"Philips was the only entrant for the competition and its design underwent 18 months of testing before being declared a winner."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17788178
They'll have to take my stockpile of incandescents out of my cold, dead, fingers...
They'll have to take my stockpile of incandescents out of my cold, dead, fingers...
Why dude? They're only lamps, no need to die for them.
It's the principle that matters.
i bought some energy saving bulbs on saturday
20 quid for 4 - as bright as my incandecences in other rooms - will be replacing them in time too
people experiance of energy savers and their opinions are formed on the freebees or cheap supermarket bulbs that are frankly terrible - take ages to heat up to a dim glow.
wont be buying a 60 quid one though !
I'd say the banning of GLS lamps is quite a principled one personally.
It's the principle that matters.
What - you are attached to an outdated and inefficient technology? Do you ride rigid with canti brakes as well?
I'm attached to being able to see what I'm doing, especially as I have a visual impairment. And I quite like the idea of being able to make my own decisions about my life, rather than have a mistaken 'choice' foisted upon me.
I reckon Trout(e) could have beaten them.
so much misplaced [s]militantism[/s] [s]militism[/s] seething anger. Not really a big issue is it?I'm attached to being able to see what I'm doing, especially as I have a visual impairment. And I quite like the idea of being able to make my own decisions about my life, rather than have a mistaken 'choice' foisted upon me.
It's the principle that matters.
What else do you have stockpiled? Leaded paint? Leaded petrol? DDT pesticide?
Don't be such a pillock. Why on earth should you be allowed to burn up four times the energy to produce THE SAME AMOUNT OF LIGHT? You do know that energy is in limited supply don't you?
You do know that energy is in limited supply don't you?
as is tungsten, if supply of incandescents hadn't been throttled the tungsten would run out anyway in the not too distant future. And I happen to have quite an appetite for tungsten carbide in my line of work so I'd be quite a appreciative if people stopped squandering it on lightbulbs
The banning of filament incandescent lamps is as most government initiatives flawed.
Modern energy saving lamps (CFLs) contain mercury which the EU now turn a blind eye to as reduce carbon just poison our rivers and streams.
They state
Clean-up of the debris of a broken CFL has been described as complicated, requiring, for example, the removal of the mercury droplets with adhesive tape and their disposal as special waste. This again points to the relevance of the risk caused by the
breakage of a CFL in a consumer's home.Additionally in the same document it discusses expsore to mercury and possible effects and pretty much casts them aside.
Now if I brok a CFL I doubt I could find the few mg of mercury from it so could potentially inhale it. Equally if I did find it I doubt that I would follow the correct waste dispoal methodology.
Same with the car scrappage scheme. Environmentally your robbing Peter to pay Paul. Lower carbon is todays band wagon, a great deal has been done already to reduce carbon output. But producing heavy metal polution and its environmental impact is surely not the right way to go.
You can see some of the comments from the EU never mind tree huggers of which I am not one but the Government would rather us have FLCs (funny looking kids) with a low carbon footprint.
I'm attached to being able to see what I'm doing, especially as I have a visual impairment.
A 30w CF bulb kicks out 1900 lumens, more than a 150w trad bulb
And I quite like the idea of being able to make my own decisions about my life
Evidently, some people should not be left to all of those decisions without help
a mistaken 'choice' foisted upon me.
Do you also rue the day we went all 'unleaded' with our petrol as well?
Pingu, bloody hell. All fluorescent tubes are like that too I presume. LEds OK or do they have other dodgy things inside aswell?
Shocka!The banning of filament incandescent lamps is as most government initiatives flawed.
Anyone know where i can get 'daylight' energy savers? I'm quite fond of my my normal daylight bulbs.
LEds OK or do they have other dodgy things inside as well?
Yep, but don't, whatever you do consider what's inside a filament bulb!
yes they are ok or yes they have scary corrosive innards? (much like me on saturday night)*
I wasn't defending filaments BTW
*sorry
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest-lasting_light_bulbs ]Hmmm so many questions[/url]
Why do people care?
Why does the GBoR care?
Why is there a page devoted to it?
why did I read it?
why did I post it?
Modern energy saving lamps (CFLs) contain mercury
According to Wikipedia, the amount of mercury in the CFLs is less than the amount released by the extra coal that has to be burned for incandescents.
AFAIK CFLs are the same as fluorescent tubes, I didn't hear people whining about those these last 30 years.
Tootall, did I see you riding your sultan through Emersons Grn yesterday?
The problem with 30W CFLs is they're flipping expensive and last no where near their quoted 8000 hours. I'm stockpiling 60W incandescents in the attack right now. Wish I'd had the forethought to do the same with 100Ws.
It's all about the LEDs.
I reckon the stated life of current energy saving bulbs is pretty much bang on - just that they don't have to be on all that time to die at the 8-10,000 hour mark
I tried an led one - was shit
much too directional for a normal room light and not that bright, though I'm sure they'll improve in time