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My mum got done for speeding and opted for the "speed awareness" course.
After the course she wished she had taken the 3 points and paid the £60 fine. She said they were treated like criminals (I suppose they were really) all day and it was dreadful.
great idea, think I'll book a track day at goodwood to drive at 36 mph FFS !!!!!
so you broke the speed limit and got caught. Well Suck it up. If you were slightly over the limit alcohol wise this'd be a very different thread.
[quote=Kevevs ]so you broke the speed limit and got caught. Well Suck it up. If you were slightly over the limit alcohol wise this'd be a very different thread.
At which point has the OP actually complained or whinged about being caught for speeding?
It's almost like kevevevevevs hasn't read my first post.
Surely not, though? Why would one comment on something they hadn't read yet?
. If you were slightly over the limit alcohol wise this'd be a very different thread.
I was actually leathered. So all things considered, getting just a speeding ticket was quite lucky.
ok, but you know how these threads go. might as well get one in before halftime. got to admit you're right Jamie. I guess i'm bored sorry. Just looks like a typical inflammatory stw thread. I'll go on the xbox, but now I'm curious I'll have to read the bloody thing...
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I tell them everything. As far as points and awareness courses go I would tell them everything they need to know as soon as possible (if the awareness course is something that can invalidate insurance).
Some will disagree and maybe tell them when renewal comes up but there's no way I'm paying £400+ a year for a car worth £200.. that's not even covered if I don't tell them the in's and out's of my convictions.
I'm not talking three points here and three points there for wee speeding offences. Having driven through the town where I work after my lunch break earlier (at the speed limit with a guy tailgating me as per usual) I managed to brake in time for a kid walking out from behind a bus. I wouldn't fancy challenging a death with insurance that's gone tits up over a measly £60 fine and an insurance hike of £0-£50ish quid.
Not worth it.
Edit: I wonder how much insurance firms make out of doing their homework (reading their smallprint and sending people out to check the cars involved with accidents for modifications etc)so they can dismiss claims.. opposed to how much they make trying to keep old customers and get new customers on board.
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I'm always of the mind if you're going to speed than do it properly,36 in a 30 is pretty pathetic tbh mate........
60.39 in a 30 🙁
Jamie,
Are you with Admiral?
Unless the insurers ask specifically, I wouldn't introduce it into the conversation. It's not a conviction - it's education, as an alternative to prosecution. Once you have successfully completed the course, no further action will be taken and you will have no record of this on your licence.
EDIT - PS. You've brought shame on yourself, your family and the forum.
Nobody in his family know about it yet :O)
Recently 39 in a 40, dual road into Brum, my fault completely, thought wrongly the limit was 40
Anyway now have 3 points on my licence after 20+ of driving.
Told my insurance company, was told to expect a increase in my insurance next year of £80 on my premium.
Expensive lesson that will make sure in the future I pay more attention.
well, if you were speeding and pissed up you got away very lightly! suck it up!
I did one 18 months back. It was a triple act of condecending plastic plods who thought they were judge jury and executioner. I really should have taken the points.
...and yes, it was more punishment than rehabilitation!
So far I am erring towards the points 8)
...oh, and sucking it up of course.
So it turns out the OP was speeding, pissed out of his mind, had no insurance, tax or mot, and was driving a written off car on a moped license. I have it on good authority he's rumored to be a pediatrician to boot.
Martha, polish the pitchfork, light the flaming torches and gather the rest of the mob - once the noose is out of the tumble drier we've got some justice to administer.
I also had a [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/i-had-the-need-for-speed-sadly-the-police-disagreed-36-in-a-30-content?replies=62#post-4425501 ]dead lesbian mexican in the boo[/url]t, Rogg.
Full disclosure, and all that.
Sorry, I'm so full of righteous indignation I'm finding it hard to keep up.
how do they write up a dead lesbian in the boot?
In my experience the course was tedious and dull. It did however stop me getting three points on my licence so I did the course.
The course I attended was run by the AA and some of the preaching would put even a few of the STW big hitters to shame. Don't argue with them, they don't like it.
Sorry, but I learned nothing. I did get coffee and biscuits and a nice sit down for four hours though. Which was nice.
Can anyone imagine TJ on the course? He's have them going apoplectic with his arguing 😉
I got done for 81 on the motorway, offered the course and found it okay actually. I expected what a few have posted, self righteousness, smugness, perhaps some videos or pictures of crashes, that sort of thing.
However, was nothing of the sort. Loads of information about cars, and driving, best practice, the law and since on. The guy seemed to get that a lot of the people there were only there to avoid points. His view was, you're here, so you might as well listen, otherwise you've wasted a day and £90.
Can anyone imagine TJ on the course? He's have them going apoplectic with his arguing
I miss TJ...
Did one. Interesting and good. Included an hour with an advanced driving instructor on the road. Amazing the number of people who think the NSL on roads for cars is 50mph. And I managed to claim it against tax as education. Asked my insurers, they didn't care.
I'm just bit disappointed in the OP. 🙁
But I forgive you. 🙂
If you don't decalre to insurance, you may as well be uninsured.
Why is it nobody ever mentions the most significant downside to going on a course - the need to take a day off work (unless you're very lucky with the location relative to where you work, so you only need to take a half day)? Are holidays not valuable to you lot? Personally last time I got done (for 57 in a 50 - I don't speed in 30 limits - so I'm sure all the education about kids stepping in the road in front of me would have been [b]really[/b] useful) it was possible for me to buy extra days holiday at a quite reasonable rate, and the cost of taking a day's holiday to go on a course would have made it a lot more expensive than taking the points.
I assumed it was done at the weekend?
you are now no longer my hero.
