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Anyone have any good/bad advice on inverters for camper vans.

This being bike related I'm looking at running a pressure washer off one (which rates massively highly for wattage).

It also needs to power a guitar amp, if only to indulge my need for non-stop rocking.

I found this while shopping - a little rich for my blood, unless someone can convince me it's the way to go...

http://www.fasteronline.co.uk/Ring-Automotive-ring-power-source-2000w-inverter-p-4682.html

If it makes a difference I'm driving a VW Transporter T5, sorry to any split-screen or retro camper fans out there...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!


 
Posted : 01/03/2011 11:23 pm
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How will you power it? From a leisure battery? If so it'll need to be enormous to run a pressure washer for any time.

Check the peak output vs continuous for what you're looking at, the latter is the number that matters.


 
Posted : 01/03/2011 11:59 pm
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Pressure washer wont work.

The Guitar amp will be ok. Until the campers next door ask you to keep it down.


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 2:19 am
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Get a dirtworker instead


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 6:11 am
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You'll probably need a pure sine wave inverter if you want to run an amp without horrendous noise.

Starting a pressure washer will take a well oversized inverter, as inverters and inductive loads don't mix too well.
Also, the current draw on a 12V battery powering a pressure washer will draw a substantial amount of current.

Personally, I'd say get pure sine wave inverter for the amp, and get a dirt worker or similar for the bike washing


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 11:06 am
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Starting a pressure washer will take a well oversized inverter, as inverters and inductive loads don't mix too well.

Shouldn't there be a capacitor (or more sophisticated electric device using some sort of variable capacitor) to act as a correction factor in any highly inductive load? I though this was a design require to minimise any out of phase current demand?


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 11:27 am
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Standard AC induction motors have a high start up current, as essentially until the motor gets spinning, you're just shorting a big loop of wire across the power supply.
There are ways to minimise the load, but a power washer isn't going to have any of them.

And yes, a standard single phase AC motor will have at least one capacitor, but it's purpose in life is to start the motor by inducing a phase lag, so the motor starts spinning.


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 11:39 am
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You'd wreck your battery I reckon.
You may as well get a generator if you're spending that much: alternatively get the dirtworker.


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 11:46 am
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I wasn't refereeing to the starting capacitor but a CF device on any highly inductive load such as is found on HF lights. Electricity companies charging more for out of phase loads and all.

But I see your point that it's only at start up on a simple single phase motor in normal conditions.


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 11:50 am
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http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/product-reviews/quick-test---dirtworker-washer/4192.html

This looks pretty good to me... We have a Mobi in stock at my shop too, looks like I'll be posting a review of both if anyone's interested to know which works out better!!

If nothing else I predict an epic pressure washer fight between me and my mechanic.


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 11:52 am
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Get a dirtworker type thing as has been suggested, or if you fancy a project have a look at bilge/deck pumps (ebay). You could build one into your camper...


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 12:03 pm
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The first link I posted has a chart showing what you can run off that device. Looks as if pressure washers are right out. A generator is gonna take up too much space for what I need, but I can hide a dirt worker/mobi in a cabinet inside the van quite easily.

I don't know much about electronics, not willing to tinker too much since I'm almost guarenteed to blow myself up. This pure sine wave inverter business isn't something I'd thought of - hideous noise is a speciality of mine though in this case that's a sensible concern.

I will find a way to make this work. It's all about campsite gigs!! Even better if the bikes are clean for the morning after.


 
Posted : 02/03/2011 12:04 pm