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Posted by: pondo

It's entirely legal for the US to sink Iranian warships thousands of miles from any conflict zone

The RN attacked the French Navy at Mers el Kebir, and they were allies, but similarly parked somewhere other than France and were talking no part in the conflict. 

Posted by: pondo

It's only legal for the US sub to not offer assistance if doing so would put it in danger

I don't think any sub in any conflict has ever stopped to pick up survivors from the targets they hit, The Nazis didn't, we didn't (including the Belgrano), the US didn't the Japanes didn't. 

 

There's a frankly terrifying insta going around of a reporter telling everyone that he's  seemingly able to just phone Trump directly. In this video he (the reporter) describes Trump as saying that he thinks he's the GOAT, and that "Everyone is saying it". Literally a Mad King. I think whatever strategy or outcome you think Trump is angling for? No this is just an old demented man losing his marbles who just happens to be able to direct the largest armed forces on the planet. There's nothing. 

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 10:15 am
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No this is just an old demented man losing his marbles who just happens to be able to direct the largest armed forces on the planet

its a good job that the Secretary of defense War is the kind of objective, sober, strategic leader youd want to be leading the US military as a ground war looks increasingly likely to be the direction of travel ..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/08/pete-hegseth-pentagon-trump-iran


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 11:27 am
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Posted by: kimbers

Assuming Trump does want regime change (and he didn't change his tiny mind by Tuesday) that means troops, probably lots of troops and he'll want us involved in that too. 

No, he's already told us that we aren't needed, which is rich from the nation that turned up late to two world wars,

"We don't need people that join Wars after we've already won!"


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 11:36 am
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Pretty sure everyone can see Trump is totally unhinged. But the scarier bit is that there are people around him enabling all this.

Blair is part of Trumps Bored of Peace racket. He is no doubt on a financial incentive to get UK involved in the war to become even more indebted and dependant on the USA/Trump. 

When this Trump madness is over I hope we see a focus on the elites and the misery they cause for their own benefit. I hope Mark Blyth phrase about the Hamptons not being a defensible position proves true, and they face what they are tying to force onto those they see below them.

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 11:43 am
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When looking for calm, rational, thoughtful and well-respected opinions about conflict in the Middle East, one name must surely be at the top of everyone’s list…

Tony Blair 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 12:56 pm
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Im not even sure i get bombing Iranian fuel depots as a tactic (unless a ground invasion is coming soon)

but bombing desalination plants is beyond insane amd looks like Iran have already replied in kind bombing one in Bahrain 

https://bsky.app/profile/ironeconomist.bsky.social/post/3mgjxdl6udc2i

 

are these strikes being decided by AI, im sure the girls school one was an accident but it adds another level of wtf to everything if it was selected by AI

meanwhile....

 

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3mgix5syjz52c

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 1:32 pm
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Posted by: kimbers

but bombing desalination plants is beyond insane amd looks like Iran have already replied in kind bombing one in Bahrain 

 

Just the israeli genocidial regime doing what it does best after experience of destroying the water distribution plants in Gaza 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 1:59 pm
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but bombing desalination plants is beyond insane

Just look at the people taking the decisions. Do you see much evidence of sanity anywhere?


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 3:32 pm
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Posted by: e-machine

Blair is part of Trumps Bored of Peace racket. He is no doubt on a financial incentive to get UK involved in the war

Blair has had his nose up the Sauds' and Aliyevs' arseholes for the last 20 years. He's got more money than Fort Knox. And you don't need to pay him to get on board with mental Middle Eastern schemes, he'd do it for free because he's chosen by destiny/God.

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 3:35 pm
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The desalination plants are something of a no-no to target considering how crucial, and easy to put out of action they are for all gulf/Arab countries. But I guess Israel will be ok because they have the USA etc to ensure they get enough .. not sure how other countries there would manage though.

Trump saying Iran bombed that girls school just sums him up. I previously regarded him as just an ignorant arrogant old fool - but feel he is a lot more evil than first thought. 

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 3:39 pm
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Trump saying Iran bombed that girls school just sums him up. I previously regarded him as just an ignorant arrogant old fool - but feel he is a lot more evil than first thought.

I think he's just a mad sociopath like Boris Johnson, who I note has also been a vocal supporter of the Orange Monkey this week. They lie as easily as they breath and once they've shat the latest lie out of their cavernous gobs, they then expect that load of old bollocks to be taken as the truth by everyone, despite all evidence to the contrary


 
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Posted by: kimbers

Im not even sure i get bombing Iranian fuel depots as a tactic (unless a ground invasion is coming soon)

It's exactly what Ukraine has been doing to Russia. It disrupts the military's supply chain and cuts off a source of foreign exchange and influence that could prolong the war.

 


 
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Posted by: binners

. They lie as easily as they breath and once they've shat the latest lie out of their cavernous gobs, they then expect that load of old bollocks to be taken as the truth by everyone, despite all evidence to the contrary

I can't remember who it was, but someone well versed on the matter had a good explanation for this .

