolutely no chance of getting, meanwhile every country on the planet, other than Israel, is telling them to bring this utterly disastrous shitshow to an end, and fast!
So Trump, his impotent idiocy exposed for the whole world to see, is desperately seeking to kick the can down the road to postpone the inevitable moment where he caves in to Iran and gives them everything they demand
What a complete buffoon!
I thought trump said they had won and Iran had no military left. The Iranians must have the best re supply process in the world to have anything to still bomb if trump isn’t lying
I thought trump said they had won and Iran had no military left. The Iranians must have the best re supply process in the world to have anything to still bomb if trump isn’t lying
Now where have I seen that before...
if trump isn’t lying
Yet, despite a mountain of evidence that Trump says very little that isn`t a blatant lie, he is able to carry on.
As dumb as Trump is, it demonstrates that it was only a very flimsy facade of intelligence and respectability the USA ever had.
The Americans are very keen to keep quiet the extent of damage their basses have seen,
Colour me surprised, I think the leadership of the countries where those bases are located are also very keen for it to stop, and might be looking at alternatives - now that it's become very clear indeed that the US cannot seem to provide the protection those bases promised .
It’s now glaringly obvious to everyone that for all their bases in the region, there’s only one country that all that military hardware is there to protect.
I’m sure plenty of those regional powers are presently reappraising the benefits to them of having US forces stationed on their territory, or whether they’re now just a liability as their presence just makes them potential targets
As Trump visibly deteriorates Netnyahu & Iranians are both just ognoring him completely
Houthis now saying they will block shipping in the red sea
****
https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3mnrh6cv5ek2g
It looks like one side is definitely not going to miss this opportunity to escalate the war to land grab.
Well, the longer the war continues then more we will witness the collapse of businesses in the West due to high energy cost.
donalds war of stupidity continues
This can't go on for another 2+ years with trump in the hot seat, Its time for an intervention.......a few vitamin pills in his tea would help him out but I figure we'd be left with vance/hesgeth etc so perhaps we need a hotline to the whitehouse pharmacist..........
CNN has pointed out that it's now the 38th time that the senile old giffer has stated that a negotiated settlement with Iran is in the bag and merely hours away. In reality it now looks even further away than it has ever done.
There's obviously nobody within the clueless bunch of half-wits that constitute this administration that has the first idea how to resolve this war they needlessly started. The clock is now ticking to everything really hitting the fan, when the oil reserves run out. Thats when the fun and games really start
There's obviously nobody within the clueless bunch of half-wits that constitute this administration that has the first idea how to resolve this war they needlessly started.
It really is reminiscent of Ukraine
Putin's plan: Quick decapitation strike into Kiev at which point people either stay quiet or actively support the invading force.
Iran: Quick decapitation strike (which, to be fair, went to plan unlike Putin's plan) at which point the government flounders whilst the people rise up without any need for an invasion.
Again reminiscent of Ukraine I can see how bad intelligence could lead to this with intelligence being filtered via people with an interest in providing the best possible picture.
Still at least the Iranian military has been completely wiped out.
The clock is now ticking to everything really hitting the fan, when the oil reserves run out. Thats when the fun and games really start
I read the other day that all sorts of industrial feedstuffs are already running low - sulphuric acid and other goodies needed for the chemical industry. The stuff will REALLY hit the fan if water starts running out as a result of desalination plants being hit.
so the details leaking of the Iran peace deal, look very much like a complete capitulation by America
Iran isnt allowed to develop nukes (just like they were supposed to before)
All sanctions will be lifted - this is huge
$300bn!!! reconstruction fund!!! paid for by gulf states and US
All global assets unfrozen
Iran gets to permanently charge a toll on Hormuz....
This is madness, cant wait to see how Trump spins this is a 'victory'
CIA reckons most of their drone & missile production is intact amd already started up again (thanks russia & China) and most underground facilities now reopened - US/Israeli bombing failed
they killed the old leadership and swapped it for a much younger one
the irony is that before the war sanctions were working, theyd almost brought the regime down once- despite brutal represion.
Assad was gone, Hamas gone, now the grievance in what's left of Gaza and Lebanon will recruit for Hezbollah
And they now know that their drones can hold the whole world to ransom and hamstring the exports of their gulf neighbours....
its been obvious it would end badly for a while but its galliing to see just have w Iran have outmanoeuvred the US
so the details leaking of the Iran peace deal, look very much like a complete capitulation by America...
...its been obvious it would end badly for a while but its galliing to see just have w Iran have outmanoeuvred the US
You're missing the point. According to SecWar,
"The huge difference is, we did this from a position of strength. President Trump led with military might" CBS News - Face the Nation
$300bn!!! reconstruction fund!!! paid for by gulf states and US
All global assets unfrozen
Iran gets to permanently charge a toll on Hormuz....
Where are you seeing these leaks? All I'm seeing is an absence of any details, almost like it was a load of BS...
I've no doubt that whatever 'deal' that has been struck will represent total defeat for the US. All Iran had to do was wait until strategic reserves ran down to a critical level.
There's this on cnn
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/16/politics/iran-agreement-text-trump
Points very vague wording "aimed at providing Iran the ability to sell it politically to their internal audience. "
More like it allows Trump to spin, lie and sell to his audience as the bestest deal ever.
The sticking point is getting Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.
Back channel commitments, what a load of bollocks. As we used to say about verbal instructions at work,
Not worth the paper they're not written on.
This is the leak thats getting all the Iran hawks upset
thread on Bloombergs article on the deal
https://bsky.app/profile/bgrueskin.bsky.social/post/3mogy7a7nu22g
Just wait till Trump finds out about the deal he's negotiated...
Seems it amounts to impotently procrastinating for ages, then caving in and giving the other party everything they demanded and then some.
How much is Trump making out of this deal?
That $300 billion reconstruction fund will be used for the Mar-a-Tehran golf course complex and other similar projects
senility is painful to watch
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3moiowifcz32q
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3moipaotv4623
I dont think hes quite grasped how bad the backlash from the maga Iran hawks will be on the terms of the deal- I can see Hegseth being fired before long
I dont think hes quite grasped how bad the backlash from the maga Iran hawks will be on the terms of the deal- I can see Hegseth being fired before long
Indeed. Promise of no more wars, broken. Suggestions of best deal, false. Cost to USA, huge. I think this could really be a challenge to him, and he won't have the ability to defend.
I likely missed the obvious. But where is the $300 billion fund coming from? apparently the USA won`t be putting in a cent ... you can guarantee the USA will want the USA to get all the contracts for the $300 billion ... but which countries will be coerced into giving the $300 billion??
but which countries will be coerced into giving the $300 billion??
Gulf states, presumably ? Such good value, American friendship 🙂
so the leak was accurate
this is a huge victory for Iran!
so the leak was accurate
this is a huge victory for Iran!
I likely missed the obvious. But where is the $300 billion fund coming from? apparently the USA won`t be putting in a cent ... you can guarantee the USA will want the USA to get all the contracts for the $300 billion ... but which countries will be coerced into giving the $300 billion??
I imagine its from the same mythical pot of gold that was also promised for Gaza reconstruction.
Comprehensive ripping apart of the deal...
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/17/politics/how-to-read-us-iran-agreement-mcgurk-analysis
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/17/politics/analysis-trump-iran-deal
(Edit for the right link)