36 in a 30
what if an orphanage had stepped out in front of you?
imagine how upset the parents would be!
imagine how upset the parents would be!
Who cares? I am a speed addled maniac who stops at nothing!
....well possibly zebra crossings, traffic lights, give way signs, roundabouts, lollipop ladies, dogs....
I notice everyone is going easy on Jamie. Did no one else just think that this whole speeding thing is just a feeble cover for being a casual racist?
I did, I hate casual racists, if you're going to be racist the least you can do is wear a coat and tie.
I got flashed at 36 in Grenoside, very relieved to find they sent me a letter saying I was naughty boy and should go home and think about what I'd done (which I'd already done) and no more... phew...
Jamie's sin was not unusual, my town and village have a mix of 30 and 20 zones and I'm very surprised there aren't more accidents as its also a mix of blind narrow corners and the limits may as well not exist.
The AA course I did a couple of years ago, was pretty good.
They got the "you're here because you've been naughty" bit out the way in the first 5 minutes and from then on in it was a combination of education and discussion, it covered useful things other than speeding as well.
If you can get the time off work, I'd suggest the course.
SM
I did one of the AA courses a few months ago - also did it on a Sunday morning so didn't need time off work. I thought that the course was alright, guess it comes down to person/people taking it. The guy who was taking the course I went on wasn't preachy and at least tried to make it interesting. Some of it was pretty informative.
Scariest bit was the knowledge/attention span of some of the other people in there!
I assumed it was done at the weekend?
Nope I had a few days to choose from and none were weekends. Might as well do the course, I found it quite useful and not too patronising despite the guy being a bit of a smug prick.
Tj on one of these courses, I could see it lasting 36 hours with all the debating!
I did a course a few months back.
It wasn't as bad as I was expecting, quite well done really. But if you're coming away thinking "wow, that was really informative and I learned a lot" then you probably should be having a good long think about public transport. Which, sadly, was probably a large percentage of the room.
Some of the things the other attendees came out with was comedy gold. One lad admitted that he didn't know any road signs at all; he was told when learning that the signs questioned on the test were always the same ones, so he learned those half dozen and didn't bother with the rest.
I did the course. Interestingly it was run by a foreign lady, Mexican I think; turns out she was a lesbian. Kept in touch for a while afterwards then she just suddenly stopped answering my texts or emails. Never did find out what happened to her.
Sorry, what was the original question..?
Been on a few Courses as an Observer and always it seemed that 2 types of people attended, the ones who would listen and absorb some infomation and the ones who didnt give a ....
Can generally guess what they are going to be like when they pull up in the car park.
I would say defo tell your insurance no matter what, and at least enjoy the course. There will be some info to take away, and they could even save you money on fuel by looking ahead and planning more.
The best or most scary bit will be the answers from the other people...."well you dont check your speedo when youve passed your test do ya" is one what will stay with me forever.
It wasn't as bad as I was expecting, quite well done really. But if you're coming away thinking "wow, that was really informative and I learned a lot" then you probably should be having a good long think about public transport. Which, sadly, was probably a large percentage of the room.
There's some divvies in there, it's true. If anything you'll come out with a glow of smugness around you. But the course I was on was full of interesting stuff all the same.
One example that I remember was a story about a car accident. Aside from the speeding car approaching from behind, there were two things which led to the driver living out the rest of his days in a wheel chair: As he waited to turn right off the main road just out of sight over the brow of a hill, he turned his wheels, ready to go. Because of this when he was hit from behind he was pushed into the oncoming traffic. And on impact his toolbox came through the back seats and almost went through him, breaking his spine.
The wheel thing I may or may not have done previously on a sub-conscious level. I don't know, it's just not something I ever thought about. But every time I wait to turn right now the wheels are straight, I make sure of that.
And neither would I have thought of putting the seat belts on in the rear despite having no passengers - which if the guy in the above story had done, he probably would have walked away.
The course was full of little nuggets like that, and so I can say it had a positive influence on me.
I was also caught speeding having just entered a 30 zone on a Sunday afternoon, outside of a school - a road I would normally crawl round at 20mph during the week. So partially felt a bit miffed with myself for speeding the one day there was a camera there, and partially a bit miffed that they put a camera there the one day no one's about. So it was interesting to learn too that as many kids are knocked over and killed outside of schools on a weekend as there are through the week. I walked out thinking, you know what, that's a fair cop, and have had a much greater appreciation for the speed limits since.
I suppose it depends on who you get, and I guess there might even be different course providers, different material, etc, but the one I done was a stark contrast to the patronising letter I got from the Police beforehand telling me that I'd been a very naughty boy.
I did the course. Interestingly it was run by a foreign lady, Mexican I think; turns out she was a lesbian. Kept in touch for a while afterwards then she just suddenly stopped answering my texts or emails. Never did find out what happened to her.
Sorry, what was the original question..?
Hmmm.
*puts psling's name on list marked 'they know too much*
Think I might be having a few points coming my way. I came off the M1 in Luton as I approached some lights about 400m away I noticed a mobile camera. Not sure if I was in a 30 or 40.
Plus I've got 6 points for driving an uninsured vehicle from when I had three vehicles on my company. The one I took out hadn't been automatically insured like the other two. And my own car was insured. Police said they would have let it go if a special hadn't called it in
Due a ban?
What speed were you doing?
Not sure
Came off the M1, Hit about 1/4 mile of dual carriageway. Took a left at a roundabout then was slowing for the lights. The copper was at the lights.
I didn't see any speed signs the entire length of the road and it became residential further on so I'm assuming it's a 30. The speed sign must be at the exit of the roundabout?
We'll see.
I was under 40
Can you find the location on google maps? You might be able to.spot the speed limit signs.