[Closed] I might be about to buy an Audi.......

My original quote from Audi was for a 1.8 Petrol A6, as that was the one that jumped out a great deal on Lings (seems a good 1 stop shop for comparisipons) but with the tech pack and tow bar it will be a factory build so 12-14 weeks.
I’m waiting for prices for a Tdi and a Quattro. If they have one in stock then it will be 2 weeks and they will allow me to fit an aftermarket tow bar.

@dan I am a bit old school but 1.8 petrol in a big car like an A6 I struggle to think its enough. I noticed when playing with configurator app (excellent) that most quattros are the big diesel engines

Carwow is good, my mate used it to get 12% off a Q7 - can play dealers off against each other

EDIT: also if the car is going to be facelifted why not have a search of demonstrators or 1-2yr old too ?

dantsw13 - Member

My original quote from Audi was for a 1.8 Petrol A6,

The current A6 looks like a lovely motor but over £18k sounds like an awful lot of money to drive a FWD 1.8 car for 4 years.

Will you get much in the way of benefits over other brands at this level, other than the brands percieved status if that kind of thing bothers you?

Jambalaya - I looked into PCP deals on used approved - they are more than new cars!

Crank rider, it’s 190 BHP, so plenty powerful. The 2.0Tdi is £800 more, but an Audi Finance calculation shows residuals £900 higher, so will prob go with the diesel, maybe a Quattro if I can get a good deal.

I have looked at the other competition and they are more expensive as Audi finance is so good, residuals high, and over 10k off list price! Originally I was looking at Skoda. This is cheaper than anequivalently equipped superb. An Octavia scout is the same price, so that is my decision. The residual value of the scout is only £6k after 4y/80k miles so buying that at the end is a good option!

dantsw13 - I was in similar place this time last year. I narrowed it down to Superb Estate SEL 4x4 and A6 Avant Quattro, both with the diesel 190 auto. Both on 4yr PCP with 20k miles so per annum and £1500 deposit from me. The Audi worked out at £45 a month less so went for that. Residuals and Audi contribution made it a no brainier.

Do you mind me asking who through and what the monthly payments were?

Sorry for the quiz, but are you happy with it?

Did you get the SE exec version?

Did you bother with the tech pack?

How is the 190 Tdi?

Thanks.

dantsw13 - I got prices from CarWow and then got Glasgow Audi to nearly match. I am £404 a month. I went for SE which is great, much nicer ride than the Sport. I didn’t add on any extras. Engine is good, more nippy than the 520d Tourer it replaced and a nicer interior.

Overall delighted with it. It’s just passed 17k mikes and I replaced the original tyres a few weeks ago with CrossClimates. We currently have about 5 inches of snow here in south Lanarkshire and it just keeps going 😀

Orange of some sort on order too OP?

dantsw13 - how much deposit on the deal that you've got. I'm looking at carwow now so hopefully I can get something similar. Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks Ian.

Fatmax - £1000. Carwow works really well. My best offer was from Bexley Audi with just over £10k off list for a finance deal.

Sandwich, sorry, I’m a Santa Cruz boy! (2011 Heckler frame bought second hand in the USA, built up with bombers for my Alps Bike) and a Ti Hardtail.

I tried one last Septembe, I am 6 foot 1 and even with seat at it lowest point I was catching my head on the grab handle .

There is something wrong with design of this it feel clostofobick
like a Volvo v40

So I just walked away, so Try it out first, it might
Fit you if you you are like small say petite and under 5 foot 8

Criminal for what should be a large European car.

Mind you I take my car allowance 425 pm and as my company makes us use lex over 4 years I always go into garage thinking ok so this is going to cost me 20k, and then I just hand the car and no equity.

So what I do is use my allowance to pay off a 10k loan in years and have a car worth 6k paid for at the end

I am currently doing this with a discovery 3, but I do pop into dealers a couple of times a year to see what I could have.

I am done with new cars until I can get electric one that competes with a Tesla

Well I’m 5’11” and had no issues sitting in one yesterday.

I’m a touch taller than you fotorat and there is stacks of space above my head, maybe 5 or 6 inches I’d say. And the grab handle is folded up into the roof so I don’t think I could hit it with my head if I tried. It feels pretty big inside to me, and I’ve had a fair few large cars over the years.

Genuine question, are you sure it wasn’t an A4? They do look the same, but the A4 is much smaller.

The A6 is about to be replaced ( new model about to be release in Germany) ... hence Audi are trying to shift them.
Unfortunately for all of us with it as a choice of company car, you get taxed on the list price, not what it costs the leasing company... and boy are they pushing them ...

and a Drive Like A Dick button.

Well I’m 5’11” and had no issues sitting in one yesterday.

Every time I think I’d like an Audi, Mercedes or bmw I read the local Facebook pages and burglary always seems rife with these cars in the driveway.. stolen to order ?

