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Wifes comnent ^^^ as she just turned off bbc1 cause Beverly knight was murdering a song by wavering and adding notes where there wasn't any before.

What is it with the need to wail and waver notes when the author wrote just a single note to sing ?

I must be getting old.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 9:10 pm
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i thought she sang it well..........and she is nice too


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 9:12 pm
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A bug bear of mine too OP. Sing the note, not all around it.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 9:17 pm
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I blame Whitney. She started the hideous trend.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 9:19 pm
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I thought it was a pretty good Whitney impersonation. Wavering and wailing included.

Hateful song, but that's a different matter.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 9:31 pm
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It gets boring if they do it from the first bar.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 10:08 pm
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interpretation, it's what it's called not copying, if I wanted to hear someone sing a song as it was originally written I'd get the CD.
Also shock horror not everyone likes everything


 
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Posted : 14/11/2016 10:45 pm
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interpretation, it's what it's called not copying, if I wanted to hear someone sing a song as it was originally written I'd get the CD.
Also shock horror not everyone likes everything

No, it's almost slavishly following a trend in over-embellishing a song in order to give the impression that the singer is getting very emotionally involved with the song, a habit that goes back to gospel singing, and which has sadly infected far too much of what passes for soul/r'n'b these days.
It is copying, it's far from original, and it ruins good songs in the same way that 'fret-****' guitar solos do in rock music.
And no, I don't like it, Marvin Gaye, Aretha, Tammy Tyrell and many others didn't need to show off to convey emotion, a [i]good[/i] singer should be able to reduce the listener to tears in the simplest way possible, by just singing the words and letting their own emotion filter through.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 11:03 pm
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There are plenty of ways to cover a song without simply over-egging the previous over-egged cover. But figuring out how to do that requires finding the right song and coming up with a new way to deliver the content.

I swear some of these people just find a song they like and take it up to eleven. Or twelve, or previous limit + 1.


 
Posted : 14/11/2016 11:15 pm
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I blame Whitney. She started the hideous trend.

Petula Clark
Dame Shirly Bassey


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 12:17 am
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It's called melisma. I like it [i]sometimes[/i]...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17039208

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/oct/19/popandrock2


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 6:59 am
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interpretation

It's not interpretation. I'm with CountZero. A family member is an opera singer (and a rather well-respected one at that) who has also in her time sung a lot of jazz and she'd burst a blood vessel at the idea that interpretation meant not singing the notes as they were written.

Singing the notes is the baseline. If you can't sing the notes, or don't sing the notes, you're off topic. Go home. If you don't want to sing the song that someone else wrote, write your own song, don't claim to sing it and then sing all around the notes. Gah!


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 9:20 am
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I swear some of these people just find a song they like and take it up to eleven. Or twelve, or previous limit + 1.

Often its more of a case of the song being dull to start with rather than a favourite - such as being asked to sing America's scintillating foot-tapper of a National Anthem at the Superbowl.


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 9:44 am
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If you can't sing the notes, or don't sing the notes, you're off topic. Go home. If you don't want to sing the song that someone else wrote, write your own song, don't claim to sing it and then sing all around the notes. Gah!

Try telling that to David Bowie.. 😉

I think ^this^ sounds dreadful, by the way..


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 9:46 am
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Try telling that to David Bowie..

Based on that, someone should. It's terrible and I think adds weight to "my" point than anything else. Gilmour doesn't dick about with the song and Bowie hasn't done anything good for several decades anyway; absolutely no loss at all if he did just go home and stay there.


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 9:59 am
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Try telling that to David Bowie..

Based on that, someone should.

I think you need to sit down - I've got some bad news for you.

Its about Joe Cocker...


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 10:01 am
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I think you need to sit down - I've got some bad news for you.

Its about Joe Cocker...

LOL. Oh yeah, forgot he'd already gone.. Oh well, at least he won't be doing that to any more Pink Floyd songs.


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 10:08 am
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[i]Bowie hasn't done anything good for several decades [/i]

Do some studying of this picture
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/2016-1

[i]Oh yeah, forgot he'd already gone..[/i]

=Someone who's valuable opinion I shall be seeking out on music related threads.


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 10:08 am
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Do some studying of this picture

He stopped being any good long before he stopped being (my point was that for several decades his music was, broadly speaking, absolute shite, and he hasn't been dead for several decades, has he?). That's possibly the reason why I'd forgotten he wasn't around to massacre songs like that any more.


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 10:11 am
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Someone who's valuable opinion I shall be seeking out on music related threads.
I really don't mind what most people think about my opinions on most topics, but I'll admit to being curious as to why my opinion on music wouldn't matter or has less value because I can't remember which ones are dead and which ones aren't. Some you can't really tell anyway 🙂


 
Posted : 15/11/2016 10:14 am