God I hate the English at times!!! Out yesterday with the wife and kids, riding round the local reservoir. Why the **** are people so ignorant when you're on your bikes? Our little lad who's 5, isn't quite the off road master just yet and was forced off the trail several times by these pricks!!! Reckon i'm gonna fit an air horn for our next ride out!!!
Wouldnt have happened in Scotland or NI
And its not even 7:00am on a Monday.
I've been stewing about it all night!!!! And woke up early to further increase my stewingness!! Tuncs!!
Next time make sure there's no English out.
Which does tend to make me defend car drivers a bit. It's more a case of a person being a stupid, ignorant, selfish and not the car. There are drivers, there are tw4tish pedestrians and, belive it or not, there are cyclists. Regarding the fact it wouldn't happen in Scotland, [b]WALES[/b] or NI, I think I agree, the English [i]are[/i] more worthy of hatred than anyone else. 😉
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There are ignorant people all over the world, regardless of nationality, wrightyson and don simon just proved this with their over generalised posts.
One born every minute. 😆
How do you know they were English?
And were they cyclists or walkers?
Racist.
were the people also on bikes? if so that is awful as bikers should know how to behave around obvious crowds and even more so with wobbly youngsters on bikes
if they were walkers then it's not right but i kinda think they do it because they don't know how to react to bikes as they have little experience of the balance needed and unpredicability of the inexperienced rider,they tend to think you know what you are doing and let you take the lead, which a 5 year old obviously wouldn't
still a bit rubbish though, but it'll give your little one vital experience on how things happen when out riding, so take the positives from that
bikers can be bloody ignorant too
was coming down coldwell clough yesterday and two bikers had stopped and left their bikes completely blocking the trail
made no attempt to move them as I struggled past
people can be ****s...on our local canal path you get a lot of tanglers with carp poles. Recently this guy had laid three across the bank, over the towpath and into the opposite hedge. Obviously expecting cyclists to pick up their bikes and carry them past.
Fool. Blimey - do you know how much a carbon fibre fishing rod costs!
(not me BTW, I didn't crush three fishing rods in under a second, it was a mate)
Wouldnt have happened in Scotland or NI
He's right. We English are complete ****s.
Yes complete **** but we have all the oil money (thanks) 😛
Unfortunately, you have to accept this whenever you go anywhere that you might find other people.
If I go to Rutland water for a couple of laps (it's good for getting miles in the legs), I have to be there quite early or else you might as well not bother.
Once the families/dog walkers/loved-up couples start wandering round, it gets too frustrating.
It's not that I want the place to myself, but they seem to have no appreciation that there may be other people around who want to use the facility and that they might be going a smidge faster. And how do 2 people manage to completely take up an entire 8ft wide path??
It's the same if we go shopping. It's busy, you make every attempt to move around people, but they make no attempt to do likewise. I quite often end up going for the rigid shoulder approach, once my patience runs out.
Riding along the canal yesterday, I came up behind a group of middle-aged people spread all over the path, said a pleasant "Good afternoon" and (after a bit of faffing,)they eventually moved over and one of the women muttered under her breath as I went past "need to get a bell".
I was only using the canal towpath as a transit route for about 2 miles to avoid a busy road, was going at maybe jogging pace and slowing right down whenever I met anyone and every time I'd passed someone I and they been polite but this woman just had to be arsey! Why? Lovely day, lots of people out enjoying themselves, no-one else had had a problem. So I stopped and explained to them that I much preferred a polite greeting rather than a bell and she backed down straight away. Moody cow.
In defense of the English can I just point one thing out....................................the French
Did you have a bell
crazy legs - the bizarre thing is that walkers on the whole prefer you to have and use a bell.
use one. it is of no deficit to you and walkers prefer it
[i]crazy legs - the bizarre thing is that walkers on the whole prefer you to have and use a bell.[/i]
IME you can't win.
Use a bell and people leap around like frightened rabbits and say "oh you scared the life out of me" or alternatively, they don't hear it.
Don't use one (substitute it with a friendly greeting) and people ask you to use one!
hope pro 2 rear hub, all your problems are over.
Wow, seems like a lot of pent up hatred there, they probably thought your kid looked pretty stable and would be fine going round them. Not exactly something to get your knickers in a twist about, you must have so little else in your life to be worried about - I envy you! I used to love going offroad as a sprog, but then I wasn't taken on busy paths until I was stable enough to get round the obstacles present.
IME most walkers take the sound of a bell as "get out of my way"
i dont use one.
MY experience is that walkers prefer onwe, using one gives yo the high moral ground, I know several walkers who complain about being startled by cyclists without bells, I have been startled by a cyclist without a bell myself
I am certain you get a better response from people with a bell and find it frustrating that cyclists won't use one. It costs you nothing to do so
I ride up behind walkers and pull a sick skid spraying them with grit, get's them out the way and they are usually very impressed with my skillz. Wicked.
My experience is the contrary TJ, and as a consequence I don't use one, I prefer to either pass silently if it's clear, or wait until they hear me/spot me. At that point they normally move of their own accord and apoligise for getting in the way, whereas with a bell they tend to take it as "move out of my way" and it gets their back up no-end.
