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Who else has one? What a pile of turd!
What's up with yours ?
I have one but cant use it atm as 3 in their wisdom sent me a faulty sim with it......
Mines ace.
I must have the death grip, keep dropping calls, fine on Bluetooth in the car 🙁
Who else has one? What a pile of turd!
[s]What exactly is the pro[/s] Oh what's the point......
I've got one and it's fine, you must just have big, spastic hands....
Mine's ace too. Have you tried holding it properly?
Have you tried using the free "bumpers" or any kind of case on it?
I have one, seems fine....? What's wrong with yours?
Mines great. It is turned on yeah?
Is it really so much better that the previous versions? My finger has been hovering over the buy it now button (contract) for an iphone 4 for a few days. But I've just been given a supposedly broken 3G with a smashed screen. A £12 new screen from ebay, a bit of a fiddle, a jailbreak and an unlock later and I've got a shiny 3G thats all happy again - £12 total cost to me.
But is the iphone 4 so much better that I could justify giving this one to my wife and getting a new one or should I just use this one myself on a £15pm sim only monthly rolling contract and save a few bob? Decisions, decisions.
I broke my 3G, hence the new one. It's not very broken tho, so the bits are on order and it'll shortly be my wifes...
I tried facetime out the other day, was quite good I thought, if nothing else there's certainly an 'adult' hotline market for it!
Galaxy s people thats what the kids are buying
I have a 3GS my Bro who is Mr anti mobiles bought a iPhone 4 he loves it, tried and yes very nice faster, lovely display. I can get it to drop the signal by holding it on the 'wrong' spot but I've had that on other phones too.
But is the iphone 4 so much better that I could justify giving this one to my wife and getting a new one or should I just use this one myself on a £15pm sim only monthly rolling contract and save a few bob? Decisions, decisions.
I bought a dead 3G (8Gb) on Ebay and fixed it - My first iPhone.
I'm currently on O2's iPhone SIM only £15 (12 month contract) and very happy.
I was very very very tempted to sell it for a profit and get the iPhone4, but when I dislocated my knee and landed on the phone I realised that I was much happier to have gouged/scratched a 2nd hand phone that a bling new one.
I'd love to have multitasking, but that would mean a 3GS or iPhone4.
For me, it comes down to pennies saved, once the initial want want want want fever has passed.
I've played with the iPhone4 in-store and they are nice, but maybe in a year or so.....
Drac - but would the difference between the two be worth circa £500 over two years to you?
8gb to 32gb would mean not farting about managing which music/podcasts/films were on it too I guess. The length of time this battery lasts on this one could wind me up too. Can you tell I'm trying to talkmyself into it!
Isaac - very wise words - I need to heed them!
Multitasking - if you upgrade the operating system to os4 then jailbreak it with redsn0w you get the option to have a 3g multitasking during the jailbreak. Does not seem too slow, but then again I've got nothing to compare it to.
Drac - but would the difference between the two be worth circa £500 over two years to you?
Hmmm! Lot of cash but the difference between the 3G and 4 is huge so yes if you can spare the case but still costly.
A work colleague's got one, along with an ipad and an iphone 3gs.
The iphone's 4 display goes white if you press on the upper half, and the ipad home button failed after 45 minutes of use, but apart from that they've been great!
OOO I've wanted an i phone since last November! Carphone muppet house kept lying about when my contract runs out and turns out it was 8th July! so really want an i phone 4 and Tessco is sold out ..... I'll just keep waiting until they get some in (as Tesco is the cheapest way to get the i phone 4)! HOpefully not too long as my 7 year old Samsung annoying me now and I want to join the hordes or sheep 😉
but would the difference between the two be worth circa £500 over two years to you?
Not scientific by any means, but gives you a general idea.
Munge chgo check out the galaxy s
Its got a 4" hd screen, its way better than the iphone 4imho
Blimey that's a huge difference Jamie, didn't realise it was that much.
I've had Samsungs on the past, great phones good awful interfaces.
Got a judasphone4 and it really is very good, and I hate apple!
TimDrayton so didn't know about the Samsung Galaxy s .. looks quite nice! mmm not sure now though .. especially since I know a lot of folk on here go on about HTC various ones!