Definately puts me off ,

whatyadoinsucka - Member
Every time I think I’d like an Audi, Mercedes or bmw I read the local Facebook pages and burglary always seems rife with these cars in the driveway.. stolen to order ?

Definately puts me off ,

It might put me off an S3 or RS model but I wouldn't worry too much about cars like the A6, I think they are lovely cars but thieves are generally targeting the 'faster' models, apparently to use in other crimes - same with BMW's

That's not to say all models are not nicked as a scirocco was stolen from a friend on Facebook a few days ago, big standard 14 plate, keys taken from the house - so I think the best think to do is be aware of it, take precautions but not worry too much with more 'normal' models - depends on your area a lot too.

Thanks @crankrider, area is ok, just no police presence in west Yorkshire, it seems everyone’s having a patio door or side door lock burnout and thief’s hunting for car keys, it only seems to happen to brand new or the newish German brands. Guess they are going to Bradford for breaking and/or getting duplicate reg plates put on copied from legal cars

Why would anyone choose to rent a car over 4 years? Out of warranty and an MOT to pay for.

Renting is all about fixed cost no risk. There is a lot of increased risk over 4 yrs

I’d certainly look at carwow. I was looking at a boring mid spec, basic 150hp Superb Estate & had some amazing deals come through. Best being £17.5k after two dealers played off against each other.
(I know, but I’ve zero interest in cars other than being nice to drive & spacious).

Funky dunk - only pay a deposit every 4 yrs instead of 3. £250 extended warranty so not an issue. Lower monthly payments.

So , if you are renting a new car and its stolen off your drive never to be seen again..
You have paid a hefty up front deposit , say £4000
You have insured it F/Comp I guess , and lest say paid 3mths worth of payments , so you are £5000 in so far.
The insurance company pay up for a total loss , to whom.- Audi? who still own the car as you are renting it long term? or The supplier who you leased through?
Either way , surely the leasee does not get £5000 back ? Or do the insurance co split the payments pro rata? But I cant see how that works. 3 months rental out of 24 does that entitle you to 1/8 of the payout
Then your personal premiums go up ( alot )

Rone - who was that through? Mileage?

Local Skoda dealer matched Simpsons deal and happy to rejig deposit right down.

The price also dropped while I had ordered it from a 1000 deposit to 300 and the dealer allowed me to re-order at lower cost.

Horton's of Lincoln.

8000 miles pa. But only 3ppm charge per year.

Rone keep us up to date, photos of bike in the back / seats out etc 🙂

@funk a 4yo car will have no material MOT costs imho

@single that worry is what gap insurance is for

Bikes will generally be going on the roof. And annoyingly they've changed the roof rack system. Yeti was fantastic , had definite bolts you clamped on to rather than just gripping the roof rails. It made it very quick to take apart.

Looks like the Karoq is back to generic grips.

I will put some pics up though if people find useful . Build date is 22nd Jan.

Just out of interest we've both been offered our current yetis for purchase after our 2 years lease.

Good prices for low mileage well looked after cars with 1 year warranty still on.

1.2 Yeti SEL DSG 15500 miles for 13300.

1.4 TSI manual L&K 4x4 14500 miles for 15500.

Both leather and the L&K has all manor of gizmos (pan roof) that you don't use but heated front window is great.

So dropping from lease to purchase would've been much cheaper than buying. Having said all that it's the first time I've been offered for sale.

I wish Skoda would leave glossy plastics alone though. They look gash and scratch so easy.

The Octavia scout Im interested has a residual of £6700 after 4 yrs/80000miles. Still a bargain I think.

I drove one of those as well. Coming straight from a Yeti, the visibility didn't feel that great but I don't think it was any worse than the A6 or other cars I tried afterwards. We had the 2.0D with DSG for a test and again I've had been happy to drive that lots of miles.

I decided to wait for the Koraq before making a decision, but ended up buying something else entirely when the Koraq looked like it was going to take me way beyond the end of the Yeti lease deal and it was already close to the mileage.

Incidentally we found out this time on our Vag lease we can extend it by 3 months informally.

Really helpful.

dantsw13 - Member
The Octavia scout Im interested

Slightly OT, but I wa having a conversation with a rich italian friend the other day. He has two Maserati's, a large Merc SUV, wears a Panerei watch and has a big house in Norfolk. If you ask what his job is, he says, "ya know a bit of this and a bit of that..." 😯

Anyway, talking of flash cars he is of the opinion that today's Reps have it all wrong. Company cars used for pounding the motorways used to be perks in the 90's /early 00's and of course the flasher more premium car you had was a sign of success. His view i that still exists yet is less common now as company tend toward the best fleet deal rather than finding a brand material display for the individual, so he asks - why is it the the everyday man now feels as thought they need to replicate that materialism with their own money? He has a strong view that - using me as an example - my car would be totally utilitarian and focus on what I do - motorway driving with a bit of bike lugging and as its principally for work, should be as cheap as possible not to the point of being a nightmare to own of course. He feels the money should go to the family car, and that should be the place we all feel comfortable and warm in.

