If you approach the roundabout, stop, then look to see if the traffic is clear, and it was clear, and you've stopped for no reason..
I'd much, [i]much[/i] rather people completely stopped rather than just giving a cursory glance for cars before diving out in front of a cyclist.
Far too easy to [url= http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilot-teach-cyclists/ ]lose a cyclist in a saccade[/url] when you don't slow down and look properly. Search on YouTube for "roundabout smidsy" for plenty of evidence!
On my second day, if I'm still allowed out. I would patrol the motorways.
I would target the stupid arseholes I see all the time who can't seem to get into the lane for their exit before this
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Again, I'd have a very busy day.
Scratch that I'd get everyone who can't get into the lane before this
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Might as well be strict as I've only got 1 day.
GrahamS - MemberI'd much, much rather people completely stopped rather than just giving a cursory glance for cars before diving out in front of a cyclist.
Far too easy to lose a cyclist in a saccade when you don't slow down and look properly. Search on YouTube for "roundabout smidsy" for plenty of evidence!
I'd much rather they stopped deliberately blocking the view up to the roundabout.
Richmtb - so right. Been there too. I'm in the driving lane & obeying the speed limit. Am I really undertaking if other vehicle is in the 2nd overtaking lane, with nothing to overtake? Were that car to use the road correctly, I'd have happily moved out into the 1st overtaking lane to pass.
DezB - I've taken to calling them junction divers - how late can they leave it to scythe across 3 lanes of traffic & onto the slip road.
Actually had a car drive into the side many years ago when motorway narrowed from 3 lanes to 2. Apparently it was my fault that I wouldn't make room for him...with 40 tons of lorry alongside & another behind me!!! Needless to say I won that insurance argument & with minor damage to old banger I was running at the time, compared to extensive damage to side of his new car, costs were much higher on his side.
Tailgaters and undertakers (people passing on the inside, rather then people driving hearses) on the motorway.
You're aware that undertaking is perfectly legal, yes?
If you don't want to be undertaken, move the hell over.
Not the sort of undertaking I'm talking about, isn't.
GrahamS - cool link, I've learnt a new word today!
[i]People who don't anticipate gaps on the approach to roundabouts:[/i]
I wonder if new drivers are taught that now. I understand the saccade issue, isn't it better to take two or three looks at the roundabout and any approaches in sight, so any movement shows up. And you can spot the occasional huge pothole or mislaid pallet in plenty of time.
People who try to take the three grids line while you're to their right.
slowoldgit - Memberthe three grids line
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Am I having a moment...?
Not the sort of undertaking I'm talking about, isn't.
What sort of undertaking would that be, then?
I'll grant you that someone aggressively forcing their way around another vehicle in gaps that don't really exist needs penalising, but that's not really "undertaking" which is the problem so much as driving [s]like a nob[/s] dangerously.
That aside, if you're being undertaken (without being cut up), you're in the wrong lane. If you were in the correct lane, it wouldn't be possible to undertake.
if you're being undertaken (without being cut up), you're in the wrong lane.
The key part is in brackets...
Ah, so your argument is against people who cut you up, then. Cool, glad we cleared that up. (-:
Sorry, did my original post not give subtle hints that "driving like a dickhead" would be the prime target? I thought in context my examples would have made that fairly clear.
I used to have an ex. Police SD1 as a lad.
I'd have a Q car, something a granny would drive, but with some modifications to the engine, brakes, and suspension. How about a Micra?
I'd target people who travel closer than two seconds to the vehicle in front, people who don't indicate, and people who overtake in no overtaking zones. And scrotes who park on grass verges (even though their isn't a law against this, I'd invent one). Oh yes, and oiks with illegal number plates (dumber plates). And I'd give condescending words of advice (slowly, to eat into their precious time) to anyone who drove forwards onto their drive or into a supermarket space.
I'd patrol my local area (King's Lynn, Norfolk) because these offences are rife here.
You're aware that undertaking is perfectly legal, yes?
It's as perfectly legal as pushing a screwdriver into someone's head, there's no specific law saying it isn't legal, but it is covered under a blanket law. In the case of undertaking the law is Dangerous Driving.
TuckerUK - MemberYou're aware that undertaking is perfectly legal, yes?
It's as perfectly legal as pushing a screwdriver into someone's head, there's no specific law saying it isn't legal, but it is covered under a blanket law. In the case of undertaking the law is Dangerous Driving.
You show me a case where someone has been convicted of dangerous driving solely on the evidence of having "undertaken" and I won't require you to retract that 100% horse poop statement. 🙂
Alright, might have got a little overexcited at 140
Not like the police to exaggerate!
If it was GMP anyone remember X Cars on BBC 1 around 1996 ?www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuWhmrtBLI4
That's the one absolute classic 😀
Proper Bobbies
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The three grids line - start on the nearside close in, drift to the centre, drift back to the nearside at your exit. Done properly on an empty road you feel the tyres cross three grids or drains on the way through, NS, OS, NS.
Done badly on a busy road you carve up someone else to your right.
And no doubt if any of the previous posters were to be pulled for a slight transgression or momentary lapse (the kind that we're all prone to from time to time), instead of being nuked from orbit as we 'should' be, they'd merely expect the Copper to show some 'common sense' and let them on their way with a warning. Because that would be all that was really required etc etc 🙄
There was the bloke who tailgated me several times on my drive to work. Well he did when I took the Fiesta, but not if I took a bigger car, he stayed well back then. And the man who did the using the right turn lane as an overtaking lane stunt every morning.
I think it's quite common for some to have a [i]momentary lapse[/i], same time same place, on their commute. Nothing smaller than a 50-cal, I say.