Do you know what I hate, everything.
No, I mean, I hate other cyclists particularly at trail centres who know you're behind them (especially on descents) and ignore your pleas for them to move over. I wouldn't do this to a young child, but if you're an adult and won't get out of my way following a polite request, I'm gonna do my best to get past you no matter how safe you perceive my manoeveur 😈
So does that make me ignorant, or the person who thinks everyone wants to ride at their snails pace?
hope pro 2 rear hub, all your problems are over.
I thought I was the only person who thought these hubs were uber loud!
Most people are gits.
[i]My experience is the contrary TJ[/i]
Me too, walkers down here find them 'agressive', or so they've told me.
So I usually just slow down and holla.
I just knock them to the ground then dry bum them
wonder if anyone is on the Reservoirfancier.com forum complaining about the **** with the 5 year old inexperienced cyclist who was all over the path getting in the way of people out for a sunday walk
I'm with TJ on this one, bells are the way forward.
I used to think they were agressive and a kind of "get out of my way" demand (like car horns tend to be), but more recently I've learnt it's not the instrument itself, it's the way you use it. Give 'em a ring when you're 15/20 metres away and it's a polite gesture, wait 'til you're right behind them and you're being a bit of an arse.
Oh yeah, and those little 'ting-ting' ones? They're rubbish in wet weather (the water dampens the sound somehow), get one of the proper dring-dring ones. Top tip - they sell 'em in Wilkos for around a quid!
Ah excellent sweeping generalisation,allegations of racism,medium vitriol,small amount of mtb content.... Happy Monday Everyone 🙂
Peyote beat me to it.
I've a bell for towpath duties. It took a long while for [i]me [/i]to get past the feeling that I'm being agressive by using it. I've found it helps to bell muggles from quite a long way away, so they go "ooh, I thought I heard something... oh, there's a cyclist coming" rather than doing it from a yard away.
Some people are just arses though. I don't think there's any fix for that. I had to dismount at the weekend to negotiate a pack of kids fishing under a bridge(*) who stood looking gormlessly -right at us- despite numerous bells and cries of "excuse me." Most people are considerate enough, but you'll always get one or two who think they've a right to exclusive use of their stretch of road / towpath / bridleway / whatever.
(* perhaps they were trolls...)
Fishing rods? I rode over one once, when the ignorant slob who'd seen me approaching and looked straight at me, just sat there and made no attempt to move it. Even though I'd stopped. And said 'scuse me'. Tanker. I made sure I went over the reel too...
Hey I'm as English as they come but if were out tootling along walking or riding always tell kids to keep in etc. This particular group though stood across the whole 3 m wide path just talking. Could see is coming from ages away etc. Just pisses me off coz we always shift out the way. Even the mrs mentioned something about ignorant tuncs!! 🙂
God, what about idiots in supermarket. You stop, 'after you', wait, do they say thank you? Do they ****. I've started leaning in as close to their face as possible and loudly saying 'Thanks' for them.
Grrrrr.
God, what about idiots in supermarket.
Shopping zombies. Don't get me started.
In ASDA(*) on Saturday, two families blocking off an aisle end in all three directions. I went "excuse me please," two of them turned and looked at me, not one of them moved an inch. So, I added, "or, don't" as I mowed my way through them.
(* - which I appreciate, was my first mistake)
Climbed a fair sized hill from the beach with my little boy (aged 2) on my shoulders yesterday - he was very smiley and chatty yet several people he said hello to didn't even acknowledge us.
All were slightly overweight, badly dressed but trying to be posh and clearly hate the world. Just like a few on STW... 😉
This was at Daymer Bay - a place where too many go "to be seen" and are therefore too important to speak to anyone else.
I just maim the ignorant.
Hope Pro 2's help a bit with the hearding of the ignorant.clickclickclickclick.
the hearding of the ignorant
Is that herding or hearing? 😕
some top hat in Tescos in Whaley bridge barged past me twice the other day
called him a tosser, but he didn't even look at me
What tyres for trolley rage!! Love it!
No, I mean, I hate other cyclists particularly at trail centres who know you're behind them (especially on descents) and ignore your pleas for them to move over. I wouldn't do this to a young child, but if you're an adult and won't get out of my way following a polite request, I'm gonna do my best to get past you no matter how safe you perceive my manoeveur
As a rider with relatively poor skills its not always easy to move over on a stretch of descent. If I am finding it tricky, despite the fact that you are a cycling god I am afraid you will have to wait a bit until I can move off the line safely.
If I perceive your manoeveur unsafe then you may perceive my reaction as excessive!
Surfer - I'm not entirely intolerant, and it sounds like you still ride with awareness of the trail and other trail users. It's when someone has the opportunity to pull over and doesn't that they risk getting T-boned!
Ultimately I want everyone to have fun on a trail, I'll get out the way asap of a whippet on a climb, and expect the same courtesy on a descent.
Get a £1.50 bell and use it! Pedestrians out on walks respond well to them. They know immdiately what is approaching without needing to turn around - even the stupid ones!