The iPhone 4's screen is faultless, having the extra memory, both RAM and storage means it doesn't hang up and stop displaying photos after long 'net sessions, the GPS is much faster at acquiring satellite lock-on, and is more accurate. Viewranger is fantastic with the hi-res screen, the camera is lovely and really easy to use. Oh, and mine doesn't drop calls, although, to be fair I do have a case to protect the glass back and the sides from chipping. Great phone and pocket computer, I loved my 3G, but the 4 is a whole new ball-game.
OOOO come on Tesco get some more in stock! I WANT ONE .............. 😉
Isn't tesco 3 so coverage is a bit poop?
O2 is the way to go surely?
Oh, and the Orange Wednesdays app works nicely on O2 as well.
Last time I looked vodafone were cheaper than o2 might be wrong though.
I'm thinking three - [url= http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/iphone-4-prices-best-deals-compared-49305950/ ]comparisons[/url]
I rarely go anywhere near big cities and Three's 3g coverage seems a little better in the sticks - or at least as good as Orange....
i love mine , no probs here , can it be jail broke yet ????
Love my 4G, the screen quality just blows you away. Gave my 3GS to my GF but will probably get her a 4G as well.
Best phone I've owned by miles.
scraprider - Member
i love mine , no probs here , can it be jail broke yet ????
Just been released an hour ago, Confirmed working on my 3GS running iOS 4.0. Some have had issues with losing MMS and Facetime so hold back if unsure, see FAQ link.
Browse to the following link via your iPhone:
FAQ: http://claytonbraasch.blogspot.com/2010/08/faq-on-new-jailbreakme-20.html
Having had Android and WinMo devices for the last 3 years, I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my shiny new iPhone 4 in the next few hours.
It probably helps that I've recently bought a MBP and have started using this to manage all my personal "stuff" (which can sync with my iPhone). That, and the strength of the App Store has done it for me.
Nope Tesco is on O2 so exactly what I'm on now. And nope Tesco is cheaper as it's on a 12 month contract and can drop onto SIM only so over 18 months or 24 it works out way cheaper.
I did the maths and three works out a lot cheaper than Tesco assuming you are planning on using the phone for at least 2 years:-
Assume Iphone4 32Gb
Tesco -> £429 purchase + 12 X £20 for initial contract + 12 X £15 cheapest iphone sim only contract for remaining 12months = £849
Three -> £189 purchase + 24 X £30 for 24 month contract = £769 - £64 if you buy contract by accessing site through quido co = £705.
It's the same for the 16gb version too. You are tied to a longer contract which could be bad news if you destroy your phone in the first few months, but you don't need to find a big lump of cash at the beginning either.
Its a moot point for me as around the area I live O2's 3g service is so poor most original iphoners struggled to justify the ownership so the tesco offering using O2 is not worth using.
Its a mute point for me
Pardon..? 😉
I've done a bit of comparison between my 3GS and my sis's 4
The biggest differences are the screen - the 4's screen really is much sharper - to the point that you can't really see the pixels. Of course that doesn't really affect the experience that much but it is very nice. Second, the camera is better though again, not so much that I'd really change for that alone, especially as my pics are snaps rather than photos (if you get what I mean) though the 'flash' is useful.
So at the moment, I don't see any reason to upgrade. We'll see what the 5 is like next year maybe but I reckon that with OS4.0 now doing multitasking on the 3GS that covers the only major issue I had with it (other than battery life I guess).
the jump from 3G to 4 was huge but I doubt I'd have upgraded if I had the 3GS.
it'll be the same when the 5 comes out, it wont be worth me upgrading from the 4 so I'll wait until the 6.
GrahamS - MemberIts a mute point for me
Pardon..?
You see, I really need the new one as I can hardly see what I'm typing!
Actually - more doom and gloom - I installed an app called btstack gps through cydia (jailbreak app)last night so I can now use an external bluetooth gps with the 3g rather than the battery hungry internal one. Used alongside memory map with the iphone in flight mode (who wants a call when you are riding) and the external GPS taking the battery strain I managed a 2hr ride with the phone tracking my every move in sleep mode whilst in my pocket getting it out every now and again to check the route and used less the 10% of the battery capacity. Reasons to spend more running out fast 😀
Pardon..?
