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Posted : 18/06/2012 10:06 am
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What happens when 2 weeks later they've lost no more and a further 2 weeks later they're back where they've started?

The diet's failed.

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(edited to remove the question mark!)


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:06 am
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about 2-3 times a year.
it's always been between 65.5-67kg depending on how much cycling.
it actually drops then raises when i have the time to get back on the bike as the tiny bit of fat goes quickly then the muscle takes a bit longer to add.
i'm stick thin though so i can go to another hole on my belt tighter but have actually put on weight as muscle is denser than fat.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:06 am
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I reckon that this is extremely rare although theoretically correct. Gaining muscle is pretty flipping hard.

I dunno, I reckon gaining muscle must be a lot easier for someone who's quite fat but does some reasonably hard physical exercise - hence why body builders etc bulk up first. I guess lots of fatties say this but I think I do have quite a lot of muscle as well as all the lard - I really don't think you'd guess I weigh 17.5 stone from looking at me.

I went from around size 40" waist to around 34" once and barely lost any weight at all, maybe half a stone.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:07 am
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3lb crap LOL


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:07 am
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Before and after dump!

Watch myself anyway for medical records but noticed I've put on 1/2 stone in last 5 weeks thanks to a whole load of cycling.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:09 am
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I guess lots of fatties say this but I think I do have quite a lot of muscle as well as all the lard

Lard is heavy - you (we) need extra muscles to carry it!

If you strapped 20kg of weights on to a skinny person and made them wear it every day then they'd soon get more muscles too ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:11 am
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hence why body builders etc bulk up first.

Isn't that to ensure they're getting at least enough calories?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:11 am
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Never weigh myself.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:11 am
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I generally don't weigh myself. I go on how my clothes feel on me - if they are tight, I know I'm a bit porky and need to sort it out!


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:15 am
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As long as the overall trend is down, you're losing weight....

Not if that "trend" is based on one weihing per week / fortnight / month.

The differences could just be sampling variance, or natural bodyweight variance, and nothing to do with overall change.

I do not weigh daily to know how heavy I am. I weigh daily to build up a dataset that provides a good baseline


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:15 am
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Before every ride so that Endomondo gets the calorie calculation correct.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:16 am
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The differences could just be sampling variance, or natural bodyweight variance, and nothing to do with overall change.

And how would a more frequent weighing interval iron out that variance?
To be satisfied someone is losing weight, I'd want to see a progressive/sustained weight loss over a prolonged period of time.

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Posted : 18/06/2012 10:20 am
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What rkk01 said.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:21 am
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Everyday at the same time.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:22 am
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Everyday wiegh-in and body fat measurement (using DXA) every month ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:25 am
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And how would a more frequent weighing interval iron out that variance?

Have you ever plotted a graph or are you just being argumentative?

To be satisfied someone is losing weigh, I'd want to see a progressive/sustained weight loss over a prolonged period of time.

If you only weigh them every, say, two weeks how would you know if their weight loss, or lack of, is actually dehydration or extra retained water?

The more data points you have the more accurate your average reading.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:26 am
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Before every ride so that Endomondo gets the calorie calculation correct.

That's a seriously dubious calorie calculation anyway, unless you have a heart rate monitor and the latest version of the Endomondo client on Android (which is the only one with the new method at the mo).

https://getsatisfaction.com/endomondo/topics/how_are_the_calories_burned_calculated
https://getsatisfaction.com/endomondo/topics/how_are_the_calories_burned_calculated_a_new_method


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:28 am
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PhilW - I lost 4 lb on Friday night by eating a chinese meal, 2 bags of chocolate popcorn and drinking a lot of beer. If I can just think of a catchy name I'm going to start a diet craze.

I think DrP should be ignored for asking how having more data helps reduce sampling error.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:29 am
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Atm I weigh myself most mornings (and if I'm being honest, most evenings before going to bed too... ๐Ÿ˜ณ )

Started when I was really pretty fat and reinforced by starting the idiet and seeing an almost daily drop for the first fortnight. I find the fluctuations quite interesting.

But I don't gaze at myself in the mirror... ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:30 am
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Every Saturday or Sunday morning. Then I write it on the calendar. It's encouraging to see the weightloss from the start of the year


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:31 am
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Muscle weighs more than fat, so someone who is overweight can completely change their physique, lose fat and gain muscle and still weigh exactly the same.