Well, in the Chilterns yesterday, it was a bit of a revelation! Much smileyness and courtesy from some of the many walkers when I used my bell/called out politely. 8)
Of course it may well have been my ineptitude on a bike that forced them to jump into the undergrowth. 🙄
Our little girl who just bollocked through em in the end had tinged the bell a few times! I'm gonna look on flea bay tonight for some loud handlebar add ons for the kids 😉
don simon - MemberOne born every minute.
Ah, sarcasm, lowest form you know. 😉
i find parents are generally prone to ignorance. it's as if the very act of producing a wonderful piece of humanity absolves themselves from any rational thought or concession towards others.
i blame the hormones.
Read the above mr smith, that's not the case with our sprogs at all!! Although when said add ons to the bars are ready I'm gonna tell them to use them all the time!!
thankfully there are exceptions 🙂
[i]As a rider with relatively poor skills its not always easy to move over on a stretch of descent. If I am finding it tricky, despite the fact that you are a cycling god I am afraid you will have to wait a bit until I can move off the line safely.
If I perceive your manoeveur unsafe then you may perceive my reaction as excessive! [/i]
Surfer, that's entirely correct though, the responsibility lies with the overtak[b]er[/b] to pass safely without endangering anyone. The overtak[b]ee[/b] should of course not hog the trail for longer than necessary but equally they have right of way and can continue until they find a safe place for the overtaker to come past.
IME it's always the wannabes who yell and holler to come past - a true pro just gets on with it, often making a line where none exists and doing it all in a perfectly safe manner!
a true pro just gets on with it, often making a line where none exists and doing it all in a perfectly safe manner!
Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment as I'm yet to even touch someone whilst under/overtaking. Some people do find it alarming though.
At the risk of tangenting,
As a less experienced rider, I will happily yield to faster riders behind me [i]if I know they're there.[/i] Sadly, more often that not the first time they make themselves known to me is when they try and barge past. Please, if this is you, stop it; a yell will suffice.
a yell will suffice
My first option is always a pleasant 'excuse me'.
Ah, sarcasm, lowest form you know.
Who's being sarcastic?
Just purchased a really nice pink bell as I think you people are correct and it may help keep the peace. Thanks guys/gals......
I purchased a mace. It's brilliant at clearing the trails.
I reckon us girlies have a slight advantage on the trails - a winning smile and good manners. 🙂
Some blokes react with a bad attitude. 😯
(C_G causing mischief).
Blokes aren't biting. 😉
You know what C_G... I rarely ever try and overtake women on climbs. It's like there's a little ray of sunshine draggin me up the hill.... 8)
TSY - cuts both ways. 😉
cinnamon_girl - Member
I reckon us girlies have a slight advantage on the trails - a winning smile and good manners.
For a not dissimilar reason that is why I never have problems when I'm riding with my 6 yr old daughter. Coming up to people I tell her to ting her bell, she gives a big toothy grin and we both ride past. Easy.
it's a minefield...
I've been called a four eyed c*** by an elderly gentlemen who I repeatedly said excuse me to, and he looked back and made no effort to move over a bit. When I cycled past anyway he treated me to a verbal assault not limited to the little beauty I've already mentioned.
When I stopped and asked him what his problem was, he kicked my bike, squared up to me and said, "i'm 80 years old...what are you going f'ing to do?". After getting back on my bike and politely telling him I was looking forward to his funeral, he walked off muttering about f'ing cyclists.
He did tell me he knew where I lived and his grandsons were going to 'get me'.
I think the only thing to do is either ring your bell if you've got one, or politely say excuse me...if they go off on one or don't make an effort, truck on by. There's no point getting in an arguement, I should have just carried on cycling and not looked back, but I was lost and in a bad mood.
Get a bell on the bike.
English? well I think some people are idiots and some are very nice.
OP -You need to wake the wife and give her a good seeing to and you'll feel better!
McHamish - just ignore people - I mean if he swore at you - what does it tell you about his brain or attitude? he was jealous of your bike 😉
I had a strange incident with walkers once.
Using the local towpath to reach some trails i happened upon a youngish lad wandering along in his own little world whilst three adults were approx. 20yrds ahead, strung out in line abreast chatting away.
I approached the young lad slowly, said "excuse me" several times quite loudly but it had no effect. Eventually managed to bimble past him and approached the 3 adults. Said "excuse me" again, & received a gobfull from the female walker to the tune of "he's deaf & autistic,why can't you be careful around him!" I realised she was talking about the young lad i'd just passed slowly & carefully.
Now, i'm not a professional carer, but surely if a young teenaged lad is both deaf & autistic then shouldn't his carers be watching out for him rather than leaving him to follow on 20yrds behind on a ruddy canal bank?
She seemed most put out when i rather strongly put this theory forward...
Cycling the TPT on Saturday, and a chap shouted at me where your bell, i shouted back a bloody scoucer nicked it mate(then realised i was actually in scoucerland. I rode off quite quick.
What's a 'scoucer'?
It's like a manc but without the ability to even attempt to speak English... 😛