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Don't be such a damp squid.
About what? Can you be more pacific? 😉
About what? Can you be more pacific?
Well I would be, but it's my coffee break. Time for an expresso I feel.
IGMC.
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I use mine all the time but I wouldnt put it on a pedal stool like some
I've got a 3GS and the wife has a 4, the difference between them is no way enough to warrant an upgrade.
Still pees me off that she's got a better phone though and only has an Estee Lauder makeup app on it! 🙂
There's an Estee Lauder app! Dammit, how could I have missed that! off to the app store now 🙂
[i]a pedal stool[/i]
is that like rocking horse poo?
pedal stool
😆
It's like a mute point 🙂
I discovered an unexpected bonus on the 4 vs. the 3 - the LED flash makes a passable torch for stumbling home from the pub. Far better than the screen torch that the app used on my old 3GS...
someones being watching IT crowd & Friends!
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.
Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
My guess is that it isn't actually that bad.
dont believe everything you read online.
Frankenstein - Member
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
You're right. They are shit. Don't get one.
Sorry but I need a phone to make calls on business, family, people abroad, Skype, internet and aGPS and some of the useful functions do help but if the signal kept dropping out on my current moby I would either get it fixed on warranty or forced to buy a new mobile.
I would gladly buy an Apple iphone4G if it did not have signal issues and I don't care how cool it looks or its an iphone...I want a phone that works-Apple please fix the production phones!
If HTC Desire has bad reception -it wouldn't sell or would it?
So what if, just for instance, they offered you it with a free case which entirely fixed the problem?
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.
Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
Do you live in America? Do you have AT&T as your network? No? Then you're a half-wit who believes a load of media generated garbage and FUD, designed to lower Apple's share prices so that hedge-fund parasites can reap large profits when the share price goes up. There are no call dropping issues in the UK because the iPhone is shared across multiple networks. In the States there is one network that struggles in large cities like SF, LA, NY, Chicago, because of the heavy data usage by iPhone users. My iPhone 4 happily streams 6Music on Tuneit Radio even when there are no bars showing, so a phone call has no issues, unless, of course you're somewhere where there's no signal at all...
i got a 32gig iphone 4 on 3 last week
1st iphone but I have an ipod touch already
it is very nice - I can't seem to recreate the signal drop issue without a bumper. I am using the bumper though cos it feels a bit like holding a bar of soap without it.
A big draw for me was the camera and video camera (as I never remember to take stand alone cameras and video cameras out with me, and I want just one device in my pocket) - I am very pleased with both
3 have customer service issues - but IME the coverage is very good (and getting better as they are soon sharing network with vodaphone). Their prices for iPhone 4 seem like the best available to me. Only issue is I think they are only giving them to existing customers who are due an upgrade right now
Then you're a half-wit who believes a load of media generated garbage and FUD, designed to lower Apple's share prices
Erm.. I agree there was far more hype about this than it warranted, but you do know that even Apple admitted that it does drop more calls than previous versions?
Of course if you do use a case then there is no issue and it actually has much better reception than previous versions.
CountZero is Stephen Fry and I claim my £5.
i'm not up to speed on the latest and greatest, but spent a couple of days in North Wales with someone who has an iphone 4, we're both on the same network - but they couldn't make any calls as they couldn't get any signal, my phone (cheap and cheerfull) had no problems
no idea if this is limited to the iphone, but guess if your not in a city centre, they aint much cop?
since spoke to someone else, who's out and about a lot - they love their iphone 4, but have another cheapo phone to make calls on
It's just been reviewed on the gadget show alongside one of this "I can't afford an iPhone so will pretend I don't care phones" the iPhone 4 walked it.
CountZero - MemberI was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.
Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!Do you live in America? Do you have AT&T as your network? No? Then you're a half-wit who believes a load of media generated garbage and FUD, designed to lower Apple's share prices so that hedge-fund parasites can reap large profits when the share price goes up. There are no call dropping issues in the UK because the iPhone is shared across multiple networks. In the States there is one network that struggles in large cities like SF, LA, NY, Chicago, because of the heavy data usage by iPhone users. My iPhone 4 happily streams 6Music on Tuneit Radio even when there are no bars showing, so a phone call has no issues, unless, of course you're somewhere where there's no signal at all...
Well I went into a Apple store where the demo phone dropped signal till the guy put a bumper on and I have never had a signal drop on the same UK network but at least his own personal 3GS was working alright.
I like Apple and own a Macbook and a new Mac Pro and have spent ££££s but I still won't buy ANY phone that has reception issues from NEW where other phones work fine. I'll wait till the 5G comes out.
I've never had to a buy case for any of my phones so why should I use a bumper? you guys enjoy your faulty phone. 😆
I own a Nokia 6300 that as soon as I put in my pocket looses all reception.
But even with the reception issue I still keep looking at the iphone4.
Other phones don't work fine. Many others have similar reception problems - though the iPhone 4 is slightly worse.
But are you saying if the phone had been designed with a bumper as an integral part then you would have bought one, but coming with one as a seperate part means you won't consider it?
I was about to get one and found out its faulty and signal reception errors.Why would anyone buy a faulty phone is crazy and has more money than sense!
Trust me, I am in no way an Apple fanboi, but I decided last week to take the iPhone 4 plunge (due to the strength of its App Store, especially productivity apps like Omnifocus etc). And my shiny new 4 arrived this morning > spent most of the day setting it up > and I have no reception issues whatsoever. I'll still be claiming my free case, but as a piece of hardware, the iPhone 4 cannot be beaten (IMO). And I've had years of WinMo and Android, so I'm not new to this game.