A kilo of fat weighs [i]exactly[/i] the same as a kilo of muscle ๐Ÿ™‚

I suspect a lot of the weight people put on when increasing exercise is probably water, rather than muscle. Does the body react to exercise by storing more glycogen? And every gram of glycogen stored needs 4g of water?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:32 am
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I think DrP should be ignored for asking how having more data helps reduce sampling error.

I think MrP should be ignored for asking how having more data helps reduce sampling error.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

Unless, of course, the "Dr" bit is for a non-medical or non-scientific PhD...!


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:33 am
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A kilo of fat weighs exactly the same as a kilo of muscle

But how much does a kilo of feathers weigh?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:33 am
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If you only weigh them every, say, two weeks how would you know if their weight loss, or lack of, is actually dehydration or extra retained water?

The same can be said (and is likely to be more pronounced) for making daily measurements. The day to day [b]natural[/b] variability in a person's weight make 'daily weigh ins' for the purpose of clinical weight loss 'not so useful'.

I'm also aware that the greater number of data points can make more accurate graphs, but for [b]this[/b] purpose, it frequently proves to disappoint or over-exaggerate the actual effect (or lack of) of ones perceived diet.

Plus... I didn't ask how having more data would iron it out - I asked how more frequent weighing would do!

DrP


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:34 am
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A kilo of fat weighs exactly the same as a kilo of muscle

But how much does a kilo of feathers weigh?

And what would happen if you put them both on a conveyor belt? Would the feathers take off?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:34 am
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I reckon that this is extremely rare although theoretically correct. Gaining muscle is pretty flipping hard.

Extremely rare amongst people who don't lift weights and eat tons of carbs. Gaining muscle is harder than losing fat, but it is not that tough to gain a stone of muscle. The trouble is, most people want to do it in 5 weeks rather than 5 months.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:35 am
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It wieghs 1kgf. Nothing weighs a kilo ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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GrahamS - that was merely a little jape.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:35 am
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A kilo of fat weighs exactly the same as a kilo of muscle

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But, as you (probably) know - that's not the point being made. A given volume of muscle weighs more than the same volume of fat


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:36 am
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I think DrP should be ignored for asking how having more data helps reduce sampling error.

If you are weighing yourself at the same time every day then you are potentially just reinforcing a sampling error.

You really need to weigh yourself every hour.
Or perhaps randomly throughout the day and night. ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:47 am
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I'm thinking of putting my office chair on a set of scales... I could live stream the results?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 10:49 am
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Now you're talking. You'd have to account for the weight of anything you pick up though.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:01 am
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But, as you (probably) know - that's not the point being made. A given volume of muscle weighs more than the same volume of fat

Hence the smilie in my post.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:02 am
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Nothing weighs a kilo

This is true, but a kilo of fat and a kilo of muscle both weigh the same, assuming no variation in gravity.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:03 am
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You'd have to account for the weight of anything you pick up though.

I could have a seperate set of digitial scales for this purpose next to my mouse?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:05 am
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I could live stream the results
To give me a greater perception of your real weight I'll only be looking every two weeks. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:18 am
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Do it Yeti. Here's a question you could answer

How does flatulence have an effect on your weight? If you do an absolutely massive fart, would you gain or lose weight?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:19 am
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I think I'll need some pretty precise scales for that.

Has anyone weighed themself whilst having a wee?

Phil.W proper LQTM (laugh quietly to myself) reading your last post.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:23 am
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I try to do it every morning then log it on an iphone app, I find it helps me loose weight. This morning I am 4 pounds heavier than friday morning, weighing myself motivates me to eat salad.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:25 am
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I find it helps me [b]loose[/b] weight

Ahem it's lose.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:30 am
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How does flatulence have an effect on your weight? If you do an absolutely massive fart, would you gain or lose weight?

Hmmm... methane is lighter than air - so presumably you get heavier as you expel it?

(obviously your actual mass won't change, unless it is a particularly moist one)


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:34 am
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as the methane's now in the atmosphere does the earth get heavier?


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:37 am
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A given volume of muscle weighs more than the same volume of fat

But... a variance in volume can be achieved without any variance in either weight or muscle/fat composition.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 11:42 am
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Nope the air gets lighter.


 
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