So his advice was, "Just find a ****ing skoda pcp deal, abuse it and swap it until the job changes". Another alternative was akin to the 5k Audi being discussed in the Diesel thread. Although above needs to be accompanied by hand waving and histrionics to make total sense of course.

Although I had decided on getting a loan for my 120d after the pcp ends, it'll be a very similar amount to the Simpsons Skoda PCP. The difference is the deposit need on the latter...

Anyway, maybe a slighted different view.

No that makes a lot of sense. I’m fighting between two requirements.

1. Country living with kids & 2 dogs. Mud & bumpy roads.

2. Commuting to Heathrow/Gatwick more regularly with a promotion at work.

1.says Octavia scout or Karoq.
2. Says A6 estate.

Prices similar for both.

Anybody driving one of the smaller engined Karoq’s yet?

After seeing this thread I ventured on to carwow. 10k off a brand new 36k A6 S-Line on PCP pricked my interest!

Although I had decided on getting a loan for my 120d after the pcp ends, it'll be a very similar amount to the Simpsons Skoda PCP. The difference is the deposit need on the latter...

Yeah so basically ignoring your mates advice mostly... Yet others should heed it ?

Yeah so basically ignoring your mates advice mostly... Yet others should heed it ?

Eh?

The difference is the deposit need on the latter...

...means I'll be keeping the BM, I'm not sure what your point is. The text was his opinion nothing more.

Well I dunno you brought it up......my mate says xyz...how ever I'll be doing something else. The original post was a bit of a non Informational post in the first place.

I guess it's almost exactly what I say when people say they want to change their car.....unless it's a bucket keeping the car you know is usually the cheaper safer bet.

Lets see what offers the dealer can come up with today. Factory build at 16 weeks currently.

My thoughts: all cars will be 4yrs, 1k deposit, 20000 miles/yr

basic A6Avant SE with tech pack 190HP Petrol or diesel is 366/month

Tempted by a Quattro version, will pay £400, but not much more.

A6 Allroad - deals not as good.

Quite like A4 Allroad too - Lings has one at £404, so if Audi can match I’m interested.

Any Audi I think I will want the tech pack.

Octavia scout is £360

Karoq SE-L 4wd is £347

With my PX (XC90) what do you reckon? Online PX quotes £16-17k. Independant dealers for similar age/mileage are £18k.
It has 2 scratched (not damaged) front panels, otherwise good nick, and I can’t find one key.

Let’s play guess the PX quote?

@dan if you are comparing Audi A6 to Karoq imho you need to look at Edition, this is where we came “unstuck” with the Skoda, a 1.5 tsi edition with only 2wd was £29k list, even with some discount that buys a lot of used BMW X1/GLA AMG or Q2/3 ... or its a payup lf £5k to get to a decent spec new car from BMW, Merc or Audi

Jamba - the problem with Editions - much like many brands these days- is the infatuation with big wheels/ thinner tyres giving a harsh ride on rough rural roads.

I’m struggling to see past the value in the A6 at the moment. £366/m for the Petrol or £390 for the Tdi. I’ve worked out the Tdi will save me £30/month in fuel bills, so overall the costs are the same. Personal choice - 2 190 HP engines. I might get the petrol as I do lots of school/station runs.

Agreed. My wife has a serious neck injury and many cars we’ve driven have been discounted due to ride and we may emd up downgrading wheels for a given trim level (also no all season tyre options on the lower profile tyres)

Walked past a newish A6 Avant today and thought of you 🙂

I have fond memories of my car as it was so comfortable and capable and we went on many memorable road trips with it inc 4 lads down to Marseilles for REC QF weekend in 2007, numerous Alps trips summer and winter, driving through a blizzard at 1800m over the Jura

So. The 1.8petrol & 2.0diesel. Both auto, both 190HP.

PCP on the diesel is £40/month more. The diesel will save me £40/ month based on manufacturers figures ( I know they are fiction, but imagine both out by similar%).

Which would STW choose?

20000 miles/ year. Daily 1h15 commute by B roads. Local school runs/dog walks & the odd Alps trip.

I'd buy the 3.0 diesel 😁

Me too, but it puts the monthly payments from £366 to £623!!

I'm on my second C7 A6, they really are a great family car. I didn't really have any intentions of getting a new one but they really are giving them away at the minute. Over christmas I changed to a 2.0l Avant black edition. The only sting in the tail for me was the road tax as the list price was over 40k it's costing me £472 a year...... so be careful which model you go for if you don't want to be raped for road tax 🙁