Don't be such a damp squid.
Mmm that's quite impressive.
I use the MotionX GPS app which can still record a route while in the background or in standby. Battery life is considerably better than having it in the foreground with the screen on, but probably not that good.
Don't be such a damp squid.
About what? Can you be more pacific? 😉
About what? Can you be more pacific?
Well I would be, but it's my coffee break. Time for an expresso I feel.
IGMC.
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I use mine all the time but I wouldnt put it on a pedal stool like some
I've got a 3GS and the wife has a 4, the difference between them is no way enough to warrant an upgrade.
Still pees me off that she's got a better phone though and only has an Estee Lauder makeup app on it! 🙂
There's an Estee Lauder app! Dammit, how could I have missed that! off to the app store now 🙂
[i]a pedal stool[/i]
is that like rocking horse poo?
pedal stool
😆
It's like a mute point 🙂
I discovered an unexpected bonus on the 4 vs. the 3 - the LED flash makes a passable torch for stumbling home from the pub. Far better than the screen torch that the app used on my old 3GS...
someones being watching IT crowd & Friends!
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.
Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
My guess is that it isn't actually that bad.
dont believe everything you read online.
Frankenstein - Member
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
You're right. They are shit. Don't get one.
Sorry but I need a phone to make calls on business, family, people abroad, Skype, internet and aGPS and some of the useful functions do help but if the signal kept dropping out on my current moby I would either get it fixed on warranty or forced to buy a new mobile.
I would gladly buy an Apple iphone4G if it did not have signal issues and I don't care how cool it looks or its an iphone...I want a phone that works-Apple please fix the production phones!
If HTC Desire has bad reception -it wouldn't sell or would it?
So what if, just for instance, they offered you it with a free case which entirely fixed the problem?
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.
Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
Do you live in America? Do you have AT&T as your network? No? Then you're a half-wit who believes a load of media generated garbage and FUD, designed to lower Apple's share prices so that hedge-fund parasites can reap large profits when the share price goes up. There are no call dropping issues in the UK because the iPhone is shared across multiple networks. In the States there is one network that struggles in large cities like SF, LA, NY, Chicago, because of the heavy data usage by iPhone users. My iPhone 4 happily streams 6Music on Tuneit Radio even when there are no bars showing, so a phone call has no issues, unless, of course you're somewhere where there's no signal at all...
i got a 32gig iphone 4 on 3 last week
1st iphone but I have an ipod touch already
it is very nice - I can't seem to recreate the signal drop issue without a bumper. I am using the bumper though cos it feels a bit like holding a bar of soap without it.
A big draw for me was the camera and video camera (as I never remember to take stand alone cameras and video cameras out with me, and I want just one device in my pocket) - I am very pleased with both
3 have customer service issues - but IME the coverage is very good (and getting better as they are soon sharing network with vodaphone). Their prices for iPhone 4 seem like the best available to me. Only issue is I think they are only giving them to existing customers who are due an upgrade right now
Then you're a half-wit who believes a load of media generated garbage and FUD, designed to lower Apple's share prices
Erm.. I agree there was far more hype about this than it warranted, but you do know that even Apple admitted that it does drop more calls than previous versions?
Of course if you do use a case then there is no issue and it actually has much better reception than previous versions.
CountZero is Stephen Fry and I claim my £5.
i'm not up to speed on the latest and greatest, but spent a couple of days in North Wales with someone who has an iphone 4, we're both on the same network - but they couldn't make any calls as they couldn't get any signal, my phone (cheap and cheerfull) had no problems
no idea if this is limited to the iphone, but guess if your not in a city centre, they aint much cop?
since spoke to someone else, who's out and about a lot - they love their iphone 4, but have another cheapo phone to make calls on
It's just been reviewed on the gadget show alongside one of this "I can't afford an iPhone so will pretend I don't care phones" the iPhone 4 walked it.
CountZero - MemberI was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.
Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!Do you live in America? Do you have AT&T as your network? No? Then you're a half-wit who believes a load of media generated garbage and FUD, designed to lower Apple's share prices so that hedge-fund parasites can reap large profits when the share price goes up. There are no call dropping issues in the UK because the iPhone is shared across multiple networks. In the States there is one network that struggles in large cities like SF, LA, NY, Chicago, because of the heavy data usage by iPhone users. My iPhone 4 happily streams 6Music on Tuneit Radio even when there are no bars showing, so a phone call has no issues, unless, of course you're somewhere where there's no signal at all...
Well I went into a Apple store where the demo phone dropped signal till the guy put a bumper on and I have never had a signal drop on the same UK network but at least his own personal 3GS was working alright.
I like Apple and own a Macbook and a new Mac Pro and have spent ££££s but I still won't buy ANY phone that has reception issues from NEW where other phones work fine. I'll wait till the 5G comes out.
I've never had to a buy case for any of my phones so why should I use a bumper? you guys enjoy your faulty phone. 😆
I own a Nokia 6300 that as soon as I put in my pocket looses all reception.
But even with the reception issue I still keep looking at the iphone4.
Other phones don't work fine. Many others have similar reception problems - though the iPhone 4 is slightly worse.
But are you saying if the phone had been designed with a bumper as an integral part then you would have bought one, but coming with one as a seperate part means you won't consider it?
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
Trust me, I am in no way an Apple fanboi, but I decided last week to take the iPhone 4 plunge (due to the strength of its App Store, especially productivity apps like Omnifocus etc). And my shiny new 4 arrived this morning > spent most of the day setting it up > and I have no reception issues whatsoever. I'll still be claiming my free case, but as a piece of hardware, the iPhone 4 cannot be beaten (IMO). And I've had years of WinMo and Android, so I'm not new to this game.
My concensus is that a bad batch of 4's got out and those that received them quite rightly complained. However, anyone owning a 4 IMO should respect the quality of its build and finish and use a case of some kind ... which means all those in receipt of a dodgy 4 should accept Apple's gesture of a free case (of which there's a choice of about 6-7) and just get on with it, because 1) they won't have a reception problem anymore, and 2) they'll be protecting their phone as well. The only problem I know of is that some people have reported the signal returning byt wifi disappearing ...
no idea if this is limited to the iphone, but guess if your not in a city centre, they aint much cop?
no issues with me in the middle of the Sussex countryside...
the whole signal loss thing seems to be a bit out of proportion. Apple is getting a pasting, but I think that is largely due to the fact they are very good at blowing their own trumpet. So certain people are happy to put the boot in when they get the opportunity.
You look at the 1st nokia N95 a great idea, but an absolutely terrible phone. In the past most of nokia's new handsets just didn't work. They would shutdown regularly, the battery wasn't up to the job, keypads would fall apart in a matter of months. How many times would you ring up customer services for your network to be told "it was a known issue, we'll send out your replacement today", but there was never this much fuss, because nobody really cared.
iPhones are great.
Posted from my HTC.
My mate has an x10 mini, another still has the n95, I can certainly say that the reception on my iphone 4 is better and also the battery life is too, when using them a lot.
Yea the battery life aint that great with the iPhone 4, but its also a lot better than some others, if used the same.
BTW I use mine in a very low signal area, x10, n95 and a few others have to go into a certain place in the field to get reception, I get reception everywhere! But can make it drop by using the deathgrip for a minute, easy, don't hold it like that, or get a case or some tape.
So don't the phone people just send a free case out with the phone now? Or do you actually have to go and claim it from somewhere?
So don't the phone people just send a free case out with the phone now? Or do you actually have to go and claim it from somewhere?
You have to download the bumper app and choose your case/bumper.
iPhones are great.
Posted from my HTC.
Objectivity WIN!
May I say in return that HTC 'droids are also great.
Gotta love apple marketing, i've noticed that when people post on non-iphone related subjects, they will often say such things "I'll post more details later from the PC, on on my iPhone...." going to the trouble of using the capital in the apple way.
I looked at the iphone and didn't think much of it. Personally, i think the apps are over rated, i have a ipod touch and i dont use it for anything else other than music. I'll play with a app for a bit, then forget about it.
The phone auto corrects the 'i' to be lower case...