When you hear Trump spouting what is clearly and obviously to almost everyone complete nonsense you think to yourself 'surely no one believes this BS?'

And you're right, hardly anyone does. The point of it is not to make you believe it, they know you won't. The point is to make you doubt everything, question everything, especially things which actually are true. Once we can't tell fact from fiction any more everything just becomes tribal and that's what they want


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 5:03 pm
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Saw an interesting piece today that Vance has been off grid/under the radar this week, while Hegseth and Rubio have been making the headlines.

One argument is that he is against these wars that they weren't going to start, so is out of the loop/favour.

I do wonder if he's waiting for Trump to be removed via the 25th amendment for being batshit crazy, and tryimg to create plausible deniability


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 6:14 pm
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Posted by: kimbers

but bombing desalination plants is beyond insane

The only reference to this I can find is Iran apparently bombing a desalination plant in Bahrain, can some-one point me at the US doing this?


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 6:27 pm
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From euronews: the claim of a US attack on an Iranian desalination plant on the Isle of Qeshm by the Iranian foreign minister is reported widely in French media. I can't find anything in English due to my browser settings but it must be out there somewhere.

"Plus tôt dimanche, le ministre iranien des Affaires étrangères, Abbas Araghchi, a déclaré qu'une frappe aérienne américaine avait endommagé une usine de dessalement iranienne sur l'île de Qeshm, avertissant qu'en agissant ainsi, « ce sont les États-Unis qui ont créé ce précédent, et non l'Iran ». Ces infrastructures sont essentielles pour l'approvisionnement en eau potable dans les déserts arides du Golfe."


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 6:36 pm
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Posted by: andrewh

The point of it is not to make you believe it, they know you won't. The point is to make you doubt everything, question everything, especially things which actually are true. Once we can't tell fact from fiction any more everything just becomes tribal and that's what they want

Not sure you explained that correctly because as you state, if you and almost everyone else knows its untrue, and they aren`t trying to make you believe it is true, then your going to continue knowing its not true.

I think its a case of Trump following his role model, Adolf Hitler, and adhering to his big lie technique - by repeating a lie enough times it becomes the truth in those that want to believe it.

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 6:48 pm
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I’m just waiting for Trump to pull out of NATO in a moment of pique.


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 7:13 pm
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Thanks for digging that out @Edukator appreciate it, seems both the US and Iranians are accusing each other of this sort of atrocity


 
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Not sure you explained that correctly because as you state, if you and almost everyone else knows its untrue, and they aren`t trying to make you believe it is true, then your going to continue knowing its not true.

Maybe I didn't. It's not to get you to believe the lie, because most won't. It's to make you doubt the truth, you get into a mindset of disbelieving everything all the time and the truth gets drowned out in all the noise. Whoever it was I quoting explained it much better than me. 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 7:40 pm
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Thanks for digging that out @Edukator appreciate it, seems both the US and Iranians are accusing each other of this sort of atrocity

 

New York Times have both reported here https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/08/world/middleeast/desalination-plants-iran-bahrain.html

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 7:55 pm
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Posted by: e-machine

Not sure you explained that correctly because as you state, if you and almost everyone else knows its untrue, and they aren`t trying to make you believe it is true, then your going to continue knowing its not true.

Maybe I didn't. It's not to get you to believe the lie, because most won't. It's to make you doubt the truth, you get into a mindset of disbelieving everything all the time and the truth gets drowned out in all the noise. Whoever it was I quoting explained it much better than me. 

 

Sounds like the "Firehose of falsehood"

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 7:59 pm
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only America has Tomahawks in the region 

https://bsky.app/profile/bellingcat.com/post/3mgku3c37uk2k


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 8:08 pm
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A long but interesting read

https://substack.com/home/post/p-190313280


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 9:32 pm
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^ not so long and interesting

He has entered America into a war, the consequences of which he any of us cannot possibly comprehend

 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 10:05 pm
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great read stu, depressing as hell, it makes the calls by the rw press, Farage, Badenoch etc to get involved look more insane than ever

I can't see Iran ending as anything other than a complete disaster 

I do wonder how Trump's fans will take it- i know at least 2 people who genuinely think hes the saviour of humanity 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 10:07 pm
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it's a shame we can't drag the U.S. and park it next to Iran, the trouble with the U.S. is they have never suffered the consequences of bombs and missiles falling on their country 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 10:30 pm
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Trump stating to Starmer that this is a war he’s already ‘won’ has the inevitable air of this about it… 

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Aaaaaaah…. remember those heady days when we all thought it couldn’t possibly get any worse than Dubya? 