My concensus is that a bad batch of 4's got out and those that received them quite rightly complained. However, anyone owning a 4 IMO should respect the quality of its build and finish and use a case of some kind ... which means all those in receipt of a dodgy 4 should accept Apple's gesture of a free case (of which there's a choice of about 6-7) and just get on with it, because 1) they won't have a reception problem anymore, and 2) they'll be protecting their phone as well. The only problem I know of is that some people have reported the signal returning byt wifi disappearing ...
no idea if this is limited to the iphone, but guess if your not in a city centre, they aint much cop?
no issues with me in the middle of the Sussex countryside...
the whole signal loss thing seems to be a bit out of proportion. Apple is getting a pasting, but I think that is largely due to the fact they are very good at blowing their own trumpet. So certain people are happy to put the boot in when they get the opportunity.
You look at the 1st nokia N95 a great idea, but an absolutely terrible phone. In the past most of nokia's new handsets just didn't work. They would shutdown regularly, the battery wasn't up to the job, keypads would fall apart in a matter of months. How many times would you ring up customer services for your network to be told "it was a known issue, we'll send out your replacement today", but there was never this much fuss, because nobody really cared.
iPhones are great.
Posted from my HTC.
My mate has an x10 mini, another still has the n95, I can certainly say that the reception on my iphone 4 is better and also the battery life is too, when using them a lot.
Yea the battery life aint that great with the iPhone 4, but its also a lot better than some others, if used the same.
BTW I use mine in a very low signal area, x10, n95 and a few others have to go into a certain place in the field to get reception, I get reception everywhere! But can make it drop by using the deathgrip for a minute, easy, don't hold it like that, or get a case or some tape.
So don't the phone people just send a free case out with the phone now? Or do you actually have to go and claim it from somewhere?
So don't the phone people just send a free case out with the phone now? Or do you actually have to go and claim it from somewhere?
You have to download the bumper app and choose your case/bumper.
iPhones are great.
Posted from my HTC.
Objectivity WIN!
May I say in return that HTC 'droids are also great.
Gotta love apple marketing, i've noticed that when people post on non-iphone related subjects, they will often say such things "I'll post more details later from the PC, on on my iPhone...." going to the trouble of using the capital in the apple way.
I looked at the iphone and didn't think much of it. Personally, i think the apps are over rated, i have a ipod touch and i dont use it for anything else other than music. I'll play with a app for a bit, then forget about it.
The phone auto corrects the 'i' to be lower case...
Personally, i think the apps are over rated
All 225,000 of them??
probably about 224,000 of them are rubbish....
True, but if you can't find [i]something[/i] useful in that lot then I'm impressed!
Some apps really make my interweb life easy.
Sky+ Remote Record
BBC News
Facebook
Sky Sports Football Score Centre
I don't see how any of those could be 'over rated' - they perform simple functions and do them well.
Having never looked at all 225,000 of them, i can't say catergorically they are all over rated but from the ones ive used, id say they were.
For instance, i installed a fuel tracker thing that logged the MPG of the car. The ipod lives in the car, so its allways availible but in the 6 months ive had the app, i've used it twice. I found out that it didn't tell me anything i didn't already know.
After a software updated stuffed up my ipod, i hadn't re-installed the apps. It took me 2 months before i even noticed i hadn't done so.
I'm not a techno-phobe, nor a apple basher but an app that helps you to boil an egg? Come on...its a bit of fun, but ultimately pointless.
So is there any consensus on which deal or network to get? I find all the options pretty confusing. I'm pay as you go with O2 at the moment, is it a good idea to stick with that to get the iphone?
Hmm so a mileage app that you didn't use and an egg boiling timer.
I don't think you've exactly exhausted the limits of the app store. 😀
Personally I use quite a few apps pretty regularly, some every day, and I find them genuinely useful:
BBC News and The Guardian: for my news.
Reeder: for my RSS feeds.
Facebook: for my friends.
MotionX GPS: for navigation and route recording.
NatWest: for banking.
British Gas: for bills and meter readings.
epicurious: for recipes.
Wolfram, Wikipanion, IMDB, Dictionary: for reference.
TV Guide, TV Catchup, iPlayer, TuneIn Radio, Now Playing, Orange Wednesday, : for TV, movies and radio.
Various geeky apps (VNC,RDP,SSH etc): for geeky stuff.
Myriad of games: for entertainment and passing time.
I use an app for Copenhagen airport that gives me push updates on flights I'm interested in. As I a) live in Copenhagen and b) fly in and out quite a lot, that's a very useful thing to have.
I also use an app that gives me live times for trains from my local station to my work.
2 simple examples of apps that are very useful to my daily life.
YMMV
GrahamS - where do you get the iPlayer app from? App Store version seems to be for something entirely different.
Some of the cool apps I've running (in addition to those mentioned already)
Evernote
Dropbox
TwitterDeck
Wikipanion
Battery Doctor
Skype
Autotrader
Rightmove
Met Office Weather (localised throughout the day)
National Rail
Amazon
Ebay
Paypal
TV Guide
National Trust
Photoshop
B&Q
Mobile RSS
ECB Cricket
Omnifocus
LinkedIn
Tubemap
TuneInRadio
TalkSport
Pocket First Aid and CPR
Tesco Finder
WordPress
Gorillacam
Games - Angry Birds and Ninja Fruit
iPlayer isn't an app - it's just a bookmark that you add to your homescreen so it looks like an app.