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 10:31 pm
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 US naval in Bahrain has been hit again, maybe a fuel tank from the looks of it? 

https://bsky.app/profile/osintradar.bsky.social/post/3mglc2kpkk224

A large number of US personnel deaths might change trumps arithmetic, initially he'd downplay it , then get all solemn after a backlash, then blame Hegseth, who will be even more insane , until he gets fired and in turn kicks off

 

Iran is not randomly doing this they are deliberately targeting the incredibly expensive missile warning systems across the middle east

https://www.newser.com/story/385001/irans-attack-strategy-military-communication-sites.html


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 10:50 pm
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more on an the Bahrain explosion 

https://bsky.app/profile/antizionistjew.bsky.social/post/3mgldmjfvwd2e


 
Posted : 08/03/2026 11:07 pm
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Posted by: binners

Trump saying Iran bombed that girls school just sums him up. I previously regarded him as just an ignorant arrogant old fool - but feel he is a lot more evil than first thought.

I think he's just a mad sociopath like Boris Johnson, who I note has also been a vocal supporter of the Orange Monkey this week. They lie as easily as they breath and once they've shat the latest lie out of their cavernous gobs, they then expect that load of old bollocks to be taken as the truth by everyone, despite all evidence to the contrary

IMHO They just don’t care, they’ve been doing very well all thru their lives by doing this.

They just carry on as no-one ever holds them to account And it seems there are a lot of people who like them so much that they ‘believe’ in them and don’t care when reality proves otherwise.

It’s all down to them being a cult of personality, both are pretty much media/social media savvy and tv aware (these things being the ultimate creator/crafter of alternative reality) as opposed to being actual thinking/working  politicians/human beings.

Your literally going to struggle if you confront/debate their supporters with reality as that isn’t their reality,they’ve gone too deep down the rabbit hole.

I do think that the latest war will probably wake some of them up that they actually see the king is in his altogether.

 

 


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 10:11 am
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it's a shame we can't drag the U.S. and park it next to Iran, the trouble with the U.S. is they have never suffered the consequences of bombs and missiles falling on their country 

they sort of did in September 2001.  They of course won’t make the connection between their foreign policy approaches and terrorism.  They must feel very confident in their homeland security to have started this because it feels like one day someone will be seeking vengance.  

 


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 10:18 am
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What kind of psychopath would destroy a desalination plant? Oh yes …

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250125-israel-destroys-only-water-desalination-plant-in-northern-gaza/


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 10:50 am
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$100 barrel smashed now. Can only see it going one way.


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 10:54 am
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Posted by: poly

because it feels like one day someone will be seeking vengance.

I think its a certainty. When you have Trump and his like minded idiot Hegseth spouting no more rules of engagement or woke rules to adhere to; when they bomb a girls school and subject millions in Tehran to a toxic hell, then what is going to stop some as mad person on the Iranian side from doing comparable atrocities.

I only hope that the retribution is sought in the USA and Israel - but thats looking very unlikely given how the UK are slifing towards further involvement.


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 10:58 am
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Posted by: DrJ

What kind of psychopath would destroy a desalination plant? Oh yes …

Iranians reportedly targeting the same sort of infrastructure in Bahrain. The stuff of war crimes. 


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 11:04 am
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When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?


 
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When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?

Indeed.

Ukraine has faced the same dilemma for the past 4 years.

 


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 11:34 am
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When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?

Hesgeth has already made it plain that he thinks ROE are for losers. 


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 11:41 am
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Peter Obourne goes after the war mongers crying out for our involvement 

 


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 4:54 pm
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I need to curtail my doomscrolling on this now, much like COVID, it's easy to get way too stressed about it.


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 5:24 pm
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Theres absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it, so its really not worth the worry.

He's an absolute maniac, probably senile, armed to the teeth and surrounded by evangelical christian crusader loons, he's being led around by the nose by a genocidal war criminal and he's decided to go to war against a regime of fundamentalist headbangers who are also armed to the teeth and dream of martyrdom.

I can't think of many situations where the sane and calm voices of reason could have less influence. There are none of those in any positions of power here, thats for sure. So why worry?

Just let them get on with it and maybe nip out on your bike and finish at the pub. Thats what I tend to do. 😀

All we can hope for is that his diet catches up with him and he does an Elvis. It can't be long before he's found, double cheeseburger in hand, unresponsive on a gold plated tiolet

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Posted : 09/03/2026 5:57 pm
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When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?

You don't stoop to their level 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5oW9fzEOVSI&pp=ygUtQnJpdGlzaCBzbGxkaWVycyB0YWtlIGdlcm1hbiBwb3dzIHRvIHRoZSBwdWIg


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 6:52 pm
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^ AI Slop channel


 
Posted : 09/03/2026 6:59 pm
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I know I dont have to tell this to people here, who like myself are far traveled, and have met all creeds and colours and know the defining thing is People are People. Same hopes, same dreams

Andrewh's vid above is a good indication of who we are and what we truly stand for.

But there might be someone who isnt and maybe needs a bit of reinforcement, especially in these times of far right populism.


 
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